kakashi flaw and future role

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let me start with the flaw.
This involves kamui.
@ the start of shippuden it took kakashi about 1 episode to prepare kamui, and he coult hardly absorb deidara's chest.
Then his mastery of the jutsu improved drastically in the next episode where he absorbed a suicide clone explosion from deidara, without preparing kamui. He recieved hospitalisation as a penalty for this henious crime.
After being replaced by a dissapointing copy of hashirama, kakashi fights hidan and kakuzu, with the support of team shikamaru. He does not use kamui, even though they had more than one episode to prepare it. He could have tried to remove deidara's or kakuzu's head or chest, more effective than a raikiri. He didnt use kamui in the entirety of the fight, but he was about to use it to survive kakuzu removing his heart.
Fast forward to kakashi vs tendo. Kakashi created 1 clone, used 2 raikirs, and a lighting dog, a petty doton and then he died after using 2 instances of kamui, on a nail and a small missile. He had used up al his chackra. I still think that kakashi should have tried to one shot tendo with kamui, instead of trying to use raikir when they had tendo trapped.
Fast forward to the ninja war. Kakashi used raikir on haku and some fodder techs on the 7 ninja swordsmen, then he and guy came to rescue bee and naruto from obito. In that fight he created a shadow clone, used chain lightning, raikir on the mini bijus. Then he was suggesting using kamui on 6 bijudamas!!! Yet he died when he used half the chackra on tendo! And also he explained that the amount of chackra required for kamui is directly proportional to the objects mass. Well if you are gonna tell me that biju bombs have no mass i will point out to you the scene where naruto's kage bushin tried to create a mini biju dama in his chackra cloak form and the rubber man (lol) said that the bomb was too heavy (even though this was a mini bomb) to carry in that state. Now if kakashi couldnt teleport shurado (the pain who uses mech/missiles) coz he was afraid he wud die before he couldnt complete the feat, and this guy only weighs so much, wtf made him believe he could telebort 6 biju bombs??? Please not,he hadnt been given chakra by the kyuubi/naruto yet.

Anyway now moving forward to the possible role he might play in the war, i want to remind people about the episode in which kakashi wanted to use kamui to remove the gedo mauzo's head. Obito seemed to have countered the effort by usig his sharingan. Watever. My point is that kakashi could try removing the god tree's flower, the one that bears the eye, and since obito cant use kamui it could work. Very small chance, but it is possible. If you got to this part, thanks for reading. :)
 

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh
only 1 problemo bro
Obito can still use Kamui.

rest agreed.
war arc kakashi has improved a lot.
 

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kakashi using Kamui more effectively and having more chakra reserves isn't a flaw, his chakra has increased, and it proves it...And Kakashi will be back, I am sure....=D=D
 

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kakashi using Kamui more effectively and having more chakra reserves isn't a flaw, his chakra has increased, and it proves it...And Kakashi will be back, I am sure....=D=D

this ^^^^ =D
 

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kakashi using Kamui more effectively and having more chakra reserves isn't a flaw, his chakra has increased, and it proves it...And Kakashi will be back, I am sure....=D=D

one cant simply grow m bijubombs worth of chackra reserves in the space of a few days, so its highly improbable
 

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First thing... Its Kakashi... The man who have copied a 1000 justus.... Sharingan only gives you an oppertunity to copy... but it depends on the person to either master it or not... according to his skill... so kakashi having mastery over such large range of jutsus is no small feat. Just goes to show how adaptable he is.....

Second... Kamui is a sharingan tech... Like a recursive loop... You get better at it as you use it... Having better control at it... And this is a war... and it didn't just come out of nowhere... All must have did their preparations and kakashi is known to be a fast one.... So he must have advanced quite well......

Third.... Kakashi is hyped up enough.... Its just we who think he is not match of OP characters.... Kishimoto thinks the other way... So kakashi powering up to the level solely rely on kishimoto's wish.... Most probably kakashi must be doing his prepartion as of now..... And will come out with a last moment kinda twist... And 2 chapters worth of explaination of what he was doing there in the kamui dimension....

So he will first teleport a nail and die, then a shinobi and die and finally six bijuu damas and die....

(The apparent fact that you are talking abt kakashi powering up.. makes almost all this worthless... Please no offence... Just that he is kakashi.... Nice post anyway)
 

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The raw states that Obito can't use Kamui under the current circumstances he is in.
 

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Though Obito can't use kumai on himself, I think this do to the Juubi being inside him. However he could use it on someone else I think, so he should still be able to cancel Kakashi's Kkmai.
 

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The raw states that Obito can't use Kamui under the current circumstances he is in.

kakashi using Kamui more effectively and having more chakra reserves isn't a flaw, his chakra has increased, and it proves it...And Kakashi will be back, I am sure....=D=D

These two said it all :cool:
 

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let me start with the flaw.
This involves kamui.
@ the start of shippuden it took kakashi about 1 episode to prepare kamui, and he coult hardly absorb deidara's chest.
Then his mastery of the jutsu improved drastically in the next episode where he absorbed a suicide clone explosion from deidara, without preparing kamui. He recieved hospitalisation as a penalty for this henious crime.
After being replaced by a dissapointing copy of hashirama, kakashi fights hidan and kakuzu, with the support of team shikamaru. He does not use kamui, even though they had more than one episode to prepare it. He could have tried to remove deidara's or kakuzu's head or chest, more effective than a raikiri. He didnt use kamui in the entirety of the fight, but he was about to use it to survive kakuzu removing his heart.
Fast forward to kakashi vs tendo. Kakashi created 1 clone, used 2 raikirs, and a lighting dog, a petty doton and then he died after using 2 instances of kamui, on a nail and a small missile. He had used up al his chackra. I still think that kakashi should have tried to one shot tendo with kamui, instead of trying to use raikir when they had tendo trapped.
Fast forward to the ninja war. Kakashi used raikir on haku and some fodder techs on the 7 ninja swordsmen, then he and guy came to rescue bee and naruto from obito. In that fight he created a shadow clone, used chain lightning, raikir on the mini bijus. Then he was suggesting using kamui on 6 bijudamas!!! Yet he died when he used half the chackra on tendo! And also he explained that the amount of chackra required for kamui is directly proportional to the objects mass. Well if you are gonna tell me that biju bombs have no mass i will point out to you the scene where naruto's kage bushin tried to create a mini biju dama in his chackra cloak form and the rubber man (lol) said that the bomb was too heavy (even though this was a mini bomb) to carry in that state. Now if kakashi couldnt teleport shurado (the pain who uses mech/missiles) coz he was afraid he wud die before he couldnt complete the feat, and this guy only weighs so much, wtf made him believe he could telebort 6 biju bombs??? Please not,he hadnt been given chakra by the kyuubi/naruto yet.

Anyway now moving forward to the possible role he might play in the war, i want to remind people about the episode in which kakashi wanted to use kamui to remove the gedo mauzo's head. Obito seemed to have countered the effort by usig his sharingan. Watever. My point is that kakashi could try removing the god tree's flower, the one that bears the eye, and since obito cant use kamui it could work. Very small chance, but it is possible. If you got to this part, thanks for reading. :)
Chakra bank inconsistencies.
Prime Kakashi's chakra banks have been on display this whole war, he's been pulling out all the tricks and spilling his guts on the field. Teleporting 6 BB maybe would have killed him, but he could do it.

Kakashi is not flaw. Kakashi is perfect.

And your prediction is possible.
 

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Kakashi is still not appreciated by the Base.
Yes, he might come in and save the day - it's odd for him to stay in that dimension for so long.

As for your "flaw", it's not a flaw, it's character progression. Obviously, giving him his current Kamui mastery and chakra reserves in the middle of the series would be foolish, since he would 1-hit-KO pretty much anyone. The series could be simply renamed to "Kakashi", but that wasn't the point.

That's why Kakashi has perfected Kamui only now, at the end of the series - and only now, when the arc's antagonist can nullify Kamui.
 
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