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MS abilities affects his eyes even if he is an Edo or not. He lost sight on his eye after he used Izanami!

Madara made it pretty clear that Edo zombies have unlimited chakra and undying body. Therefore, even if MS would still deteriorate Itachi's sight in Edo mode, Itachi was revived for a very short period of time, not enough to get blind.
And he still had unlimited chakra, so he could spam MS right and left without exhaustion. Not only MS, all of his jutsu.
 

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Once either brother look at Kakashi he gets hit with Amaterasu gameover
 

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Well, during recent fight against Kabuto, I have to agree that Itachi seemed to be better. Still, remember that he was immortal and had unlimited chakra. It was actually almost the same as if he had EMS himself, since MS jutsu no longer put any strain on him because of Edo. I'd say EMS Sasuke would be better than alive Itachi, but both would have chances of winning. ;)
Not really talking about the difference in power here. It's that i see them able to handle Sasuke long enough and find a strategy to beat him :)
 

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you know, i agree with you concerning this issue but it seems that on the other hand you are overestimating what sasuke can really do. I mean, kakashi stopped his arrow thats a fact. There's no need on elaborating. There's not so many people who can just avoid one of sasuke's arrows and he did it twice.

Somehow I can see Kakashi getting the other eye from tobi if he gets out alive from this fight. If that were the case then we would really see the true potential of kakashi. Plus his character is just great. Not everything is power. kakashi is a true genious when it comes to strategies.
 

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Madara made it pretty clear that Edo zombies have unlimited chakra and undying body. Therefore, even if MS would still deteriorate Itachi's sight in Edo mode, Itachi was revived for a very short period of time, not enough to get blind.
And he still had unlimited chakra, so he could spam MS right and left without exhaustion. Not only MS, all of his jutsu.

Yes he can spam his jutsus without getting exhausted but that doesnt mean that he isnt paying the price of using them. If he uses skills like Izanami OR Izanagi ( which i think its impossible for and Edo ) he still pays with sight.
 

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Not really talking about the difference in power here. It's that i see them able to handle Sasuke long enough and find a strategy to beat him :)

Well, that's true. To be honest, Sasuke is pretty dumb IMO. U_U
During battles and in the long run alike.
Ha is nothing compared to geniuses like Kakashi or Itachi.

Yes he can spam his jutsus without getting exhausted but that doesnt mean that he isnt paying the price of using them. If he uses skills like Izanami OR Izanagi ( which i think its impossible for and Edo ) he still pays with sight.

Izanami is very useless and if you're Edo, so is Izanagi - I mean, you cannot die anyway.
 
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you know, i agree with you concerning this issue but it seems that on the other hand you are overestimating what sasuke can really do. I mean, kakashi stopped his arrow thats a fact. There's no need on elaborating. There's not so many people who can just avoid one of sasuke's arrows and he did it twice.

Somehow I can see Kakashi getting the other eye from tobi if he gets out alive from this fight. If that were the case then we would really see the true potential of kakashi. Plus his character is just great. Not everything is power. kakashi is a true genious when it comes to strategies.

Yes he did block the arrow twice but still you saw him acting strange after he used it. He really gets exhausted after he uses Kamui more than 1-2 times. And Sasuke can do more than 2 arrows but i dont see Kakashi block more than 4-5
 

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Yes he did block the arrow twice but still you saw him acting strange after he used it. He really gets exhausted after he uses Kamui more than 1-2 times. And Sasuke can do more than 2 arrows but i dont see Kakashi block more than 4-5

After these two arrows, Sasuke was apparenty in worse shape than Kakashi.
 

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After these two arrows, Sasuke was apparenty in worse shape than Kakashi.

He was dumb enough to become blinded for like half an hour and Itachi got blinded for years of using the MS
 

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He was dumb enough to become blinded for like half an hour and Itachi got blinded for years of using the MS

That's because Itachi was smart enough to know avoid using MS whenever it's possible. Kakashi is also smart enough to avoid it when he can.
Sasuke? Nah, he prefers to spam and get blind in a week.
 

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Well, that's true. To be honest, Sasuke is pretty dumb IMO. U_U
During battles and in the long run alike.
Ha is nothing compared to geniuses like Kakashi or Itachi.



Izanami is very useless and if you're Edo, so is Izanagi - I mean, you cannot die anyway.

sasuke is a geniuse as well saying he is nothing to kakashi is a little farfetched
 

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That's because Itachi was smart enough to know avoid using MS whenever it's possible. Kakashi is also smart enough to avoid it when he can.
Sasuke? Nah, he prefers to spam and get blind in a week.

In an hour
 

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Well, that's true. To be honest, Sasuke is pretty dumb IMO. U_U
During battles and in the long run alike.
Ha is nothing compared to geniuses like Kakashi or Itachi.



Izanami is very useless and if you're Edo, so is Izanagi - I mean, you cannot die anyway.

Takos that is not the right word to say. Overconfident, Cocky, etc... But Sasuke is smart. He absorbed Orochimaru through his Sharingan genjutsu, he found the weakness of Deidara's jutsu, Danzo got caught in his weak genjutsu making it seem that he had one eye left, and Itachi called Sasuke strong for almost killing him with Kirin, he also said had he not have the Susanoo in his arsenal. He would of lost.

Sasuke just lets his emotions get in the way, becoming so stubborn in his repeated attacks. When he concentrates and he is calm, he actually spots enemies weaknesses very well and comes up with creative battle plans. Itachi is no doubt better than him, because he keeps his cool. Sasuke is probably a bit better than Kakashi in planning or on par. A genius is not given a title just for being a show off. Itachi, Sasuke, Kakashi, Shikamaru and Neji are all geniuses. Being a genius is not determined by your strength only it's determined by your ability to solve problems and be creative in more ways than one.
 

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sasuke is a geniuse as well saying he is nothing to kakashi is a little farfetched

I wonder why only Kakashi and not Itachi.
He may be a genius in terms of skills, but really, his intellect seems to be lacking severely. In all love for his brother, he is pretty passionate about destroying what Itachi wanted to protect. That's one stupid thing. Another is, he blames everyone around for things he shouldn't. Getting blind in a matter of weeks also tells us something.

As for Kakashi, he is the greatest strategist we've seen in the series and recent chapters prove it. He knows his weaknesses, isn't cocky, stays calm during battles... totally different than Sasuke.

Itachi also is a genius, just like Kakashi - both in skills and intellect.

Sasuke, as I've said, is very talented, but doesn't stand out in terms of intelligence.


Takos that is not the right word to say. Overconfident, Cocky, etc... But Sasuke is smart. He absorbed Orochimaru through his Sharingan genjutsu, he found the weakness of Deidara's jutsu, Danzo got caught in his weak genjutsu making it seem that he had one eye left, and Itachi called Sasuke strong for almost killing him with Kirin, he also said had he not have the Susanoo in his arsenal. He would of lost.

Sasuke just lets his emotions get in the way, becoming so stubborn in his repeated attacks. When he concentrates and he is calm, he actually spots enemies weaknesses very well and comes up with creative battle plans. Itachi is no doubt better than him, because he keeps his cool. Sasuke is probably a bit better than Kakashi in planning or on par. A genius is not given a title just for being a show off. Itachi, Sasuke, Kakashi, Shikamaru and Neji are all geniuses. Being a genius is not determined by your strength only it's determined by your ability to solve problems and be creative in more ways than one.

Well, in Part I and part of Part II he was intelligent. It's only later that he started acting really dumb.

Sasuke is probably a bit better than Kakashi in planning or on par.

I absolutely don't agree with this statement. Sasuke would have never come up with such plans as Kakashi's, which are shown even in most recent chapters.

Being a genius is not determined by your strength only it's determined by your ability to solve problems and be creative in more ways than one.

I agree with it, but in Naruto term "genius" has been used about other things than intellect. Sasuke was called genius because he was very talented. Lee was called a genius of hard work, which has nothing to do with intellect or even talent.

Sasuke was never stated to be as intelligent as Kakashi or Itachi.
 
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kakashi cant beat itachi but i think he can beat sasuke.sasuke isnt the same as he was in the beginning of shippuden.he doesnt think and strategize like he used too,he just spams with susanoo in hopes to win.
 

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I wonder why only Kakashi and not Itachi.
He may be a genius in terms of skills, but really, his intellect seems to be lacking severely. In all love for his brother, he is pretty passionate about destroying what Itachi wanted to protect. That's one stupid thing. Another is, he blames everyone around for things he shouldn't. Getting blind in a matter of weeks also tells us something.

As for Kakashi, he is the greatest strategist we've seen in the series and recent chapters prove it. He knows his weaknesses, isn't cocky, stays calm during battles... totally different than Sasuke.

Itachi also is a genius, just like Kakashi - both in skills and intellect.

Sasuke, as I've said, is very talented, but doesn't stand out in terms of intelligence.




Well, in Part I and part of Part II he was intelligent. It's only later that he started acting really dumb.



I absolutely don't agree with this statement. Sasuke would have never come up with such plans as Kakashi's, which are shown even in most recent chapters.



I agree with it, but in Naruto term "genius" has been used about other things than intellect. Sasuke was called genius because he was very talented. Lee was called a genius of hard work, which has nothing to do with intellect or even talent.

Sasuke was never stated to be as intelligent as Kakashi or Itachi.

Tobi really messed up Sasuke. When he gets back to his original self. He will be smart again, hopefully.
 

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I wonder why only Kakashi and not Itachi.
He may be a genius in terms of skills, but really, his intellect seems to be lacking severely. In all love for his brother, he is pretty passionate about destroying what Itachi wanted to protect. That's one stupid thing. Another is, he blames everyone around for things he shouldn't. Getting blind in a matter of weeks also tells us something.

As for Kakashi, he is the greatest strategist we've seen in the series and recent chapters prove it. He knows his weaknesses, isn't cocky, stays calm during battles... totally different than Sasuke.

Itachi also is a genius, just like Kakashi - both in skills and intellect.

Sasuke, as I've said, is very talented, but doesn't stand out in terms of intelligence.




Well, in Part I and part of Part II he was intelligent. It's only later that he started acting really dumb.



I absolutely don't agree with this statement. Sasuke would have never come up with such plans as Kakashi's, which are shown even in most recent chapters.



I agree with it, but in Naruto term "genius" has been used about other things than intellect. Sasuke was called genius because he was very talented. Lee was called a genius of hard work, which has nothing to do with intellect or even talent.

Sasuke was never stated to be as intelligent as Kakashi or Itachi.

dos are just his emotions getting the better of him it has nothing to do with his intelligence in terms of battle.he has displayed good smart feats in battles with deidara itachi danzo etc becos he allows his emotions sometyms control him doesnt mean hes not a genius wen it comes to battle and yes i agree hes not as intelligent as kakashi but not being intelligent as someone does not mean not being intelligent like i said he is also a genius and that includes being smart
 

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dos are just his emotions getting the better of him it has nothing to do with his intelligence in terms of battle.he has displayed good smart feats in battles with deidara itachi danzo etc becos he allows his emotions sometyms control him doesnt mean hes not a genius wen it comes to battle and yes i agree hes not as intelligent as kakashi but not being intelligent as someone does not mean not being intelligent like i said he is also a genius and that includes being smart

I bet at Kakashi's age, he can be smarter than him.
 

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Kakashi is a very strong shinobi and will go down in history, he's probably the second top Jonin in the leaf aside from guy..he's still awesome though

that i can agree....him and guy sensei will become the next sannin after the previous ones retire/pass on...it makes sense at least to me i guess:shrug:
 
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