Kaguya taking over Madara would be stupid

[Tantalus Thief]

Does anyone else think Kaguya taking over would be stupid. I think it would be stupid. To paraphrase Esdeath Kaguya is a tale irrelevant for 600+ chapters. While Madara was hinted at in Part 1 as a parallel to Naruto and Sasuke, Itachi mentions him, Obito uses his name, and he comes back in the war. We see his past and how he was the one who turned Obito to his side and influenced him. Plus we see him in Hashirama flashback and his role as someone who helped found Konoha and Hashirama's rival. To sum it up Madara has been a big part of this story and he doesn't deserve to be a tool in the end and he deserves to be the series's final Villain. He has done too much for the role to be given to Kaguya who we only know is a power hungry person and has no relations to the current characters. Madara and Kaguya can work together, Kaguya did say the time to become one has come. Anyone else agree.

 

[-Punk-]

lol Yeah she has no business here u_u .

 

[Limbo]

I agree completely U_U

 

[griffnat13]

Oh I would hate it passionately

 

[jtolliver87]

i dont think she will take him over i believe he will inherit some traits of hers like her bloodlust because even though madara is ruthless he is passive i think he will just become much more violent

 

[HiddenSound]

Just gonna post this here...

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Madara's validity is a villain is over. Through Hagoromo, Masashi Kishimoto ended Madara's chances of being final villain. After he commandeered Obito's final villain role, he has done nothing, but try to obtain hype and validity [killing Sasuke/Naruto/Tobirama/Hashirama]. Now, Hagoromo stated that the power even above him is his mother, who isn't like him at all. He went on to deny that Indra [Madara] was in the wrong, and went on to say that the curse of hatred we have been forced to watch again and again is in actuality, Kaguya's will. This has simply killed his vibe as a villain, and him getting pummeled by Might Gai, Obito, Naruto, and Sasuke isn't helping him. Him seeing Kaguya and stating time for everything to become one has ended any chances of him being villain.

Kaguya is going to take over Madara. He has failed as a villain.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Agreed....

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[Tantalus Thief]

HiddenSound is here, CrytalChakra will follow both support Kaguya taking over

 

[Urda]

Viz Media Translation:

Few interesting things from #673 ["We will...!!"]

Madara: (The node's chakra hasn't gone out? What's going on?
What did he do?

He stopped the eight gates' endgame?!)

[...]

Madara: (Is it because I haven't finished....
...Healing yet?!

No!
His power's suddenly grown?!)

Naruto: (Son! Lend me some chakra, will ya?!!)
Son Goku: (No prob!!)

[...]

Madara: (What?! He evaded....
...The Limbo?!!)

[...]

Naruto: (Explode!!!)

[...]

Shinju: (Take me within you.
Take the divine tree...
...Ten tails, all of me, into you...)

[...]

Tobirama: (He touches Madara's rod but isn't affected?
What happened to him while he was starting to die?)

[...]

Madara: "I see...
The divine tree itself is...

Ha ha ha...

The time when all shall become one has come."

[...]

Gaara: "When you become Hokage...
...Let's share a drink."

[...]

Naruto: (Is it cuz I met super gramps Sage...
...And got power from him?

I can feel it clearly even from here...
...The other half of super gramps' power...)

[...]

Madara: "You cannot take me down.
I am essentially immortal now...
I have obtained eternity."

Naruto: "You idiot!!
I ain't taking ya down..."

[...]

Naruto: "We will...
...Take you down."

[...]

Sasuke: "Your time has come, Madara."

[...]

Madara: "You awakened Six paths Senjutsu...
...And you awakened one-eyed Rinnegan, huh.

However...
...I've got both those powers together, remember!"

Also, I believe Sasuke is final villain.

 

[RikudouMadara]

I agree...but unfortunately Kishi has been making some imho... Very *unique* writing decisions... So I wouldn't be surprised if he let her emerge. I still firmly....strongly believe that Kishi is no longer writing the Manga. If he is....he is allowing someone, or others to heavily influence the Manga.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's stupid but that is what is likely to happen.

 

[Limbo]

Just gonna post this here...

You really do hate Mad don't you?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Just gonna post this here...

Why don't you make your own post explaining why instead of using others. Not calling you out or insulting you. It'd be better if I see your opinion. My arugment is Madara has been through too much to be casted aside as a pawn and he has not failed as a villain. He was the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan and manipulated Obito so he was the one responsible for the creation of the two big villains of Narutoverse. He almost killed Naruto and Sasuke. I would rather see Madara as the villain. He has much more relevance to the characters then Kaguya who probably wouldn't recognize the people right now unless she has been migrating.

 

[assface3]

Agreed. She needs to stay dead. Kaguya being the final villain would be more stupid than Naruto becoming Hokage.

 

[Forest]

hidden sound shut this one down lol... but yeah....

kaguya is said to be the root of the whole conflict, so it would make sense in the end u.u
as much as i love madara he really was just a tool in the end according to The man who is writing the story..

 

[-Punk-]

Only people who want Kaguya as a villain are the are the ones who don't like Madara , is not because Kaguya makes sense or would be better , because is not ...like the thread says : She was never hinted , nothing was brought up till after 600 + chapters by the Sage who was hinted in the manga , bringing a random character out of nowhere to be the FV is retarded no matter what her story says .

 

[Aya San]

Time for Oro to take over!

I still have faith!

 

[HiddenSound]

You really do hate Mad don't you?

Not a fan, no.

Why don't you make your own post explaining why instead of using others. Not calling you out or insulting you. It'd be better if I see your opinion. My arugment is Madara has been through too much to be casted aside as a pawn and he has not failed as a villain. He was the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan and manipulated Obito so he was the one responsible for the creation of the two big villains of Narutoverse. He almost killed Naruto and Sasuke. I would rather see Madara as the villain. He has much more relevance to the characters then Kaguya who probably wouldn't recognize the people right now unless she has been migrating.

I've given my opinion in an argument with Madara Rules on why Madara will be taken over. It was easier to post that...
Kaguya is the beginning of the evil of Chakra. She is responsible for everything. Even Infinite Tsukuyomi. For Kaguya to be revealed as evil, hyped to be stronger than the Sage, and be shown to be inside Madara, only for her to... Go away, would be awful, awful writing.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Only people who want Kaguya as a villain are the are the ones who don't like Madara , is not because Kaguya makes sense or would be better , because is not ...like the thread says : She was never hinted , nothing was brought up till after 600 + chapters by the Sage who was hinted in the manga , bringing a random character out of nowhere to be the FV is retarded no matter what her story says .

And some Hyuga fans wants her to be FV because she has a Byakugan and is a woman. Which are not good reasons to make a series FINAL VILLAIN.

 

[Forest]

Only people who want Kaguya as a villain are the are the ones who don't like Madara , is not because Kaguya makes sense or would be better , because is not ...like the thread says : She was never hinted , nothing was brought up till after 600 + chapters by the Sage who was hinted in the manga , bringing a random character out of nowhere to be the FV is retarded no matter what her story says .

you look at the story in too much of a linear fashion, actually a lot of the sages backstory (since it really started building up in part 2, ie: naruto and sasuke being related and descendants/ reincarnations) has been building up for a while now. ANd since this is so... at a certain point they had to have descended from one character/ starting point. WHich is kaguya who ties together almost all of the elements of the story. So she really isn't coming out of Nowhere, her essence has been part of the story since the beginning.