[Theory] Kaguya, The Hyuga Curse Seal

[B00m]

Only part I disagree with is Hinata being the only one left, I never saw her father die...yet. And it would be bogus if Neji is resurrected. There is definite holes to the Byakugan and Kaguya being a focus is no coincidence. I almost want to say Hinata might become a victim, only to further Naruto's "development".

She was there for the Pein fight, she was there for Obito messing with Naruto. So it could be safe to say she plays a role for Naruto against Kaguya, who probably is the originator of the Byakugan. I'm beginning to believe Kaguya herself will pull a Nagato given the trouble she caused and her concern for the land, trusting Naruto with the future, with Sasuke jeopardizing it. Just a thought...

 

[Made in Heaven]

^yeah. Kaguya is definitely gonna get tnj-d . I mean if Kishi would do it to males, you can bet yer ass he'll tnj-d a woman

 

[Reraru]

Nice theory I like it. Dattebayo!

 

[EmbraceNixFifty]

Good theory........

 

[Honord Sage]

Kaguya is the Grandmother of the Hyuga,Uzumaki,Senju and Uchiha. Some of Her powers were past to each of the four Clans.

 

[cmoG]

Just thinking about this... When a hyuga dies, doesnt their seal go away? So that means if kabuto decided to, he technically could bring neji back to life. IF YOUR THEORY IS CORRECT NEJI COULD BE THE NEXT KAGUYA?!?!!

Not at all man. Not at all.

 

[ByakuganUser]

Well the Hyuga never once observed using ninjutsu. Ever. Not once. which ties in with the Moon People and Byakugan is the celestial dojutsu concludes that the Byakugan was among the first dojutsu. There's also the fact that Byakugan is something hyugas are naturally born with which same applies to Kaguya.

Hamura was probably the one that started the idea to place the curse seal upon his children and the one who spread the Hyuga the first descendent. He was still kaguya's son and her secrets are his secret. Meaning if you learn how to defeat the byakugan then you've learned how to defeat kaguya halfway. And that would also explain the location of the Hyuga's Curse mark on their forehead

Neji could use body replacement technique and transformation jutsu.

 

[SasukexNeji]

Very good thread!

 

[ninjarasengan]

Hyuga are strongest clan in konoha #mangaphax

Nah, just an arrogant character in the manga boasting...Aburame's would probably cream them. Not to mention how useless they would be facing an Akimichi using super expansion.

 

[ninjarasengan]

Before she ate the fruit, her natural eyes is her Byakugan.

okay, people keep stating this as fact...what proof do you have that Kaguya was born with Byakugan? Please don't try to use scans of Madara explaining her past or Hagoromo's conjured images. One, Madara saw a depiction of her on the Uchiha tablet and two, the only version of Kaguya Hagoromo could show from his memories is the one after she ate the fruit since she ate it before giving birth to him(in her image when Hagoromo was talking about her coming from a far away place.. she had a slit implying she already possessed the third eye and it was closed. That eye is connected to Juubi, thus that image was after she ate the fruit and was not depicting her original appearance)...why couldn't she have just been a normal 'Human' princes who was changed from eating the fruit?

why the heck would she even be born with eyes that require chakra to operate before she even gained access to chakra?

 

[Beautiful Hime]

Nice Theory. I believe, without a doubt, that there is going to be more story to the Hyuga Clan ever sense hearing about Kaguya. This seems legit.

 

[Senjuubi Sage]

Kaguya is the Grandmother of the Hyuga,Uzumaki,Senju and Uchiha. Some of Her powers were past to each of the four Clans.

^^^^^^^^^^^
This right here. good read tho

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Nah, just an arrogant character in the manga boasting...Aburame's would probably cream them. Not to mention how useless they would be facing an Akimichi using super expansion.

No, even you deny the manga facts, people clearly see that the Hyuga solo Aburame clan, The Hyuga are the strongest of the existing clan today meaning it stronger than any konoha leaf meaning Aburame clearly have no Match against them. You underestimated the Hyuga clan and you're one of those ignorant people who can't even read the manga properly...

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Before she ate the fruit, her natural eyes is her Byakugan.

okay, people keep stating this as fact...what proof do you have that Kaguya was born with Byakugan? Please don't try to use scans of Madara explaining her past or Hagoromo's conjured images. One, Madara saw a depiction of her on the Uchiha tablet and two, the only version of Kaguya Hagoromo could show from his memories is the one after she ate the fruit since she ate it before giving birth to him(in her image when Hagoromo was talking about her coming from a far away place.. she had a slit implying she already possessed the third eye and it was closed. That eye is connected to Juubi, thus that image was after she ate the fruit and was not depicting her original appearance)...why couldn't she have just been a normal 'Human' princes who was changed from eating the fruit?

why the heck would she even be born with eyes that require chakra to operate before she even gained access to chakra?

The Byakugan is a genetic trait of whatever species Kaguya is. Since it CLEARlY doesn't come from the juubi.



I''v always suspected that the the Hyuga never once observed using ninjutsu. Ever. Not once. which ties in with the Moon People and Byakugan is the celestial dojutsu concludes that the Byakugan was among the first dojutsu.

If you look at the Juubi carefully, it shows both the Rinnegan and Sharingan in its eye, yet there is no Byakugan mixed in there, implying it is unrelated. If kishi wanted, he could have made juubi's eyelike obito's war mask so to represent all three eyes; tomoes with ripples and a white colour, yet he makes the juubi's eye red instead.

Then there's the fact that sharingan (in MS/EMS state) and rinnegan have demonic powers unlike Byakugan. There's also the fact that Byakugan is something hyugas are naturally born with, while sharingan has to have special chakra sprout in order to awaken while rennigan needs ashura+indra to awaken.

Also, while Rennigan and sharingan can't be deactivated by foreign users, Byakugan can be. It doesn't really mean much, but it once again shows a difference between the byakugan and the other two eyes.

So knowing that Byakugan is almost certainly NOT apart of the juubi, is it really satisfactory to say Kaguya had it and leave it at that? I don't think so, hence why I believe it is an eye that is naturally found in kaguya's species.

I think rennigan, sharingan, and ALL elemental kekkai genkais came from the juubi. I think the only two kekkai genkai that come from Kaguya and/or her species are the Byakugan and kimimaru's bone manipulation

I believe that the Otsutsuki Clan, through practice and meditation was able to harness the true power of the Mind's Eye (Byakugan) causing a Special Chakra to sprout within their Pineal gland. This Chakra was passed down every generations and with there Byakugan they were able to divine Chakra and the Energies of the Body and developed The Gentle Fist as a result.

And so the first Doujutsu was the Byakugan, when activated they open their Mind's Eye which grants them "perception beyond ordinary sight".

Pineal Gland:

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[TRE MERCER]

This is just my mere specualtion

Your so wrong it's not even funny.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Your so wrong it's not even funny.

Well atleast it's plausible that's why we discuss offering free information. You take it and keep in mind or not it's all up to you.

 

[ninjarasengan]

No, even you deny the manga facts, people clearly see that the Hyuga solo Aburame clan, The Hyuga are the strongest of the existing clan today meaning it stronger than any konoha leaf meaning Aburame clearly have no Match against them. You underestimated the Hyuga clan and you're one of those ignorant people who can't even read the manga properly...

Oh I can comprehend it just fine thank you...problem is you are one of those people who take everything a character says at face value(you like being spoon fed)

Just because a character claims to be superior and slaps around some fodders doesn't mean it's true...so how do the hyuuga fight the aburame drained of the chakra they use for their fighting style? What is a hyuuga going to do to a 100 meter Akimichi?

 

[ninjarasengan]

The Byakugan is a genetic trait of whatever species Kaguya is. Since it CLEARlY doesn't come from the juubi.



I''v always suspected that the the Hyuga never once observed using ninjutsu. Ever. Not once. which ties in with the Moon People and Byakugan is the celestial dojutsu concludes that the Byakugan was among the first dojutsu.

If you look at the Juubi carefully, it shows both the Rinnegan and Sharingan in its eye, yet there is no Byakugan mixed in there, implying it is unrelated. If kishi wanted, he could have made juubi's eyelike obito's war mask so to represent all three eyes; tomoes with ripples and a white colour, yet he makes the juubi's eye red instead.

Then there's the fact that sharingan (in MS/EMS state) and rinnegan have demonic powers unlike Byakugan. There's also the fact that Byakugan is something hyugas are naturally born with, while sharingan has to have special chakra sprout in order to awaken while rennigan needs ashura+indra to awaken.

Also, while Rennigan and sharingan can't be deactivated by foreign users, Byakugan can be. It doesn't really mean much, but it once again shows a difference between the byakugan and the other two eyes.

So knowing that Byakugan is almost certainly NOT apart of the juubi, is it really satisfactory to say Kaguya had it and leave it at that? I don't think so, hence why I believe it is an eye that is naturally found in kaguya's species.

I think rennigan, sharingan, and ALL elemental kekkai genkais came from the juubi. I think the only two kekkai genkai that come from Kaguya and/or her species are the Byakugan and kimimaru's bone manipulation

I believe that the Otsutsuki Clan, through practice and meditation was able to harness the true power of the Mind's Eye (Byakugan) causing a Special Chakra to sprout within their Pineal gland. This Chakra was passed down every generations and with there Byakugan they were able to divine Chakra and the Energies of the Body and developed The Gentle Fist as a result.

And so the first Doujutsu was the Byakugan, when activated they open their Mind's Eye which grants them "perception beyond ordinary sight".

Pineal Gland:

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Since it CLEARlY doesn't come from the juubi.

See? This is what i mean you are stating this as fact when we are never told this in the Manga...I have no problem with your theory, the thing i find annoying is that you are stating things as fact and a lot of members are parroting these 'facts' when so far the manga hasn't confirmed said facts.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Oh I can comprehend it just fine thank you...problem is you are one of those people who take everything a character says at face value(you like being spoon fed)

Just because a character claims to be superior and slaps around some fodders doesn't mean it's true...so how do the hyuuga fight the aburame drained of the chakra they use for their fighting style? What is a hyuuga going to do to a 100 meter Akimichi?

No, you have comprehension problem, it's not just that I'm looking at the facts, it's should not debatable when you being analytical and compare the two clans. Of course facts doesn't mean anything as long it makes logical sense, and that's what I'm trying to say.

The Hyuga clan can see the things that most ninja can't and can see in a giant radius with the Byakugan to see Shino's real body, and should see every single bug. If they surround him or suck his chakra he can use Full Body Blow or Kaiten to knock out, destroy them and deflect any attack from the Aburame.


Akimichi advantages:

• 50 meter distance already grants Choji the advantage (since he can expand)
• Akimichi is a lot bigger and stronger
• He is able to use the calorie control without the help of the pills; therefore, he wouldn't be suffering from any devastating side effects

Hyuuga advantages:

• They're alot lighter, therefore, it'll be easier for them to move
• They have good reflex/reaction feats (thanks to the Byakugan); that would enable him to dodge accordingly
• As for Giant Akimichi, Gentle fist is a great counter for giant opponents with high external durability.
• Air Palm, Vacuum Palm should knock out 100m size

I'm gonna use Chouju and Neji as reference

Blood lusted Choji would definitely activate his Calorie Control + Butterfly Bullet Bombing so he can spam attacks on Neji. The build up of chakra all over Choji's body would be apparent to Neji's Byakugan. That already gives him an impression of a possible enhancement in strength and that right there would put him on his guard. Neji should realize the vast difference in their strengths and would make evasion a priority. Also, he should know that since he cannot possibly defeat Choji by means of physical strength, trying to not get caught and evasion by all means necessary is his only option for the moment. Since it's one on one and there's no Shikamaru to help Choji get his opponent in a vulnerable position and since Neji is at least able to fend off things (that would instantly kill him) he can barely see, evasion shouldn't be that difficult.

Choji can use his Super Multi Size technique to be safe- with only the risk of having the whole building to fall apart. So actually, neither of them can benefit from that. Plus, even even without the pills:

Super Multi-Size Technique: However, the abnormally extreme physical change also places a large burden on the user’s body.


When worse comes to worst, with all those falling debris, Kaiten or Hakke Kusho can come to play. Neji can opt to win by outlasting his opponent.

If evasion is futile or if it can't work forever, I don't see why he would still waste his time, effort and chakra in hitting Choji's possibly enlarged tenketsu points or Kaiten, when he can just run into his shoulders to get to his head and blind him or could just simply land a blow on his brain.

Don't forget about the Air Palm and Vacuum Air Palm should able to knock out the the 100 meter super multi size technique because it was able to knock out the Juubi Hands and keep in mind it's 10x larger than the Susanoo.

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Over all Hyuuga wins mid-high difficulty.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Since it CLEARlY doesn't come from the juubi.

See? This is what i mean you are stating this as fact when we are never told this in the Manga...I have no problem with your theory, the thing i find annoying is that you are stating things as fact and a lot of members are parroting these 'facts' when so far the manga hasn't confirmed said facts.

Whoa whoa Slow down buddy, this is just my speculation, when did I ever stated it's a fact. Perhaps I get a bit carried but that just because my theory is 98% plausible when Kishi clearly uses the Princess Kaguya, and the Bamboo moon legend reference which almost lead to my argument about the byakugan which heavenly implied she had the Byakugan before eating the fruit

Anyway, my theory will not remain facts until proven otherwise.