Kakashi-Cut the Crap People!!

[The Eye]

Kamui can of course kill someone if it hits but to use it as the reason why Kakashi would win any fight is a flawed way of saying he can beat someone in a one on one. In theory yes but it should not be the basis for saying he wins. It's the same as saying Kunai to the face could win.
I dunno what to think about the 1000 Jutsu thing, he was meant to go on a rampage but then we saw jack-sh**.

About LaddyGagga: I can't be bothered with people who post the sort of crap that douche posted. Comment to say you're not commenting? LOL



Actually some people have said Kakashi can beat Itachi, but I don't really mean to just target those people.

I of course agree that Kamui to the head would kill but at the same time the same should be true for getting a Kunai to the face-although it would kill, it's not likely to land and has yet to be done.

yea it has been done
via Minato in the 3rd great ninja war

but i understand what you mean, what are the chances of somone allowing that to happen

 

[Bogard]

people like bogard are ones who overrate him.

baically member with no logic. have you seen some of bogards posts towards minato, pure and utter fanboy.

You're the one who overrate Itachi or underestimate Kakashi(like many though) even saying that he is miles faster than Kakashi, as if Kakashi was slow

 

[Bogard]

itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
kisame>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
deidara>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
sasori>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
hidan>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
kakuzu>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
nagato>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
konan>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
3 tomoe tobi>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
zetsu>>>>>>>>>>>> kakashi

kakashi isn't a akatsuki lvl

an exhausted sasuke nearly beats him

haissss kakashi is such a weakling

That's an example of people who underestimate Kakashi highly. If he was so weak, then why Pain himself(leader of Akatsuki) say that "I must kill you now, cuz if i don't do that, you could cause us problems in the futur".

 

[lswhyte123]

heres another argument someone tried to use against itachi in favour of kakshi.

such fail.

Haha I was just about to use that one xd Sooo funny!!

You're the one who overrate Itachi or underestimate Kakashi(like many though) even saying that he is miles faster than Kakashi, as if Kakashi was slow

stfu...no one is under-rating Kakashi on that thread but saying Kakashi is much slower than Itachi is simply stating the obvious. Itachi>>>>>>Kakashi.

There is a big difference in their class and level and Kakashi barely managed to hold his sh** together against Itachi and Itachi was just trying to disable them and not harm anyone.

 

[Bogard]

Itachi is faster but not miles faster. He is a little bit faster so far we see this mangas, at least if we see the same manga. And no, Kakashi has shown he can keep up with him. I think Itachi is seriously overrated

 

[Beta1]

Kakashi is Akatsuki level.

He wouldn't stand a chance against Itachi, Nagato or Tobi but saying everyone in Akatsuki can beat him is not okay. He's a top notch Shinobi. Top 5 in Konoha he can hang with some big ones. Just not The ridiculously strong ones.

In theory Kumai could one shot everyone but not going to happen. Kumai is a high risk jutsu. It takes alot of chakra and if he misses he's kinda F*cked.

 

[-Vegeta-]

He's both overrated and underrated. This quote right here is an example of underrating him.

itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
kisame>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
deidara>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
sasori>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
hidan>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
kakuzu>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
nagato>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
konan>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
3 tomoe tobi>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
zetsu>>>>>>>>>>>> kakashi

kakashi isn't a akatsuki lvl

an exhausted sasuke nearly beats him

haissss kakashi is such a weakling

I am tired of the kamui nonsense though because it's simply pure ignorance to say he can one shot anyone with it. It's like Itachi fanboys saying Itachi can one shot anyone with tsukuyomi. Pure and utter ignorance.

 

[lswhyte123]

Itachi is faster but not miles faster. He is a little bit faster so far we see this mangas, at least if we see the same manga. And no, Kakashi has shown he can keep up with him. I think Itachi is seriously overrated

Prove that they have similar speeds then.

Kakashi is Akatsuki level.

He wouldn't stand a chance against Itachi, Nagato or Tobi but saying everyone in Akatsuki can beat him is not okay. He's a top notch Shinobi. Top 5 in Konoha he can hang with some big ones. Just not The ridiculously strong one.

In theory Kumai could one shot everyone but not going to happen. Kumai is a high risk jutsu. It takes alot of chakra and if he misses he's kinda F*cked.

He is not akatsuki level...don't talk crap.

He is great but the Akatsuki require some serious firepower to be taken down.

 

[Blaze Release]

itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
kisame>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
deidara>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
sasori>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
hidan>>>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
kakuzu>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
nagato>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
konan>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
3 tomoe tobi>>>>>>>>>>>kakashi
zetsu>>>>>>>>>>>> kakashi

kakashi isn't a akatsuki lvl

an exhausted sasuke nearly beats him

haissss kakashi is such a weakling

Actually majority of neutrals will agree with this, although there are certain things that i disagree with. I believe he will beat hidan, im not sure how he will kill him even if he 1 shot's his head, we know that hidan can still stay alive, although he cannot fight therefore its a win for kakashi.

Obviously he beats 1 zetsu, thats just fail on your part

If konan was to prepare her paper bombs then kakashi isnt surviving what tobi did with izanagi.

His fight with diedora can go either way although im leaning towards deidora because although kakashi and sasuke are very similar, both have shairgan and lightning release chakra to see and neutralise c4, sasuke had the cm2 for chakra boost, but also to close the ariel advantage deidora has, something which will pose kakashi great problems. If deidora was to use c0 kakashi isnt teleporting that shit away. Basically kakashi cannot defeat deidora therefore that ends in a draw or a win to deidora.

Kakuzu will be an interesting fight, but ill leaning towards kakuzu.

Basically the only people that kakashi guarantee's a win is against zetsu and hidan

 

[Beta1]

He is not akatsuki level...don't talk crap.

He is great but the Akatsuki require some serious firepower to be taken down.

I think he's Akatsuki level for sure V.V
The think with Akatsuki is that they use a lot of forbidden jutsus Like Kakuzu.

I think he's without a doubt Akatsuki level.

 

[Bogard]

Prove that they have similar speeds then.

I already said what i wanted to say in the topic Itachi vs Kakashi. It's up to you to believe me or not.

 

[lswhyte123]

I already said what i wanted to say in the topic Itachi vs Kakashi. It's up to you to believe me or not.

I don't believe you as I know you are wrong...

 

[Bogard]

all you did is show me page where 30 percent itachi dodged kakshis attack andoutmanouverd him by grabbing him.

which just prooved how much faster itachi is.

What you intentionally forget to mention is that he dodges attacks of 50% Kakashi and Kakashi do the same.
@lswhyte123 If you hadn't understood, it was only to say that i'm tired to explain myself when i know already you won't believe me.

 

[Melizzle]

If Hidan is Akatsuki level, then so is Kakashi >.< People do need to stop overrating Kakashi though. The only reason we think hes so cool is because before we were really introduced to the ninja world he was one of the more powerful ninja that we'd seen. And considering that Konoha doesn't have that many powerful nin its not surprising that the fans want to keep him on that pedestal even though evidence suggests otherwise...

 

[lswhyte123]

What you intentionally forget to mention is that he dodges attacks of 50% Kakashi and Kakashi do the same.

50% is more than 30% btw...

Also, Itachi has never tried to actually fight against any of the Konoha shinobi,he only wanted to get them outta his way and retreat.

We all now know that Itachi was always working to keep Konoha safe and as such would not harm any of the citizens or Shinobi-He fought only because he had to and tried to disarm his enemies with Genjutsu and avoid any real fighting.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

I am making this thread to see why people are over-rating Kakashi so much. Please give reasons as to why you think Kakashi could hang with some of the toughest and why he can win in some cases.

1: Kakashi cannot beat Itachi-Kishi cleared that one.
2: Kakashi's Kamui has not beaten/killed anyone, so saying that he can just one shot someone is never enough of a reason to say he wins.
3: I have heard people say that Kakashi is much stronger than we have seen and base these theories on nothing.

Use evidence to back up arguments and stop being fanboys!! Kakashi is a great character with some great moves but stop making him limitless. His limits have been set and stated and he is never gonna be the strongest.

Making my point:

This is from Madromanof on Page 2: Kakashi can fight one on one with almost all akatsuki members and kill them except itachi and nagato. You see after witnessing sasuke use all ms techs made me think even kakashi can kill him. This isnt a joke kakashis arsenal is big enough to surprise us. To keep up with itachi evem for a little aint easy feat. While itachi is fighting to kill.

C'mon dude even though Kakashi didnt beat Kakazu or Hidan he was holding his own

He could hang with the elites believe it or not

Give credit where credits due

 

[lswhyte123]

C'mon dude even though Kakashi didnt beat Kakazu or Hidan he was holding his own

He could hang with the elites believe it or not

Give credit where credits due

Hanging with the toughest is basically being able to fight on even terms with them. He cannot fight on even terms with Itachi,Nagato,Tobi,Madara etc...

That is my point. People who think Kakashi can beat the likes of Itachi etc are simply clinging to dreams.

 

[Beta1]

Hanging with the toughest is basically being able to fight on even terms with them. He cannot fight on even terms with Itachi,Nagato,Tobi,Madara etc...

That is my point. People who think Kakashi can beat the likes of Itachi etc are simply clinging to dreams.

What about fans like me who Knows he can't beat Itachi, Nagato and so on.
I just want people to give him the credit he derserves. Saying he's not Akatsuki level is underrating him. He would be top 3 weakest but he's still there.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

If Hidan is Akatsuki level, then so is Kakashi >.< People do need to stop overrating Kakashi though. The only reason we think hes so cool is because before we were really introduced to the ninja world he was one of the more powerful ninja that we'd seen. And considering that Konoha doesn't have that many powerful nin its not surprising that the fans want to keep him on that pedestal even though evidence suggests otherwise...

the reason why hidan is in akatsuki, its because he was special, he get stabbed in a heart and he still bitching his ability make the bijuu capturing feast easier,
you don't see that everyday

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Actually majority of neutrals will agree with this, although there are certain things that i disagree with. I believe he will beat hidan, im not sure how he will kill him even if he 1 shot's his head, we know that hidan can still stay alive, although he cannot fight therefore its a win for kakashi.

Obviously he beats 1 zetsu, thats just fail on your part

If konan was to prepare her paper bombs then kakashi isnt surviving what tobi did with izanagi.

His fight with diedora can go either way although im leaning towards deidora because although kakashi and sasuke are very similar, both have shairgan and lightning release chakra to see and neutralise c4, sasuke had the cm2 for chakra boost, but also to close the ariel advantage deidora has, something which will pose kakashi great problems. If deidora was to use c0 kakashi isnt teleporting that shit away. Basically kakashi cannot defeat deidora therefore that ends in a draw or a win to deidora.

Kakuzu will be an interesting fight, but ill leaning towards kakuzu.

Basically the only people that kakashi guarantee's a win is against zetsu and hidan

Kakashi can beat Konan too
That 600 billion paper wouldnt be in her arsenal

That was her 1 time in that area in the rain village

And remember She lured Tobi there cause he still trusted her

Kakashi should beat her much easier than Hidan