Kakashi and his kamui(SPOILERS)

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Kishi finally de-hyped Kamui. I must say that i was among the people who believed that Kakashi could warp an entire Tailed Beast like Hachibi with his chakra alone, so i must apologize for that since this chapter proved me wrong, but still this chapter also helped me to understand the capacity of Kakashi's kamui further and it's for that reason that i decided to create this thread. Not saying i'm perfect in explaining things, so i'll only try my best and explain my understanding of the jutsu. Hope you enjoy reading though :)

On the pic below, Kakashi says that his kamui capacity after receiving Kyubi's chakra , increased to the point that he was able to use a kamui 3times bigger than what he is usually capable to do:

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What does it mean? It means that with Kyubi's chakra, the size of his kamui was 3times bigger. Now when you take into consideration the fact that his 3time bigger Kamui was able to warp Hachibi, it also means that under normal circumstances, the size of his kamui can allow him to warp things 3times smaller than Hachibi.

Notice also that Kakashi differenciate his size capacity of his of the number of kamui use, which means that there is no relationship between the size of the kamui he is able to create and the number of time he is able to use it. It's the limitation of the size of one of his kamui use that he is talking about here

Furtheremore, when Kakashi says it's 3times stronger there, as i said, he is talking about the size of the kamui he is able to create. Which means that under normal circumstances, he is able to create a kamui 3times smaller than the size of the one he used to warp Hachibi thanks to Kyubi chakra. Unless you think that there are plenty of things existing who are bigger than 1/3 of Hachibi, i don't see where it changes that much. This is Hachibi's size compared to normal humans

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Do you look how big he is? So if the size of Kakashi's Kamui can allow him to warp 1/3 of this Hachibi at once, it's still overpowered unless you think that there are plenty of things bigger than 1/3 of Hachibi? I don't think so

Besides that, like i've stated earlier, Kakashi differenciated the size of his normal Kamui with the number of time he is capable of using it. Proof of that is that after receiving Kyubi's chakra, he used Kamui 3times(one to warp himself back from the Kamui dimension, and 2times to warp Hachibi in and out of kamui dimension). So it means that he can use kamuis plenty of times regardless of the size. It's only the size of his kamui which is smaller without Kyubi's chakra
 
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well i pridict he would use it when naruto throws his next rasen shokrin and goes to the other dimension and kills obito there.
 

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I also thought he was warping Bijuu's after being fully recovered by the kyuubi, but it looks like he also got powered up. It doesn't completely dehype him since he still used Kaumi a load of times before then and being able to warp something a third of the 8 tails is still op.
 

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I also thought he was warping Bijuu's after being fully recovered by the kyuubi, but it looks like he also got powered up. It doesn't completely dehype him since he still used Kaumi a load of times before then and being able to warp something a third of the 8 tails is still op.
Of course, he used Kamui before receiving Kyubi's chakra, but it's not the point of the thread. My thread talks about the size capacity of his kamui under normal circumstances which was smh explained in this chapter
 

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And in Contrary to one of your threads itachi is very much above him.

also note he said At least 3 times more powerful.
so thread invalid
 

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you are right but i think he can warp thing as big as 2/3 hatchibi not 1/3 as he warped hatchibi 2 times with kuarma chakara which make his kamui stronger 3x 2 times/3 =2/3
 

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yeah bogard i remember you saying this on the kakashi and pain thread
so kakashi cannot fully warp all of pains summons while saving himself
 

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And in Contrary to one of your threads itachi is very much above him.

also note he said At least 3 times more powerful.
so thread invalid
And who are you to say if my thread is valid or not? Which alt are you btw?
 

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And who are you to say if my thread is valid or not? Which alt are you btw?

That's rich coming from you minator.

and don't worry about the last chapter prooving you wrong.
because just about all of your posts are wank.
 
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As the guy said, at LEAST 3 times more, he's saying he isn't sure, it definitely could be more
 

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As the guy said, at LEAST 3 times more, he's saying he isn't sure, it definitely could be more
Still he rated that at something like 3 which means from his point of view it's around it, and something as big as 1/3 or even 1/4 of Hachibi are rare in this manga
 

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it really doesn't matter.... whether its 3x or 4x .. kakashi can still kamui a full human... maybe even a summoning..
he just can't kamui bijuu's...
 

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it really doesn't matter.... whether its 3x or 4x .. kakashi can still kamui a full human... maybe even a summoning..
he just can't kamui bijuu's...
Well you just say the point of my thread :p
 

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Still he rated that at something like 3 which means from his point of view it's around it, and something as big as 1/3 or even 1/4 of Hachibi are rare in this manga

look dude just becasue kakashi has prooved himself to be a good suuport ninja.
doesn't make him top tier, he's still never had a proper fight without being saved, or vs pain killed.
Kumai so far hasn't one shotted anyone like you say it can.
 

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OP that isn't what kakashi means.
Perhaps reading the *********** might make it clearer.

He doesn't mean because kurama's chakra made him 3 times stronger that means without it he can use kamui the size of 1/3 of the hachibi. Either my English is lacking or something is wrong.

Do however believe that kakashi can warp the hachibi without kurama's chakra. However it would leave him with 0 reserves.
Like your damage control threads though ;)

This is so true, notice he made another thread wanking minato unnesicarly after everyone is saying Naruto > minato.
which by the way bogard was confirmed a couple of years ago.
 

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Kishi finally de-hyped Kamui. I must say that i was among the people who believed that Kakashi could warp an entire Tailed Beast like Hachibi with his chakra alone, so i must apologize for that since this chapter proved me wrong, but still this chapter also helped me to understand the capacity of Kakashi's kamui further and it's for that reason that i decided to create this thread. Not saying i'm perfect in explaining things, so i'll only try my best and explain my understanding of the jutsu. Hope you enjoy reading though :)

On the pic below, Kakashi says that his kamui capacity after receiving Kyubi's chakra , increased to the point that he was able to use a kamui 3times bigger than what he is usually capable to do:

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What does it mean? It means that with Kyubi's chakra, the size of his kamui was 3times bigger. Now when you take into consideration the fact that his 3time bigger Kamui was able to warp Hachibi, it also means that under normal circumstances, the size of his kamui can allow him to warp things 3times smaller than Hachibi.

Notice also that Kakashi differenciate his size capacity of his of the number of kamui use, which means that there is no relationship between the size of the kamui he is able to create and the number of time he is able to use it. It's the limitation of the size of one of his kamui use that he is talking about here

Furtheremore, when Kakashi says it's 3times stronger there, as i said, he is talking about the size of the kamui he is able to create. Which means that under normal circumstances, he is able to create a kamui 3times smaller than the size of the one he used to warp Hachibi thanks to Kyubi chakra. Unless you think that there are plenty of things existing who are bigger than 1/3 of Hachibi, i don't see where it changes that much. This is Hachibi's size compared to normal humans

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Do you look how big he is? So if the size of Kakashi's Kamui can allow him to warp 1/3 of this Hachibi at once, it's still overpowered unless you think that there are plenty of things bigger than 1/3 of Hachibi? I don't think so

Besides that, like i've stated earlier, Kakashi differenciated the size of his normal Kamui with the number of time he is capable of using it. Proof of that is that after receiving Kyubi's chakra, he used Kamui 3times(one to warp himself back from the Kamui dimension, and 2times to warp Hachibi in and out of kamui dimension). So it means that he can use kamuis plenty of times regardless of the size. It's only the size of his kamui which is smaller without Kyubi's chakra

Read the page, kakashi clearly says that kurama made his kamui 3x stronger. He said he was able to move bigger objects and move things more often.
 

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OP that isn't what kakashi means.
Perhaps reading the *********** might make it clearer.

He doesn't mean because kurama's chakra made him 3 times stronger that means without it he can use kamui the size of 1/3 of the hachibi. Either my English is lacking or something is wrong.

Do however believe that kakashi can warp the hachibi without kurama's chakra. However it would leave him with 0 reserves.
Like your damage control threads though ;)
The error is in the bolded part. He didn't say Kyubi's chakra made him stronger, but "it". The "it" here is a reference to his kamui, the size of the jutsu ;) Thanks for your reply anyway :)
 

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do you think kakashi got healed here



kamui is still hax i guess
 

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Read the page, kakashi clearly says that kurama made his kamui 3x stronger. He said he was able to move bigger objects and move things more often.
Well i believe the bigger the kamui, the stronger it is. So it literally means that the size of his kamui was 3times bigger after taking Kyubi's chakra
 

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it will be alot clearler when the proper translation comes out.

so calm down bogard, and stop getting a boner, every time your precious minato or kakshi gets dehyped.
 
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