[Discussion] Kaido is not the strongest character.

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Ok I want to clarify this, It seems that people believe that Kaido is the strongest One Piece character, because he is the strongest creature alive, but this is an a wrong interpretation.
But that does not mean that Kaido is the strongest character, he is the physically strongest living creature because no one kill him, he has the most powerful and resistant body among all characters, that the point.
We know that Kaido it was defeated and captured several times

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Just because he can not be killed doesn't mean he cant be defeat.
If you watch Hunter X Hunter you can see that Uvogin is the strongest physically member from the Phantom Troupe, but doesn't mean he is more stronger than Chrollo, its a fact.

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And also hoe can Kaido be more strong than Whitbeard when the old man was the strongest pirate alive and the top pirate era?
And I supose after Luffy will defeat him will become the strongest character and One Piece will end

 

[Passerby]

No one should take you seriously with that username. And I know you're a Shanks fap boy lol

Manga and Oda have both stated that Kaido is the strongest alive. End of discussion.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

No one should take you seriously with that username. And I know you're a Shanks fap boy lol

Manga and Oda have both stated that Kaido is the strongest alive. End of discussion.

1. Our Lord Sasuke is for fun, I am not a real fanboy.
2. Where did you see Shanks name in all what I said? :lol

 

[Tantalus Thief]

No one should take you seriously with that username. And I know you're a Shanks fap boy lol

Manga and Oda have both stated that Kaido is the strongest alive. End of discussion.

but do you find it weird how he's called the strongest yet he was defeated and captured several times. Not very knowledgable on OP stuff btw.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

but do you find it weird how he's called the strongest yet he was defeated and captured several times. Not very knowledgable on OP stuff btw.

He can not be killed doesn't mean he cant be defeat.

 

[ToshiZO]

but do you find it weird how he's called the strongest yet he was defeated and captured several times. Not very knowledgable on OP stuff btw.

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He's suicidal, he literally wants someone to try and kill him. He went alone and challenged the Navy/ Yonkous. Proof of this is how he is the only Yonkou to ever be completely separated from his crew, when he fell. That is unprecedented as a Yonkou, usually your crew does everything to guarantee the Captain's safety, you aren't even allowed to go near the Captain, but Kaidou walks around with no worry, and no one seems to care.

Nowhere was it stated or implied he was defeated 1v1 in his prime.

Then to top it off you have this statement. Which actually implies otherwise.

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[Our Lord Sasuke]

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He's suicidal, he literally wants someone to try and kill him. He went alone and challenged the Navy/ Yonkous. Proof of this is how he is the only Yonkou to ever be completely separated from his crew, when he fell. That is unprecedented as a Yonkou, usually your crew does everything to guarantee the Captain's safety, you aren't even allowed to go near the Captain, but Kaidou walks around with no worry, and no one seems to care.

Nowhere was it stated or implied he was defeated 1v1 in his prime.

Then to top it off you have this statement. Which actually implies otherwise.

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Bu after Luffy will defeat him will become the strongest character and One Piece will end? I dont think so

 

[ToshiZO]

Bu after Luffy will defeat him will become the strongest character and One Piece will end? I dont think so

Why does it matter? If Luffy defeats any Yonkou in a 1v1 it means he might as well be in the conversation for strongest character and One Piece would be ending anyway.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Why does it matter? If Luffy defeats any Yonkou in a 1v1 it means he might as well be in the conversation for strongest character and One Piece would be ending anyway.

Its not One Piece style, we still have Shanks, Teach, Admirals, Gorosei after Kaido.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Delete this thread. Kaido is currently the strongest char.

Kaido is hyped up to be strong for Yonko tiers. WB at Marineford who is weaker than any current Yonko except Big Mom was handling all 3 admirals. Kaido would defeat Marineford WB no doubt about it. That alone suggest that Kaido is stronger than all the Admirals and other Yonko.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Delete this thread. Kaido is currently the strongest char.

Kaido is hyped up to be strong for Yonko tiers. WB at Marineford who is weaker than any current Yonko except Big Mom was handling all 3 admirals. Kaido would defeat Marineford WB no doubt about it. That alone suggest that Kaido is stronger than all the Admirals and other Yonko.

After will Luffy kick his ass, Kaido hype will despair just like Obito final villain lol
OT: Stronger than Akainu?

 

[TRE MERCER]

After will Luffy kick his ass, Kaido hype will despair just like Obito final villain lol
OT: Stronger than Akainu?

What is this suppose to mean? Luffy will beat anyone that gets in his way since he's the main char so irrelevant claim. It's obvious Kaido isn't even going to be the final Villain BB is. Kaido is currently the strongest char until BB shows his new feats.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Delete this thread. Kaido is currently the strongest char.

Kaido is hyped up to be strong for Yonko tiers. WB at Marineford who is weaker than any current Yonko except Big Mom was handling all 3 admirals. Kaido would defeat Marineford WB no doubt about it. That alone suggest that Kaido is stronger than all the Admirals and other Yonko.

Even though Kaido is the current #1 as stated by Oda & the manga....

1. Huge underestimation of Big Mom
2. WB was not handling all 3 admirals. All 3 got the better of him in a 1v1. If even 2 fought WB at once, WB be screwed beyond belief.
3. Old WB was still the strongest.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

but do you find it weird how he's called the strongest yet he was defeated and captured several times. Not very knowledgable on OP stuff btw.

You do realize that Kaido's power level has changed throughout his life, right?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Even though Kaido is the current #1 as stated by Oda & the manga....

1. Huge underestimation of Big Mom
2. WB was not handling all 3 admirals. All 3 got the better of him in a 1v1. If even 2 fought WB at once, WB be screwed beyond belief.
3. Old WB was still the strongest.

1- Big mom isn't being underrated for the following reasons.( She's not going to be stronger than Shanks due to his ties with Luffy. She not going to be stronger than Kaido due to the hype surrounding him plus Oda stated he was the strongest person alive.She not going to be stronger than BB since he'll be Luffy final villain.) Big Mom is the weakest Emperor.

2- Kuzan didn't get the best of WB ever. WB shattered him into the ocean and then nearly killed him with his blade. Akainu didn't get the best of WB as he got left laid out while WB was still standing. Kizaru is the only one who got the best of him.

3- LMAO WB himself admitted he was no longer the strongest plus we've seen Akainu tank a bloodlusted WB attacks thus Kaido tanks the attack with less damage than Akainu. WB was old and half dead at Marineford. Old and Half dead Yonko can't defeat a healthy Yonko since there all on the same tier use common sense.

 

[-Akuma-]

ToshiZo already shat on this not to mention Oda used Kaido as the benchmark for being powerful in a SBS and the question was about Akainu...LOL

 

[Vandenre1ch]

1- Big mom isn't being underrated for the following reasons.( She's not going to be stronger than Shanks due to his ties with Luffy. She not going to be stronger than Kaido due to the hype surrounding him plus Oda stated he was the strongest person alive.She not going to be stronger than BB since he'll be Luffy final villain.) Big Mom is the weakest Emperor.

2- Kuzan didn't get the best of WB ever. WB shattered him into the ocean and then nearly killed him with his blade. Akainu didn't get the best of WB as he got left laid out while WB was still standing. Kizaru is the only one who got the best of him.

3- LMAO WB himself admitted he was no longer the strongest plus we've seen Akainu tank a bloodlusted WB attacks thus Kaido tanks the attack with less damage than Akainu. WB was old and half dead at Marineford. Old and Half dead Yonko can't defeat a healthy Yonko since there all on the same tier use common sense.

1. And? Even by your standards that is no reason to say she is weaker than Old WB you call half-dead. All Yonkou are on par with each other. Even if one is barely stronger than the other, there is no guarantee that the results would be the same every time.

2. Kuzan was unharmed by the gura shockwave and froze the ocean. The first clash was a stalemate.

Kuzan slipped through WB bisento, trapped him and was going to stab him with ice partizans at point blank range. WB had to be saved by Jozu.

WB only got the better of WB because of a distraction and sneak attack but still lost half his face. Even after the 2 point blank gura punches, even Marco with the WB crew wouldn't harm Akainu.

3. WB never said he was no longer the stronger. He said he couldn't be the strongest forever as he is just one man with one heart. Old WB called again & again the strongest alive even in his introduction box and in the narration about his death. Old WB was still the strongest in the world but he wasn't beating any top tier because of his heart condition.

 

[arv993]

1. And? Even by your standards that is no reason to say she is weaker than Old WB you call half-dead. All Yonkou are on par with each other. Even if one is barely stronger than the other, there is no guarantee that the results would be the same every time.

2. Kuzan was unharmed by the gura shockwave and froze the ocean. The first clash was a stalemate.

Kuzan slipped through WB bisento, trapped him and was going to stab him with ice partizans at point blank range. WB had to be saved by Jozu.

WB only got the better of WB because of a distraction and sneak attack but still lost half his face. Even after the 2 point blank gura punches, even Marco with the WB crew wouldn't harm Akainu.

3. WB never said he was no longer the stronger. He said he couldn't be the strongest forever as he is just one man with one heart. Old WB called again & again the strongest alive even in his introduction box and in the narration about his death. Old WB was still the strongest in the world but he wasn't beating any top tier because of his heart condition.

So he's the strongest but he's not gonna win? Nice logic dude, kaido is stronger than old wb. And in all those scenarios where you said admirals got him is after akainu and marines got many hits on the guy not really a fair comparison.It's like asking akainu to fight shanks after he faced Aokiji in his 10 day battle. The Aokiji one wasn't but wb can tank those attacks the guy is more of a tank type due to his bad reflexes and general old age so getting minor hits doesn't really count as being superior.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

So he's the strongest but he's not gonna win? Nice logic dude, kaido is stronger than old wb. And in all those scenarios where you said admirals got him is after akainu and marines got many hits on the guy not really a fair comparison.It's like asking akainu to fight shanks after he faced Aokiji in his 10 day battle. The Aokiji one wasn't but wb can tank those attacks the guy is more of a tank type due to his bad reflexes and general old age so getting minor hits doesn't really count as being superior.

You are generalizing. Situational conditions don't count. WB was the strongest but his heart attacks will screw him over, create opening and cost him fights. Without the heart attacks we would win. Strength isn't fully determined by how much you win. Guys like Jinbe & Ivankov>Magellan but they are not winning because they'd get poisoned. Freaking Mr 3 could hold back Magellan's poison for a short time thanks to his abilities.

Its very complex & gray.

 

[Relostar Devil]

but do you find it weird how he's called the strongest yet he was defeated and captured several times. Not very knowledgable on OP stuff btw.

SHs were also defeated on SA, doesn't mean they are not the strong...