Kakashi #1 in the Manga

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In theory, with the speed at which he uses kamui, kakashi should be able to 1-shot any ninja in the series.

Proof: Kakashi kamui'd a sus arrow from sasuke, after it had been shot at him. He says something like 'I had no time to dodge, I had to use kamui.' This is very important.

This means that kamui is faster then you can dodge, so long as you are slower then kakashi. Of course there are plenty of characters faster then kakashi, but every single one that isn't is 1-shot by kamui. Characters around the same speed as kakashi also suffer from this. Going off the databook, this means anyone with a speed stat less then 3 dies instantly. Arguably, since kamui is FASTER then kakashi can dodge, even characters with speeds of 3.5 and 4 might be too slow. However that is conjuncture at this point.

Even if the other character is faster then kakashi, even just using kamui on the persons heart, or part of their head, or major arteries would kill instantly. It took kakashi a long time to cast kamui on the juubis head, I think the larger the target the longer it takes. Likewise, the smaller the target, the faster he can use kamui. If the person is like naruto, and already has clones out or is like A and is already moving around at high speeds then yes, kakashi is in trouble. A smart kakashi would just kamui himself, wait a few hours and then kamui back into a hiding position and take out the target before they knew where he was. All it takes is an instant.

If both characters start off standing still, or kakashi even has a fraction of a second for a surprise attack, kakashi wins.

The only person this wouldn't work on is obito. However, this is an insta-kill to every other person in this manga. So kakashi is #1.

EDIT: Kakashi is also weak to invisible characters but I don't want to do an entire vs for those cases.
EDIT2: Amazeballs pointed out that kakashi could likely see invisible characters with the sharingan, as demonstrated by obito in kakashi-gaiden.
 
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Kakshi is a suuport ninja.

who has never won a fight on his own.
 

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Yea he's number one at getting owned
 

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Please don't make me hate Kakashi fanboys. I like Kakashi sensei but fanboyism like this will degrade Kakashis' reputation. He is in top 10 but there are at least 9 other shinobi that is stronger than him. Besides he doesn't need to be strong to be a cool character that everyone like.
 

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here we go again....and I thought this nightmare was finally over months ago
 

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dude kakashi aint number 1, he could'nt beat pein, and besides i thought kamui only lasts for five mins?!
 

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Shinobi aren't meant to go head-on. Or to start in front of each other.

But your right to a great extend. Substitution justu, wait for an opponent to get close by, change back and Kamui to the faces would work... in theory.

But you know why he will NEVER be number 1 in the manga? Plot isn't on his side. Plot no jutsu>>>>>>>kamui 10 out of 10.
 

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Please don't make me hate Kakashi fanboys. I like Kakashi sensei but fanboyism like this will degrade Kakashis' reputation. He is in top 10 but there are at least 9 other shinobi that is stronger than him. Besides he doesn't need to be strong to be a cool character that everyone like.

Kakashi is number #1 if you do not include edo tensei (I think it's bs to do a 1 v 1 + 30 immortal ninjas) and if edos are excluded from the list.

Madara? dies instantly.
Hashirama? dies instantly.
Kabuto? dies instantly unless he's already in dsm and dsm allows him to sense kamui.
Sasuke? dies instantly.
Itachi? dies instantly unless he has yata up and it protects him from s/t.
Minato? dies instantly unless he has ftg kunai around already or he can sense kamui and dodge.
Naruto? dies instantly uness he has clones out or is moving around at high speeds already.
Gaara? dead
Tsundre? dead
Temari? dead

These a few characters considered top 10 but they don't stand a chance vs kakashi.
 

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Koto One shots....Having an OP technique doesn't make you the strongest. This is probably just a troll thread anyway.
 
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Yeah but there is a difference between an arrow comming at you and an enimy running around see kakashi vs. daidara - you don't just simply 1-shot a skilled ninja...
 

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Maybe "Kamui #1 in the Manga", I like Kakashi, but you are assuming he can teleport himself without Kurama's chakra. You are also assuming that Kamui can teleport organs and even arteries, while the only jutsu that has shown to affect someone on that level is Naruto's Rasen-Shuriken, which was not even accurate (I mean in that, Naruto can't choose to cut only 1 organ/artery/chakra connection)
 

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Thanks to Kurumas chakra restoring him 3 times
manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.you
kakshi here took kuaram chakra
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here shikamaru's father named times which kakshi did with kuaram chakra and manga showed where kakashi took chakra for the first time
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kakashi before kuarma chakra used kamui 6 times with 2 light chain,3 raiki,2 shadow clone,earth wall,after his fight with sword men

so kakashi with full chakra and without other jutus can use kamui at least 10 time
 

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Yeah but there is a difference between an arrow comming at you and an enimy running around see kakashi vs. daidara - you don't just simply 1-shot a skilled ninja...

Kakashi was simply inexperienced at that point. I agree it's different on some level, but you need to time the kamui perfectly or else you will miss the arrow. Anyway the point is that kumai acts faster then a person can move to get out of the way.
 

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they have to mentally think how they want to influence kakashi with koto before it can be used. dead before they have a chance.

It can be done after the genjutsu is established.
 
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