Kakashi could have beaten Pain.

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No he couldnt your mad.

Tell me how Deva could avoide Kamui!!

 

[Da Best Ever]

Well Akamaki clan just waste his plan, he was doing well alone.Kakashi was going to beat these 2 path but Choji's clan wasted everything.

Ashura path was paralyzed from raiton kage bunshin and Tendou was unable to use ST for 5s, that's why Kakashi prepared a raikiri.

Kishi always give Kakashi the role to babysitting others .

u are misguided...kakashi was glad they showed up because he barely had any chakra left, and u think a raikiri would have beaten deva pain that took blows from a 4-5 tails kyuubi and if im not mistaken kakashi tried a raikiri on deva pain when the fight first started and deva pain weaved that mutha ****a...#Solo

 

[Fair Warning]

Tell me how Deva could avoide Kamui!!

"Shinra Tensei"

konoha destroyed

 

[Aomine Daiki]

i think he could have won if he didnt use the lightning hound tech and instead of the lightningclone use a shadowclone. that way he could have saved alot of his chakra and use Kamui more. he was stressed and the akimichi guys f*cked up too

 

[Da Best Ever]

Tell me how Deva could avoide Kamui!!

he can disrupt it with bash'o tenin or s/t...kakashi still has to build up the chakra in his eye and still has to aim, and even large targets like the gedo statue kakashi takes a while to finally hone in on it...

 

[BlacLord™]

He didn't win because Kakashi doesn't just Kamui snipe people the way people make him out to do. Either way, couldn't Deva interrupt Kamui by hitting Kakashi with a Bansho Tenin?

Without intel, he wouldn't know about it.

OT: Kakashi did go about it wrong, he put off using the Mangekyou too little too late.

 

[chintu234]

"Shinra Tensei"

konoha destroyed

shinra tensei takes alot of time to go up in the air and start the gravitational pull, that gives enuf time to kakashi to raikiri him but the akamichi guys seriously ****ed up his plan.

 

[Da Best Ever]

He couldn't have won back then, though he still almost managed to do so.
Here's why he wouldn't:
1. His Kamui and stamina weren't as good as they are now.
2. Akimichi ruined his plan of taking care of one path that Kakashi said himself he would have taken care of. Because of this that body was not hit hard enough and later interfered against Deva.
3. He didn't have counters to RInnegan techniques (well, he didn't even know what they were at that point)

Right now, Kakashi's mastered Kamui, has decent stamina, knowledge of all Rinnegan techniques and according to what he and Guy said themselves, counters to them... He would certainly defeat the paths he faced back then.

Though he would most likely lose if he was to face 6 of them at once.
He could kamui two of them at the beginning, but doing so rapidly would take a toll on his body, which would make him an easy target for the rest of them. Unless he teleports to kamuiland to rest a little and then comes back, but first of all, I dunno if it doesn't count as forfeiting the fight, and second of all, why would Pain just stand in the same place and wait for him to return?

Oh, and just to make it clear - two paths were enough to take Kakashi down only because the strongest one, who kept up with 6-tailed Naruto all by himself, was one of them.
It's likely that Kakashi would have been able to solo even 4 or 5 of the paths if Deva wasn't among them. I'm not certain of it, but it's a possibility. What I am certain of, however, is that Kakashi would have won if there was any other path instead of Deva he had to fight.

guy and kakashi said konoha had counters for them which means it would take konoha's shinobi not just guy and kakashi to counter the 6 paths techs...


u guys fail to realize deva path was fast enough to out run a 4-5 tail kyuubi which kakashi is not, deva path had enough power to destroy konoha, he had already showed he was better than kakashi, that pein with only 1 tech was greater than kakashi who has said to copy over 1000...thats a damn shame...

 

[Da Best Ever]

shinra tensei takes alot of time to go up in the air and start the gravitational pull, that gives enuf time to kakashi to raikiri him but the akamichi guys seriously ****ed up his plan.

i can tell u have minimum knowledge of narutoverse since u said something like this...shinra tensei has many different scales the one deva path used to destroy konoha took a long time because of the magnitude of it, and he went into the air just to add effect of him being godly and to cover a wider area...deva used st on kakashi and the akimichi clan members who were present already and several times...

 

[Da Best Ever]

Without intel, he wouldn't know about it.

OT: Kakashi did go about it wrong, he put off using the Mangekyou too little too late.

deva clearly was better than kakashi with or without the ms all kakashi has is kamui, and deva can disrupt it with st...u guys put your faith in kakashi because of the kamui but what has he kamui, 2 arms(deidara's arm and the gedo statue arm)...

 

[Da Best Ever]

He couldn't have won back then, though he still almost managed to do so.
Here's why he wouldn't:
1. His Kamui and stamina weren't as good as they are now.
2. Akimichi ruined his plan of taking care of one path that Kakashi said himself he would have taken care of. Because of this that body was not hit hard enough and later interfered against Deva.
3. He didn't have counters to RInnegan techniques (well, he didn't even know what they were at that point)

Right now, Kakashi's mastered Kamui, has decent stamina, knowledge of all Rinnegan techniques and according to what he and Guy said themselves, counters to them... He would certainly defeat the paths he faced back then.

Though he would most likely lose if he was to face 6 of them at once.
He could kamui two of them at the beginning, but doing so rapidly would take a toll on his body, which would make him an easy target for the rest of them. Unless he teleports to kamuiland to rest a little and then comes back, but first of all, I dunno if it doesn't count as forfeiting the fight, and second of all, why would Pain just stand in the same place and wait for him to return?

Oh, and just to make it clear - two paths were enough to take Kakashi down only because the strongest one, who kept up with 6-tailed Naruto all by himself, was one of them.
It's likely that Kakashi would have been able to solo even 4 or 5 of the paths if Deva wasn't among them. I'm not certain of it, but it's a possibility. What I am certain of, however, is that Kakashi would have won if there was any other path instead of Deva he had to fight.

so u mean to tell me kakashi can beat animal path that has a giant bird/giant rhino/giant panda/3 giant centipedes/giant invisible chameleon/and a giant respawning and multilying dog+asura path and his multple body parts and canons, i dnt even think anymore of the paths is needed to beat kakashi, he has no way of beating all of animal paths summons because he cant beat the dog at all...animal path by itself could beat kakashi

 

[Tendou00]

u are misguided...kakashi was glad they showed up because he barely had any chakra left, and u think a raikiri would have beaten deva pain that took blows from a 4-5 tails kyuubi and if im not mistaken kakashi tried a raikiri on deva pain when the fight first started and deva pain weaved that mutha ****a...#Solo

You have to reread the manga.If kakashi was glad that they showed up it doesn't change the fact that they wasted his plan and made him use kamui to babysitting and sacrify himself instead of use it on Pain.

When he was alone he was going just fine and could end Tendou with raikiri because he was unaware of real Kakashi's location and unable to use ST and Ashura was paralyzed.And we saw Kakashi preparing a raikiri to end it but Choji's clan wasted the plan.

Naruto owned Tendou with a rasengan, raikiri is largelly enough don't underestimate Kakashi.

 

[Da Best Ever]

You have to reread the manga.If kakashi was glad that they showed up it doesn't change the fact that they wasted his plan and made him use kamui to babysitting and sacrify himself instead of use it on Pain.

When he was alone he was going just fine and could end Tendou with raikiri because he was unaware of real Kakashi's location and unable to use ST and Ashura was paralyzed.And we saw Kakashi preparing a raikiri to end it but Choji's clan wasted the plan.

Naruto owned Tendou with a rasengan, raikiri is largelly enough don't underestimate Kakashi.

u have to reread the manga because u made it seem as if things were getting better for him without them because it wasnt getting any better and would only get worse...he was glad they came and u do realize whether he used kamui or not from the start he would have still lost because st can disrupt it and kakashi couldnt touch deva pain anyway, deva painwas even physically stronger and faster than kakashi...

 

[Da Best Ever]

You have to reread the manga.If kakashi was glad that they showed up it doesn't change the fact that they wasted his plan and made him use kamui to babysitting and sacrify himself instead of use it on Pain.

When he was alone he was going just fine and could end Tendou with raikiri because he was unaware of real Kakashi's location and unable to use ST and Ashura was paralyzed.And we saw Kakashi preparing a raikiri to end it but Choji's clan wasted the plan.

Naruto owned Tendou with a rasengan, raikiri is largelly enough don't underestimate Kakashi.

kakashi tried to use raikiri on deva at the start of the fight and kakashi looked into his eyes and shitted on himself and deva weaved the raikiri...did u forget that

 

[Takos]

kakashi tried to use raikiri on deva at the start of the fight and kakashi looked into his eyes and shitted on himself and deva weaved the raikiri...did u forget that

What fanfiction do you read? This sounds interesting.
By the way, if I may suggest you, also try reading the "Naruto" manga. It's pretty fun as well.

 

[Da Best Ever]

What fanfiction do you read? This sounds interesting.
By the way, if I may suggest you, also try reading the "Naruto" manga. It's pretty fun as well.

so when kakashi used the earth style wall and used raikiri did he not look into deva paths eyes and deva path weaved that damn raikiri and then deva path stuck kakashi with a black rod...i can tell u how the entire fight went...need i keep going...this thread itself is based on what ifs and fanism....u are the ones speaking out of your asses..#Levels

 

[Fountain]

A rasengan that didn't do shit to an already messed up kakashi, Destroyed pain, Who had like a 100 times more chakara than him, And you're gonna tell me raikiri has no effect on him? Lоl kakashi would pop up from somewhere and pierce him like butter. All he needs to do is take it seriously and come up with one those plans of his.

It's definitely possible, And with current kakashi, even more.

 

[Da Best Ever]

A rasengan that didn't do shit to an already messed up kakashi, Destroyed pain, Who had like a 100 times more chakara than him, And you're gonna tell me raikiri has no effect on him? Lоl kakashi would pop up from somewhere and pierce him like butter. All he needs to do is take it seriously and come up with one those plans of his.

It's definitely possible, And with current kakashi, even more.

nobody said raikiri wouldnt affect him, i said kakashi used raikiri onced and it was dodged point blank range...

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

but he didn't.

 

[Takos]

nobody said raikiri wouldnt affect him, i said kakashi used raikiri onced and it was dodged point blank range...

That's because Kakashi looked directly in the eyes which caught him in a genjutsu. A genjutsu that didn't do much, really, but was enough for Deva to dodge.