Kakashi-Cut the Crap People!!

[Bogard]

well it's good you don't belive that hes immune.

the fact is you still think minato is the strongest in the show don't you and that he cn defeat anyone.

- I'm not saying he is immune or not. I'm only saying we don't know if it's the case or not, because Minato only fought once, in the contrary of Itachi, we see every day in the mangas. So you can't juge from such things that Minato can't do this, can't do that, when he only appear rarely in the manga. We don't actually know his real power in the contrary of Itachi who show us his power every day.

- I still believe Minato can beat everyone, but that doesn't mean he is the stronger, but that he has chance of winning against everyone and i see him stronger than Itachi.

 

[Blaze Release]

If Hidan is Akatsuki level, then so is Kakashi >.< People do need to stop overrating Kakashi though. The only reason we think hes so cool is because before we were really introduced to the ninja world he was one of the more powerful ninja that we'd seen. And considering that Konoha doesn't have that many powerful nin its not surprising that the fans want to keep him on that pedestal even though evidence suggests otherwise...

Actually i disagee and tbh people get the two confused. Is kakashi akatsuki level as in can he beat a couple of akatsuki members?, the answer is yes and the only people that he is guaranteed a win is against zetsu and hidan.

Can kakashi get into akatsuki?, the answer is no and this is why. Read what shikamaru says;

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You have to have extraordinary ability or abilities and kakashi is pretty normal.
Look at the characters for example;
Hidan - immortal
Kakuzu - 5 hearts (pretty immortal)
Sasori - nearly immortal. Human puppet
Kisame - bijuu level chakra, plus samahada
Itachi - susano, legendary weapons, izanami, tsukuyomi, amaterasu
Nagato- rennigan
Tobi- S/t technique surpasses both the 2nd and 4th hokage. Izanagi. Pretty old (nearly immortal)
Deidora; Unique ability with clay bombs
Zetsu- just a human eating freak

The only akatsuki who isnt akatsuki material is konan and she got in because of nagato otherwise she isnt akatsuki material either

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I dont like that he can die from disease and malnutrition. He's not immortal then. I wish he was just no games immortal

I like how this thread used to be about Kakashi fandom lol

i never said hidan is immortal anyway, its shikamaru who said that BS

 

[Melizzle]

Actually i disagee and tbh people get the two confused. Is kakashi akatsuki level as in can he beat a couple of akatsuki members?, the answer is yes and the only people that he is guaranteed a win is against zetsu and hidan.

Can kakashi get into akatsuki?, the answer is no and this is why;

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You have to have extraordinary ability or abilities and kakashi is pretty normal.
Look at the characters for example;
Hidan - immortal
Kakuzu - 5 hearts (pretty immortal)
Sasori - nearly immortal. Human puppet
Kisame - bijuu level chakra, plus samahada
Itachi - susano, legendary weapons, izanami, tsukuyomi, amaterasu
Nagato- rennigan
Tobi- S/t technique surpasses both the 2nd and 4th hokage. Izanagi. Pretty old (nearly immortal)
Deidora; Unique ability with clay bombs
Zetsu- just a human eating freak

The only akatsuki who isnt akatsuki material is konan and she got in because of nagato otherwise she isnt akatsuki material either

Ehhhh while I agree that Kakashi can't get into Akatuski idk if Konan wouldn't be able to get in as well. She's pretty unique. Eh idk I'm not really a fan of hers either lol. Hidan is only in there cos Kazuku needed a partner he couldn't kill imo. Other than that Hidan isn't spectacular and I firmly believe that most people with half a brain could beat him. I mean his technique is so obvious its painful to me.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Ehhhh while I agree that Kakashi can't get into Akatuski idk if Konan wouldn't be able to get in as well. She's pretty unique. Eh idk I'm not really a fan of hers either lol. Hidan is only in there cos Kazuku needed a partner he couldn't kill imo. Other than that Hidan isn't spectacular and I firmly believe that most people with half a brain could beat him. I mean his technique is so obvious its painful to me.

hidan beat chiriku who apparently high jounin level like asuma and i bet he's smarter than hidan,

yes his tech is obvious but once he get you with that its all over for you

 

[Melizzle]

hidan beat chiriku who apparently high jounin level like asuma and i bet he's smarter than hidan,

yes his tech is obvious but once he get you with that its all over for you

Never in anyone's wildest dreams would I ever consider Asuma a high level ninja. That guy was terrible and stupid.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Never in anyone's wildest dreams would I ever consider Asuma a high level ninja. That guy was terrible and stupid.

well shikamaru think otherwise :shrug:

 

[Melizzle]

well shikamaru think otherwise :shrug:

Yeah cos that's his Sensei. Asuma relied on Shikamaru, never beat him at shogun (or w/e they played), I mean it was almost always the student teaching the teacher.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Actually i disagee and tbh people get the two confused. Is kakashi akatsuki level as in can he beat a couple of akatsuki members?, the answer is yes and the only people that he is guaranteed a win is against zetsu and hidan.

Can kakashi get into akatsuki?, the answer is no and this is why. Read what shikamaru says;

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You have to have extraordinary ability or abilities and kakashi is pretty normal.
Look at the characters for example;
Hidan - immortal
Kakuzu - 5 hearts (pretty immortal)
Sasori - nearly immortal. Human puppet
Kisame - bijuu level chakra, plus samahada
Itachi - susano, legendary weapons, izanami, tsukuyomi, amaterasu
Nagato- rennigan
Tobi- S/t technique surpasses both the 2nd and 4th hokage. Izanagi. Pretty old (nearly immortal)
Deidora; Unique ability with clay bombs
Zetsu- just a human eating freak

The only akatsuki who isnt akatsuki material is konan and she got in because of nagato otherwise she isnt akatsuki material either

Don't forget Kabuto....he was a spy under Sasori's mind control. Orochimaru undid this jutsu, and he became a servant under him.

Also, Kakuzu's previous partners. Before getting partnered up with Hidan, Kakuzu had other partners, but he killed them off because of his temper, or they just got in the way of his jutsu.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Yeah cos that's his Sensei. Asuma relied on Shikamaru, never beat him at shogun (or w/e they played), I mean it was almost always the student teaching the teacher.

and also he's chosen as the 12 guardian ninja for the feudal lord for fire country, the country acknowledge him,

well manga>you sweetheart xd

 

[michie]

Keep in mind....Like the rest of team 7, Kakashi has grown throughout the series. In the first mission he could barely take down Zabuza, but he has grown a lot since then. We were able to see Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke's growth, but we have yet to see an all out battle with Kakashi. Notice whenever Kakashi is doing a 1v1 he's usually intercepted by someone from Konoha. Kakashi still has a lot to offer, we just haven't had the chance to see it.
Btw Kakashi was close to being Hokage and is now a leader of tens of thousands of shinobi in the war arc.
Tl;dr Kakashi is awesome.

 

[Blaze Release]

Don't forget Kabuto....he was a spy under Sasori's mind control. Orochimaru undid this jutsu, and he became a servant under him.

Also, Kakuzu's previous partners. Before getting partnered up with Hidan, Kakuzu had other partners, but he killed them off because of his temper, or they just got in the way of his jutsu.

Kabuto wasnt in akatsuki he was no different to the other sasori bitches who were used as sacrifices for itachi and kisame's clones. We dont really know enough of kakuzu's partners to say, but im certain they also had unique abilities that not alot of people have.

I mean look at kakashi, apart from kamui what other unique abilities does he have?

I forgot to mention oro aswell, he is akatsuki material.

 

[itachi49]

I am making this thread to see why people are over-rating Kakashi so much. Please give reasons as to why you think Kakashi could hang with some of the toughest and why he can win in some cases.

1: Kakashi cannot beat Itachi-Kishi cleared that one.
2: Kakashi's Kamui has not beaten/killed anyone, so saying that he can just one shot someone is never enough of a reason to say he wins.
3: I have heard people say that Kakashi is much stronger than we have seen and base these theories on nothing.

Use evidence to back up arguments and stop being fanboys!! Kakashi is a great character with some great moves but stop making him limitless. His limits have been set and stated and he is never gonna be the strongest.

Making my point:

This is from Madromanof on Page 2: Kakashi can fight one on one with almost all akatsuki members and kill them except itachi and nagato. You see after witnessing sasuke use all ms techs made me think even kakashi can kill him. This isnt a joke kakashis arsenal is big enough to surprise us. To keep up with itachi evem for a little aint easy feat. While itachi is fighting to kill.

According to the manga Kakashi at his current level can't beat :

Tobi
Nagato
Itachi

He can beat with diffculty :

Kakuzu
Kisame
Sasori

He beat midly :

Deidara

He beats low dif :

Konan
Hidan

Kamui never killed true just like a lot of strongest jutsus in the manga listed in this trhead.Whatever,manga proved that it's a deadly jutsu.And everytime that it's used it's 100% hit the target,even a very exhausted near to death Kakashi was able to use his last kamui fast and perfectly on an harder angle on Shuradou's missile.

Even on very long range an unmastered kamui warped an elbow on a high flying target who try to escape.And the only reason that he missed his vital point is said by himself,it was because he coulnd't properly control the barrier and the size limitting the area.

Now that we saw what he's capable of with an unmastered kamui at very long range against a flying and escaping target,any neutral smart member would say that at close/middle range he can do very serious and deadly damage now that he mastered it (Pein missile,2 big susanoos arrows).Not to mension that kamui is almost instant,unpredictable and invisible even Pein with rinnegan didn't see anything coming same for Deidara.

Manga says it all,Kakashi's one of the strongest alive character and he isn't at his prime yet.When i see some funny post stating that he can't beat any akatsuki ,it just prove that he's very underated.

 

[Melizzle]

and also he's chosen as the 12 guardian ninja for the feudal lord for fire country, the country acknowledge him,

well manga>you sweetheart xd

I'm not just one of the people who are going to say someone is good just because they were a part of the gaurdian ninja, or cos they were in akatsuki. I'm going based off of what we saw, and from what we saw, he sucked. He relied on Shikamaru to have a chance against Hidan, was completely useless against Itachi and Kisame, and he wasn't even good in that filler arc when he faced some of his comrades from the 12 gaurdian ninja. Totsuka we usually agree on these matter and I still <3 you, but come on have you really seen evidence that shows you that Asuma is good?

 

[Blaze Release]

According to the manga Kakashi at his current level can't beat :

Tobi
Nagato
Itachi

He can beat with diffculty :

Kakuzu
Kisame
Sasori

He beat midly :

Deidara

He beats low dif :

Konan
Hidan

Current level?. Isnt kakashi on the same level as before the war started or am i missing something?

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I'm not just one of the people who are going to say someone is good just because they were a part of the gaurdian ninja, or cos they were in akatsuki. I'm going based off of what we saw,

and from what we saw, he sucked. He relied on Shikamaru to have a chance against Hidan, was completely useless against Itachi and Kisame,

and he wasn't even good in that filler arc when he faced some of his comrades from the 12 gaurdian ninja. Totsuka we usually agree on these matter and I still <3 you, but come on have you really seen evidence that shows you that Asuma is good?

well if you ask me, he's done a pretty good job as shinobi, you can't compared him to the power house dude, but as a jounin he's better than the average jounin

 

[SasukexNeji]

Some people wouldn't believe Kakashi was overrated if Kishi decided to tell us himself. Smh.

 

[itachi49]

Current level?. Isnt kakashi on the same level as before the war started or am i missing something?

Kakashi is still kage level but he's still evoluting like others characters.As you can see his stanima when he's fighting for almost 2 days against strongest characters and jinchurickis and his few news jutsus.

So yes Kakashi is still on Kage level but he stronger than before since he showed new performances.

 

[Melizzle]

well if you ask me, he's done a pretty good job as shinobi, you can't compared him to the power house dude, but as a jounin he's better than the average jounin

Ok then here's some Jounin that we know

Shikaku
Ino's Dad
Choji's Dad
Aoba
Guy
Kakashi
Genjutsu lady
Temari
Kankuro
Genma
Let's through Neji in there
Well we know a good deal

How many of these people can Asuma beat? I think he's fodder :/

 

[Blaze Release]

Kakashi is still kage level but he's still evoluting like others characters.

Low kage?, yes but you said his current level as if he has shown us anything new in the war. He is the same kakashi as before the war.

Also kakashi has reached his potential. How much stronger can he get really?.