Kahyo VS Hebi Sasuke & Others

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 9, 2016

Kahyo from the Kakashi Hiden novel was a Kunoichi with the Ice Style Kekkai Genkai. Before you think 'ugh, filler character' she was actually pretty f*cking lit.

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Ice Sword was an attack that could follow you like daggers and almost stabbed a Base Naruto if he hadn't been saved and her main jutsu which was crazy OP and powerful. She is the current keeper of Hozuki Castle, bested Hokage Kakashi and apparently packs the power of a Kage level ninja. She also went toe to toe with the Raikage A and pushed him to his strongest attack before the match ended in a friendly tie.

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Ice Release: Earth Chain Ice
The user, either through physical contact or remotely, causes ice particles to form on a target. If used on a living creature, the target will freeze to death unless they are able to mould chakra. By coating themselves with chakra and dedicating all their energy to keeping themselves warm, they can avoid death; if they use their chakra to perform a technique, they will start to rapidly freeze again.

How would she fare against these opponents from these details. Imagine Guren and Haku combined and made Kage level.

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1. Hebi Sasuke (Has Kenjutsu and other means of attack luckily)
2. MS Kakashi (w/ Kamui)
3. Neji Hyuuga

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AnonymousShinobi · Apr 9, 2016

What is stopping Kakashi from Kamui sniping off the start?

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 9, 2016

AnonymousShinobi said:
What is stopping Kakashi from Kamui sniping off the start?

Because remember all those times in the series where he did that? And the foe was just immediately defeated?

AnonymousShinobi · Apr 9, 2016

Bad Touch Yakushi said:
Because remember all those times in the series where he did that? And the foe was just immediately defeated?

You didn't answer my question.

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 9, 2016

AnonymousShinobi said:
You didn't answer my question.

Just seems like in all those life and death situations he's been in he'd just do this right off the bat. Which indicates it's not a thing he considers an option or a viable tactic.

Draegod · Apr 10, 2016

Novels were Cannon since made by kishi from my understanding.

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 10, 2016

Draegod said:
Novels were Cannon since made by kishi from my understanding.

Kishimoto handed over the authority of 'canon'. It's entitled manga fans who feel the need to ruin the fun for themselves by invalidating stuff made for them. It's canon for sure, or at the very least Kishimoto doesn't actually care and considers it part of the Naruto 'verse'.

Draegod · Apr 10, 2016

Bad Touch Yakushi said:
Kishimoto handed over the authority of 'canon'. It's entitled manga fans who feel the need to ruin the fun for themselves by invalidating stuff made for them. It's canon for sure, or at the very least Kishimoto doesn't actually care and considers it part of the Naruto 'verse'.

Im sure this is 99.999% Cannon bro. lol Like you said, based on the "fans" point of veiw and "rules", e personally made it just like the Baruto movie and book, so its Cannon unless he personally states otherwise. He wrote the manga, he wrote the book(s).

NarutoX28 · Apr 10, 2016

Bad Touch Yakushi said:
Because remember all those times in the series where he did that? And the foe was just immediately defeated?

He attempted to do it on Obito, but Obito possesses the only counter to it which is why it failed.

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 10, 2016

NarutoX28 said:
He attempted to do it on Obito, but Obito possesses the only counter to it which is why it failed.

Tried it on other enemies too, didn't work. Deidara attack was meant to finish him no?

Selan · Apr 10, 2016

Bad Touch Yakushi said:
Tried it on other enemies too, didn't work. Deidara attack was meant to finish him no?

Kakashi just learned how to use Kamui at the Start of Part 2. He mastered it by the time of War Arc, when he was praised even by freaking Madara Uchiha for his dojutsu usage.

NarutoX28 · Apr 11, 2016

Bad Touch Yakushi said:
Tried it on other enemies too, didn't work. Deidara attack was meant to finish him no?

He lacked mastery over Kamui at the time and was in motion which makes Chakra Control even more difficult.

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 11, 2016

Selan said:
Kakashi just learned how to use Kamui at the Start of Part 2. He mastered it by the time of War Arc, when he was praised even by freaking Madara Uchiha for his dojutsu usage.

Then for the sake of the argument Kamui is restricted to defense purposes only.

Unorthodox · Apr 14, 2016

Hebi Sasuke wrecks him

Bad Touch Yakushi · Apr 16, 2016

Unorthodox said:
Hebi Sasuke wrecks him

*Her and also read the jutsu this girl has man, she pushed the Raikage and is Kage tier...she even bested Kakashi. It's definitely not certain

Claymantan · May 10, 2016

Rezzing this because I just finished the novel, and I think you exaggerated Kahyo's abilities.

Gai/Kakashi were escaping her ice daggers while crawling around in vents. Naruto wasn't really even concerned with trying to dodge her ice daggers since Sai was there to extract him, and I mean, I'm sure Naruto can move faster than Sai's Beast Imitating Art can, as can xD. Naruto was also trying to extract a target, not fight her.

It's outright stated that Ay wasn't going full throttle, even though he pulled out Lariat. D: It's not even stated that he went into V1. She bested Kakashi because she'd casted her jutsu on him a while before they had even had their fight. Granted, she has to have decent reflexes to dodge even a non-V2 Ay. I wouldn't put her at, say, War Arc Sakura level, though.

Earth Chains Ice seems to be a close-ranged jutsu even without physical contact since everyone on whom she casted it in the whole novel was within a few feet of her. Or else she would probably have used that to try to stop Naruto instead of the ice daggers. It also has a significant weakness; if there's no moisture in the air, she can't use it. Kind of implies that unlike Haku's KKG, her jutsu is more vulnerable to things like heat.

So with that in mind:

Hebi slaughters her. Didn't even need to really examine her feats to claim this; she's not reacting to his Shunshin and Katon deals with her Ice. He can just genjutsu her anyway. And with Sharingan, he shouldn't even fall for the ice jutsu (should be able to see the chakra).

MS Kakashi slaughters her for the same reasons as the above.

War Arc Neji's chakra control should be good enough to counter her main jutsu and still fight with Taijutsu. Theoretically, he should also be able to remove the effects of her jutsu with something like Kaiten.