Kakashi&gaara vs orochimaru&kisame
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blazekev90
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its really not, as Manda has the ability to avoid most if not all of Garra's attacks by either speed or going underground. With this Manda could pop up from under Garra and wrap him or try n swallow him. (wrapping would be the best move)
You're suggestion an Animal summoning could defeat TheKazekage by himself? :|
Whileit's true manda could go underground there is more then one way to use a weapon.
-Gaara can fly
-He has Gold/Harder Sand to protect himself
-IF Manda did swallow him gaara would force sand through his eyeball,nostrils,inside
-Gaara could wrap manda around in sand (like sand coffin, not directly throw it at him like you think), Immobilize him, and crush him.
ItachiSan03
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blazekev90
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lol I didnt say he would own Garra (he is my second fave), but Manda's feats would be a problem. Garra can fly, but he'll have to move extremely fast to avoid Manda all together. If Manda was to wrap and try to crush Garra, but garra resorts to using to crush him Manda could shed to skin and avoid the attack. Also, Manda body was able to at least withstand Deiadara's ultimate attack
blazekev90
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he died from the damage eventually, but being that it was such an extreme explosion his body should have been in pieces. Manda was able to be in one piece and even talk after such an attack, in which seems more powerful than any on Garra's attacks.
Also, your thoughts @ Chris with all I've said??
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The way I see it:
Gaara vs Kisame: gaara could stay in the air out of kisames reach, that is a HUGE advantage for gaara as gaara has sand in his gourd that he can re-use while Kisame typically has to produce his own water using chakra this means gaara has a much greater arsenal and obviously much better suited for long distance. For those of you saying Kisames water makes gaaras sand useless you are wrong, heres why:
1. The second mizukage used an oil like substance against gaara instead of water, why not water if he is the mizukage and water is effective against sand?
2.gaara produces a much larger amount of sand at one time then Kisame does and it is tougher and faster, it's solid after all and clearly faster in fact deidara remarks on its speed
Kisame wouldn't or at least would have a hard time getting close enough to gaara to use samehada and if his shark bombs did reach him they wouldn't get through gaaras ultimate defense if deidaras bombs had such a hard time with it. Gaara wins against Kisame more times then naught mid to possibly high difficulty.
Gaara vs orochimaru: orochimaru has a much larger arsenal plus summons, he is also dry intelligent and sneaky and his snake sword could probably make it through a weakened or unprepared enough wall of sand. Gaara would have to be on his toes but at the same time his crushing abundance of sand and the speed in which he utilizes it would allow him to overcome many of orochimarus large (therefore easy target) summons. Manda would give him a hard time but gaara can make crushing sand walls bigger then manda and almost as quick, as quick or quicker then manda can move so he would kill manda. Orochimaru doesn't have any solid attacks like chidori, rasengan or bombs of some sort that could get through gaaras sand so he's in trouble their.
Although facing manda and oro at the same time, maybe even the hydra or other three headed snake that the sand or sound ninja summoned to attack the leaf (I think it's safe to assume orochimaru taught that to them) could prove too much for gaara so I say gaara is either greater than or equal oro.
Kakashi vs Kisame: The obvious first thought here is that samehada absorbs chakra and kakashi has very little chakra to begin with.....but kakashis Sharingan can see chakra therefore he would quickly figure out that Kisames sword steals it so being the genius that he is he would be able to avoid that or come up with a counter strategy. These two both have jutsus that are mostly on the same level more or less, kakashis lighting style cam travel through the water therefore kisames giant water sphere or even just the water he produced under Guys team early in shippuden wouldn't be wise, and kakashi has kamui which is deadly to anyone but all these moves take a lot of chakra so if Kisame could manage to block (via sharks, shark bombs or just water) Some of these attacks he could leave kakashi in a bad spot while as we know Kisame has a great deal of chakra himself.
Overall I have to say its a draw more times then not between them two.
Kakashi vs orochimaru: They are both very intelligent and cunning and they both have large arsenals but kakashis summons can't compare to oro's and oro can just shed his skin to dodge chidori or kamui therefore leaving kakashi weakened because of his lack of chakra. Overall oro wins against kakashi mid to high difficulty.
So if you look at it this way we see:
Gaara greater then orochimaru
Gaara greater then Kisame
Kakashi equal to Kisame
Kakashi less than orochimaru
This and considering team dirty tree would most likely work together better (despite oro and Kisame being in akatsuki together because they werent teamed up) and has cooler and overall craftier heads I say kakashi and gaara take this
Gaara vs Kisame: gaara could stay in the air out of kisames reach, that is a HUGE advantage for gaara as gaara has sand in his gourd that he can re-use while Kisame typically has to produce his own water using chakra this means gaara has a much greater arsenal and obviously much better suited for long distance. For those of you saying Kisames water makes gaaras sand useless you are wrong, heres why:
1. The second mizukage used an oil like substance against gaara instead of water, why not water if he is the mizukage and water is effective against sand?
2.gaara produces a much larger amount of sand at one time then Kisame does and it is tougher and faster, it's solid after all and clearly faster in fact deidara remarks on its speed
Kisame wouldn't or at least would have a hard time getting close enough to gaara to use samehada and if his shark bombs did reach him they wouldn't get through gaaras ultimate defense if deidaras bombs had such a hard time with it. Gaara wins against Kisame more times then naught mid to possibly high difficulty.
Gaara vs orochimaru: orochimaru has a much larger arsenal plus summons, he is also dry intelligent and sneaky and his snake sword could probably make it through a weakened or unprepared enough wall of sand. Gaara would have to be on his toes but at the same time his crushing abundance of sand and the speed in which he utilizes it would allow him to overcome many of orochimarus large (therefore easy target) summons. Manda would give him a hard time but gaara can make crushing sand walls bigger then manda and almost as quick, as quick or quicker then manda can move so he would kill manda. Orochimaru doesn't have any solid attacks like chidori, rasengan or bombs of some sort that could get through gaaras sand so he's in trouble their.
Although facing manda and oro at the same time, maybe even the hydra or other three headed snake that the sand or sound ninja summoned to attack the leaf (I think it's safe to assume orochimaru taught that to them) could prove too much for gaara so I say gaara is either greater than or equal oro.
Kakashi vs Kisame: The obvious first thought here is that samehada absorbs chakra and kakashi has very little chakra to begin with.....but kakashis Sharingan can see chakra therefore he would quickly figure out that Kisames sword steals it so being the genius that he is he would be able to avoid that or come up with a counter strategy. These two both have jutsus that are mostly on the same level more or less, kakashis lighting style cam travel through the water therefore kisames giant water sphere or even just the water he produced under Guys team early in shippuden wouldn't be wise, and kakashi has kamui which is deadly to anyone but all these moves take a lot of chakra so if Kisame could manage to block (via sharks, shark bombs or just water) Some of these attacks he could leave kakashi in a bad spot while as we know Kisame has a great deal of chakra himself.
Overall I have to say its a draw more times then not between them two.
Kakashi vs orochimaru: They are both very intelligent and cunning and they both have large arsenals but kakashis summons can't compare to oro's and oro can just shed his skin to dodge chidori or kamui therefore leaving kakashi weakened because of his lack of chakra. Overall oro wins against kakashi mid to high difficulty.
So if you look at it this way we see:
Gaara greater then orochimaru
Gaara greater then Kisame
Kakashi equal to Kisame
Kakashi less than orochimaru
This and considering team dirty tree would most likely work together better (despite oro and Kisame being in akatsuki together because they werent teamed up) and has cooler and overall craftier heads I say kakashi and gaara take this
blazekev90
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you do know that Orochimaru has attack prevention technique right?? Orochimaru only has to get and stab him with his sword like he did his father. While Garra has to prepare for an utlimate defense, his sand protection alone isnt strong enough to withstand his sword (that has been said to be able to pierce anything).
That being said, attack prevention+Manda(distraction)+
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OR HE COULD CONTROL IT REMOTELY.
blazekev90
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blazekev90
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that's if he's able to prep for the attack, attack prevention technique allows you to merge and emerge from the environment, giving Orochimaru to pop up at an unexpected point. This gives him an opening to remotely control or use his sword against Garra, especially if distracted by summonings.