Not necessarily, due to the younger son possessing a similar ability to BM which in Naruto's and Minato's case was a cause of the Uzumaki sealing on Kurama, then than would mean that Ashura is Uzumaki, which is false because senju are direct descendant of Ashura. They can't be descendants of Ashura because Uzumaki and Senju are distant relatives, meaning that they are most likely related to Kaguya.
Not necessarily, due to the younger son possessing a similar ability to BM which in Naruto's and Minato's case was a cause of the Uzumaki sealing on Kurama, then than would mean that Ashura is Uzumaki, which is false because senju are direct descendant of Ashura. They can't be descendants of Ashura because Uzumaki and Senju are distant relatives, meaning that they are most likely related to Kaguya.
That's a fallacy called argument from ignorance. It's never stated in the manga how distant they are as relatives. You are assuming that it's as distant as possible and converting your assumption into fact when it's not.
Until the manga says so, please do not call Kaguya a Uzumaki in titles as it's misleading for the majority of the crowd.
That's a fallacy called argument from ignorance. It's never stated in the manga how distant they are as relatives. You are assuming that it's as distant as possible and converting your assumption into fact when it's not.
Until the manga says so, please do not call Kaguya a Uzumaki in titles as it's misleading for the majority of the crowd.
That is why this thread is under the "Theory" section. And you said it yourself, it is never stated how distant, but if you actually read the manga and have some common sense you can see that Uzumaki are not descendant of Ashura, that would be the Senju, hence the distant relative remark.
I am entitle to my opinion of Calling Kaguya what ever I want, and I see that you didnt read my thread because I said Uzumaki ancestor not Uzumaki. I make it very clear in the first sentence of my thread.
You are the one being ignorant for not reading my thread correctly, for insulting another member on this site, and for lowering the IQ of the entire base by saying it confuses members without fully grasping the concept of the thread.
My thread confuses no one, we are not children.
The possibility of Kaguya being an Uzumaki ancestor, note that I am not saying she was Uzumaki rather the ancestor of Uzumaki is a high possibility. Note that the Uzumaki are known for their sealing techniques.
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Notice that Naruto and Minato used an Uzumaki seal on Kurama and when their transformation is activated they get a very similar power to Ashura, who is the grandson of Kaguya, the possible ancestor of Uzumaki.
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It clearly shows the lineage and sealings of the Uzumaki.
And there is a very similar resemblance of Kaguya to the Reaper Death Seal,
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Notice how there is a aesthetic resemblance in hands, hair, demeanor, and horns/hair. Even the stance itself is very similar.Detail is key when comparing the two beings.
Something that further supports this possibility is what she was called during her time. "Demon" "Rabbit Goddess"
As you have guessed it Demon is a very important title that correlates to the the RDS, that being that appears behind the caster is basically a Demon/Shinigami.
But here is where it gets interesting, her other name is "Rabbit Goddess", my suspicious was peaked back when we saw hieroglyphs of Kaguya
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I felt like I had seen that similar type of hieroglyphs, that's when it hit me. Those hieroglyphs were very similar to Mayan hieroglyps.
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It doesnt stop there, the "Rabbit Goddess" is a deity in the Mayan culture and was revered for her fertility. She was also represent by the Moon which plays a very important role in the Naruto Series. Bare with me because the similarities start to get really good.
Not only is she the Goddess of the Moon but in Mayan culture she is the Grandmother of the Sun. And who might you say is the representative of the Sun in the Naruto Series? You guessed it, its the younger son Ashura.
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And its said that the Sun who is the grandson of the Moon who in this case is Kaguya was harassed by his older brother, which in the Naruto series is the Elder Son Indra who harassed his younger brother and had a rivalry with him. The Sun in Mayan culture is the bringer of vegetation and plant life. When the Moon Goddess dies she gives the older brother of the Sun the status of the Moon god, and in the previous image you can see that Indra represents the moon and Ashura represents the Sun.
Its also said in Mayan culture that the Moon Goddess is the Death God. And we know that the Death God is the RDS used by the Uzumaki and those who were taught the technique. Those are some crazy similarities that one cannot just pass of as coincidence.
Another thing to note is that at that when Kaguya died, due to her Godly powers she clearly didnt really die but became the Goddess of Death through the RDS technique . It further supports that RDS is Kaguya ergo it being a Woman Hannya Demoness. The Fruit made her the most powerful being and notice that the Sage has different interpretations of death, and that the RDS is "Death" while being alive only for Gods or beings with the direct and raw power of the Fruit.
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Death in his time was viewed different.
She is also the goddess of decease, here is where I have a bit of trouble configuring that similarities. In Mayan mythology she altered the earth and created decease. In my opinion the decease or the "alteration of humans due to the change in nature" could be the Cursed Clan where Juugo comes from, his clan in sensible to nature and enter in to a physical transformation similar to Kaguya, but I will leave this theory for some other time.
So that is what I have so far, I still have tons of things to organize and add.
But please comment and tell me what you think about my Theory.
This is what I believe. I believe that the Uzamaki are either the guards or ancestors of Kaguya. What I can come to conclude is that the Uzamaki must have sealed Kaguya into the mask that is used to bring her out and release anything that is sealed within her belly. Kaguya is the Death Demon/Goddess who gave birth to two sons who inherently was born with strong chakra. Now I don't know what kind of power the other brother had but it had to be something awesome looking at how Rikudo was born with the Rinnegan because of what his mother did when she ate the fruit.
Now that we know about Ashura it now makes total sense as to why Naruto has a different mode when using Bijuu Chakra. I believe that we haven't seen the last of Naruto's powerups. From what we have been shown the PS is the top level for a Uchiha power but we haven't seen the limit of the senju power. Now that we know that Naruto is the reincarnated younger son of Rikudo I am expecting something spectacular from Naruto in the next chapter.
The only question is how and from which parent is Naruto linked to Ashura??? I believe that it is through the Uzamaki Clan and that they might be the Clan that Kaguya came from because it is still unknown where the Uzamakis came from before they moved to the Land of the Whirlpools. They have to be older than the Senju or the Uchiha especially since they have the mask that houses the Rikudo's mother who apparently was a very powerful goddess. So my question is how did she get sealed into the mask, how did they get the mask, and if one of her sons were in one of the other masks that was housed in the temple when Orochimaru went to get the RJS Mask.
What I'd like to see is Kaguya not necessarily being Uchiha, Senju, Hyuuga or Uzamaki... but instead, having traits of all four in which she passed down to her two sons. Hagoromo getting the Uchiha and Senju traits and his brother getting the Hyuuga and Uzumaki traits. Hagoromo then passes the Uchiha bloodline to Indra and the Senju bloodline to Ashura. Hagoromo passed the Hyuuga and Uzumaki bloodlines to his unknown daughters.
What I'd like to see is Kaguya not necessarily being Uchiha, Senju, Hyuuga or Uzamaki... but instead, having traits of all four in which she passed down to her two sons. Hagoromo getting the Uchiha and Senju traits and his brother getting the Hyuuga and Uzumaki traits. Hagoromo then passes the Uchiha bloodline to Indra and the Senju bloodline to Ashura. Hagoromo passed the Hyuuga and Uzumaki bloodlines to his unknown daughters.
What I'd like to see is Kaguya not necessarily being Uchiha, Senju, Hyuuga or Uzamaki... but instead, having traits of all four in which she passed down to her two sons. Hagoromo getting the Uchiha and Senju traits and his brother getting the Hyuuga and Uzumaki traits. Hagoromo then passes the Uchiha bloodline to Indra and the Senju bloodline to Ashura. Hagoromo passed the Hyuuga and Uzumaki bloodlines to his unknown daughters.
Seeing the Juubi has sharingan, rinnegan, mokuton and the gedo mazo has huge lifeforce (Juubi probably too) + chakra chains, I find it not likely that Kaguya had all these things as well. But I cant exclude the possiblity.
That is why this thread is under the "Theory" section. And you said it yourself, it is never stated how distant, but if you actually read the manga and have some common sense you can see that Uzumaki are not descendant of Ashura, that would be the Senju, hence the distant relative remark.
I am entitle to my opinion of Calling Kaguya what ever I want, and I see that you didnt read my thread because I said Uzumaki ancestor not Uzumaki. I make it very clear in the first sentence of my thread.
You are the one being ignorant for not reading my thread correctly, for insulting another member on this site, and for lowering the IQ of the entire base by saying it confuses members without fully grasping the concept of the thread.
My thread confuses no one, we are not children.
If you post a theory you need to expect critiscism. If you only expect a bath of flowers then go to DeviantArt. Complaining about it is not a viable solution and accusing me of insulting you only makes it worse.
There is no evidence that the Uzumaki do not descend directly from the Senju. The Uzumaki were unheard of before Hashirama/Madara's lifetimes. There is no mention of the Uzumaki during the lifetime of the So6P, only that his two sons eventually became the Senju and Uchiha. There is no solid evidence from your case, just assumptions based on other assumptions. Your entire thread is still an argument from ignorance, and it would make little sense that Naruto descends from Kaguya.
If you post a theory you need to expect critiscism. If you only expect a bath of flowers then go to DeviantArt. Complaining about it is not a viable solution and accusing me of insulting you only makes it worse.
There is no evidence that the Uzumaki do not descend directly from the Senju. The Uzumaki were unheard of before Hashirama/Madara's lifetimes. There is no mention of the Uzumaki during the lifetime of the So6P, only that his two sons eventually became the Senju and Uchiha. There is no solid evidence from your case, just assumptions based on other assumptions. Your entire thread is still an argument from ignorance, and it would make little sense that Naruto descends from Kaguya.
1- There was no ninjas before Kaguya appears, therefore she has no clan.
2- I think Asura is the ancestor the Senju clan and Senju is the ancestor of Uzumaki. They both have the sage body and great life force.
3- I think the brother of Hagoromo had the Byakugan and he is the ancestor of the Hyuga clan. The Hyuga Clan is one of the oldest and most powerful clans in Konoha, so it is possible.
4- The Rabbit Goddess, Kaguya, is not from outer space. I think the 5 countries are a small part of the planet, similar to Europe. She came from a distance such as that between England and Japan.
But I think she will be the one to activate The Eye of the Moon Plan with her Rinnegan with tomoes.
