Kakashi did not have a harder life than Obito's life (Part One)

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Obito being an Uchiha plays a major part in him having a hard time overcoming the painful events in his life.
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Why are we comparing childhood wounds? Does having the worst past somehow make one better than the other.

The fact of the matter is they both had pretty messed up childhoods.

Kakashi's dad killed himself, Kakashi also unintentionally killed Rin.

Obito was crushed by a rock, was deceived by an old bitter man, and witnessed the death of a girl he had affections for by a close friend. Then went ape sh*t on everyone.

Both pretty traumatic if you ask me.

I feel like this is another one of those threads that is trying to prove how much better the Uchiha are over everyone else because they get all emo whenever something terrible happens XD (no offense to the OP)
 
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Oh you Mark Sandwich ,If are saying that obito suffered more than kakashi than that means Naruto also suffered more than kakashi because more or less naruto is a opposite of obito.

BTW i disagree Kakashi suffered more than anyone else in NV So STFU naruto hater
 

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Kakashi's life was way harder than Obito's.
 

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Gold Lightning and a few others here have good points. Very good points.
In fact: Some of these threads arguments are very lacking.
Kakashi was just ashamed after his fathers death? Are you sure?
Just because People are not showing emotions, doesnt mean they dont have them.
Must have been devastating to have your Heroic Father die in front of your eyes and to top that his reputation beeing crushed like that.
Also you are saying he had skill so it was easier for him... how does that help him in anyway regarding his feelings. All that "admiration" isnst worth shit if you are suffering.
Then, Obitos "Death".. Rins death, and Minato Dying as well. Kakashi sure had ist easy.
Im sorry to tell you, but Kakasi did not have it easier. He simply dealt with it. And dealing with it is exaxctly what Obity coulndnt do, may it be to the whole "Uchia become mad bla" thing Kishi pulled to rescue his plot.
 

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Maybe I should make Part two sooner than later to clear up some misconceptions though I want to do it after Thursday's episode
 

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OMFG!!!! yes i would say that gaara and Obito had the worst life but not saskue. saskue killed his brother and still didnt go back to the leaf wanna knw why cause he's a non-caring ***** who only wants to do him no one else and he thinks he's going to be hokage xD dont make me laugh. and it wasnt for a girl it was because he seen kakashi kill her right be fore his eyes i bet if he did that to your mom you would go to that point where u ****ing rage out but he had a choice to kill kakshi but he didnt cause he stills has a lil love in side him but saskue ****ing try to kill naruto and sakura so this post that u wrote take it off wrost post ever
The leaf opressed his clan, massacred his clan and then lied to him all his life.... I wouldn't come back either :|
 

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OMFG!!!! yes i would say that gaara and Obito had the worst life but not saskue. saskue killed his brother and still didnt go back to the leaf wanna knw why cause he's a non-caring ***** who only wants to do him no one else and he thinks he's going to be hokage xD dont make me laugh. and it wasnt for a girl it was because he seen kakashi kill her right be fore his eyes i bet if he did that to your mom you would go to that point where u ****ing rage out but he had a choice to kill kakshi but he didnt cause he stills has a lil love in side him but saskue ****ing try to kill naruto and sakura so this post that u wrote take it off wrost post ever

You are so wrong regarding Sasuke.
 

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This shouldnt be a contest people.
 

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After Obito's virtual death, he had his chance to start from scratch but he was too weak[mentally] and gave in to the Darkness in his heart...
On the other hand, Kakashi's misfortunes continued... Even Obito's virtual death was a big burden itself...

All of the things happened to Obito were natural while Kakashi was sometimes forced...
He killed Rin with his own hands, one who [promised his best friend] he would protect with own life anytime...
That's some burden that only Itachi shares with him although of huge scale...
 

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No kakashi had it harder.
Obito never had the love of a parent. So he wouldn't know what it's like to lose them. Especially if they killed themselves. Most kids.(especially a 5-7 year old kakashi) would blame themselves for that. And kakashi in a way did. To both get out of his fathers shadow and not relive his dad's mistakes he followed rules to the letter. He might not show it but it's clear kakashi is afraid of being ridiculed and looked down upon. Especially since those very acts pushed his father to suicide. Kakashi didn't really close this wound until he met his father in the afterlife.

Kakashi only gained acknowledgement through his father everyone already had high hopes for the son of sakumo, and it got to the point where he'd be mistaken for his father even in situations where it wouldn't make sense. But as I've already said since sakumo failed the mission ppl changed their outlook on the boy.
Despite rin having romantic feelings for kakashi she never ignored obito because of it, and when the three were together she didn't show favoritism. So that's moot.
Then you have kakashi gaining the sharingan, a constant reminder of the friends he failed to protect and the promises he failed to keep. Then(at least according to the anime) he tried to drown out and suppress his sorrow in the anbu. Becoming a merciless killer. Then he has to become a team captain and watch his own team practically relive his failures. Naruto almost dying every now and again sasuke trying to kill sakura in a manner not so unlike his own. Etc etc.

Then comes his personality shifts. Despite kakashi being an introvert we actively see how the ppl around him mold his personality.

Kakashi's father: Despite being rather sarcastic kakashi was a well balanced kid during the time his father was alive. But after his father died(for not following the rules) he began to do everything by the book. No ifs ands or butts. If he did this he wouldn't fall into disgrace like his father did.

Obito's "death": after obito died he let rules take a backseat to teamwork(something minato forced on him) and also adopted his habit of being late all the time.(spending all of his time in front of the shrine to obito's(and all other kia's) death. Then coming up with the same half assed excuses.

And he went through all of this only to find out obito is still alive and is the reason behind almost everything bad in naruto be it directly or indirectly.

I'd even say he reads porn to keep the ladies at a distance from him after what happened to rin. Lol


But seriously everyone he cared for died. His father, then obito, then rin, then minato and kushina, guy was about to join that list to. And even naruto was on it for a while.
 
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No kakashi had it harder.
Obito never had the love of a parent. So he wouldn't know what it's like to lose them. Especially if they killed themselves. Most kids.(especially a 5-7 year old kakashi) would blame themselves for that. And kakashi in a way did. To both get out of his fathers shadow and not relive his dad's mistakes he followed rules to the letter. He might not show it but it's clear kakashi is afraid of being ridiculed and looked down upon. Especially since those very acts pushed his father to suicide. Kakashi didn't really close this wound until he met his father in the afterlife.

Kakashi only gained acknowledgement through his father everyone already had high hopes for the son of sakumo, and it got to the point where he'd be mistaken for his father even in situations where it wouldn't make sense. But as I've already said since sakumo failed the mission ppl changed their outlook on the boy.
Despite rin having romantic feelings for kakashi she never ignored obito because of it, and when the three were together she didn't show favoritism. So that's moot.
Then you have kakashi gaining the sharingan, a constant reminder of the friends he failed to protect and the promises he failed to keep. Then(at least according to the anime) he tried to drown out and suppress his sorrow in the anbu. Becoming a merciless killer. Then he has to become a team captain and watch his own team practically relive his failures. Naruto almost dying every now and again sasuke trying to kill sakura in a manner not so unlike his own. Etc etc.

Then comes his personality shifts. Despite kakashi being an introvert we actively see how the ppl around him mold his personality.

Kakashi's father: Despite being rather sarcastic kakashi was a well balanced kid during the time his father was alive. But after his father died(for not following the rules) he began to do everything by the book. No ifs ands or butts. If he did this he wouldn't fall into disgrace like his father did.

Obito's "death": after obito died he let rules take a backseat to teamwork(something minato forced on him) and also adopted his habit of being late all the time.(spending all of his time in front of the shrine to obito's(and all other kia's) death. Then coming up with the same half assed excuses.

And he went through all of this only to find out obito is still alive and is the reason behind almost everything bad in naruto be it directly or indirectly.

I'd even say he reads porn to keep the ladies at a distance from him after what happened to rin. Lol


But seriously everyone he cared for died. His father, then obito, then rin, then minato and kushina, guy was about to join that list to. And even naruto was on it for a while.

Rereading this I used the word "then" way to much. I have to work on my transition words.
 

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Nice thread, if u look at the world from Obito's mindset (thinking the world is hell) and opposing the whole world trying to accomplish what he thought was "true peace". every single day that he spent would've been like hell for him and being alone,no one to rely on,no one to share his pain.....i can't even imagine how he lived through all these years.

the level of suffering is different for different people going through same incident, cuz the strongly u love something or the more attached u are to it, losing or being betrayed by it will make u hurt even more. Obito had strong feelings of love/friendship/compassion from the start so the hate would also be strong, irrespective of the events.

Obito is one of the most complex characters of this manga. whether hating or liking him depends solely on your understanding of him from his point of view.
 

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The only reason no one cared about Obito's success, is because he himself did not work as hard as Kakashi to earn people's respect. Instead, he acts stupid and scores loser's grades. Hell, he is an Uchiha, and would naturally be skilled, yet he wasn't, because he didn't work too hard for his abilities.

Parent's argument is shitty argument. Watching your parent committing suicide is worse than not having parents. By not having parents, you would not need to experience the pain and mental suffering from losing someone so dear to you. Kakashi had to experience that pain and mental suffering, which impacted him to turn into a selfish and caring about the rules.

Who did Obito lose again? Rin, the girl that never returned the love. Wheres Kakashi lost his father, Obito, Rin, and Minato. And, to further support this, Kakashi who spread Obito's ideals to his teams ended up being BS, due to Obito turning evil. So, Kakashi has so much burden upon him.

Unlike Obito, Kakashi didn't need to turn evil for a little girl. He kept all of his losses and pain inside himself, wheres Obito turned evil and crushing the world for a little girl who never liked. Obito's entire life is pathetic and nowhere near tragic. Kakashi's whole life is fraud and pain.

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The only reason no one cared about Obito's success, is because he himself did not work as hard as Kakashi to earn people's respect. Instead, he acts stupid and scores loser's grades. Hell, he is an Uchiha, and would naturally be skilled, yet he wasn't, because he didn't work too hard for his abilities.

Parent's argument is shitty argument. Watching your parent committing suicide is worse than not having parents. By not having parents, you would not need to experience the pain and mental suffering from losing someone so dear to you. Kakashi had to experience that pain and mental suffering, which impacted him to turn into a selfish and caring about the rules.

Who did Obito lose again? Rin, the girl that never returned the love. Wheres Kakashi lost his father, Obito, Rin, and Minato. And, to further support this, Kakashi who spread Obito's ideals to his teams ended up being BS, due to Obito turning evil. So, Kakashi has so much burden upon him.

Unlike Obito, Kakashi didn't need to turn evil for a little girl. He kept all of his losses and pain inside himself, wheres Obito turned evil and crushing the world for a little girl who never liked. Obito's entire life is pathetic and nowhere near tragic. Kakashi's whole life is fraud and pain.

Shit and wanker thread.​

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