Kaguya' s performance in 689 chapter wasn't crap. Kakashi wank ridiculous

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manga scan, then we can talk

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As you can see obito was clearly to fuu and torune's normal eyes even while phasing. Kaguya who has superior eyes to them(byakugan) should have been able to see kakashi easily. However she didn't and was even unable to react to him for some reason.

So, are you ready to talk?
 

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Please don't bring the author into a "character" discussion, they're not real people they're fictional.
Also Kakashi is a main character FYI.

Yeah you know they are fictional but you denied who control them

OK to make it clear this matter here is not about fictional but a motionless characters on the paper

What is the different between main and major characters not much

Kaguya is not main but major characters to naruto world even more major than kakashi overall

Kakashi is the main character but less major compared to Kaguya for OVERALL Naruto world history.

I'm very usual with those kind of save attempt answer in many forums I have debate and posting
 

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please tell me you are joking.
Naruto meeting/getting chakra from sosp was strongly and directly foreshadowed: bijuu, juubi sewing rinnegan behind him. Obito stating Naruto hashirama. Obito also tild naruto about indra vs ashura conflict.

Sasuke while not directly. He was foreshadowed as new Madara even Indra.so it was foreshadowed but indirectly.
While kakashi gahahahahahaha ok enough, nowhere. Oh wait it was when he prayed to kishi for power to shine hahaha
Looks like author hear plea of hus creation.That why he got rikudou chakra
Underline kills your entire foreshadowing argument, just straight out admit it you simple hate the character so instead of accepting it you're just going around bashing him, if he was on you're fav list you make 500 excuses for it.
This what you're doing on is plain pathetic especially in a manga like this.
 

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Not every thing has to be foreshadowed or made into a parallel.
Naruto and Sasuke getting Rikodou chakra is just as much asspull as Kakashi getting it from Obito don't deny this because he doesn't fall into your fav category, fact is Sasuke getting the chakra from the sage wasn't forshadowed at all it just happen.

It was hinted back when Naruto fought the kyuubi.
 

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the report me , you has done the some so many times.

Kamui wank, you know right ?



^^ Nope she will split the goudama and order them to bombard Naruto and Sasuke while they seal her, so in the end they will have to deal with it giving Kaguya room to escape as they can not fully focus on seal



Yeah and how do you know that Byakugan can see chakra/ person while Kamui user is phasing ?

Hmm.. please enlighten me I am curious

That's not the point though. You could clearly see the ash bone go straight through him. Apparently, the goddess of shinobi has no brain whatsoever. She also can't dodge Kakashi's hand glowing from black lightning. Don't tell me she didn't see that.
 

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It was hinted back when Naruto fought the kyuubi.
Sasuke has been foreshadowed with alot of things but getting a powerup from the sage wasn't one of them. sage made it even clear that he's doing things different things time around with Indra's reincarnation
 

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dude that much salt isn't good for your health
 

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Dude it was given to him by Obito's rikudou chakra

The whole arsenal of Obito's ocular power comes in with the package.

He didn't steal it, he borrowed the rikudou chakra from a friend

yet Obito has never used since he got it... please don't joke like that.

Only explanation is that he got it from Naruto or Sasuke when he needed chakra to get out of Kaguya's diemenssion via Obito's kamui.

Now he's a chakra-eye power riding kakashi that shines on borrowed power.

It won't be long before he goes back to normal

exactly Kishi just destroyed Kakashi's character and keep doing it.

Way to go Kishi.

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As you can see obito was clearly to fuu and torune's normal eyes even while phasing. Kaguya who has superior eyes to them(byakugan) should have been able to see kakashi easily. However she didn't and was even unable to react to him for some reason.

So, are you ready to talk?

Sure, She was much focused on Sasuke and Naruto then Kakashi, so she payed for it dearly because she didn't focus on him.

Underline kills your entire foreshadowing argument, just straight out admit it you simple hate the character so instead of accepting it you're just going around bashing him, if he was on you're fav list you make 500 excuses for it.
This what you're doing on is plain pathetic especially in a manga like this.

Yeah so better swallow any shit author serve you, seems leggit

Too bad you can not check it, as kakashi getting Rikudou chakra is the biggest ass pull in this manga for quite long time.
 

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That's not the point though. You could clearly see the ash bone go straight through him. Apparently, the goddess of shinobi has no brain whatsoever. She also can't dodge Kakashi's hand glowing from black lightning. Don't tell me she didn't see that.

Apparently Kakashi is faster than Sasuke. Whom she was able to dodge at close range.
 
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That's not the point though. You could clearly see the ash bone go straight through him. Apparently, the goddess of shinobi has no brain whatsoever. She also can't dodge Kakashi's hand glowing from black lightning. Don't tell me she didn't see that.

And then what is your resolution/theory about all those panel
 

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That's not the point though. You could clearly see the ash bone go straight through him. Apparently, the goddess of shinobi has no brain whatsoever. She also can't dodge Kakashi's hand glowing from black lightning. Don't tell me she didn't see that.

Fast movement + lack of knowledge about Kamui's phasing ability + not considering as threat -> result: she dearly paid to for her arrogancy.

If She was focused and know about phasing ability then Kakashi would never suprise her.

Kakashi's speed and reaction time is far against Kaguya, Naruto, Sasuke and featless for now Hagoromo, Hamura. He is just depending on hax

dude that much salt isn't good for your health

It is fun for me to point out that holes in manga and show readers how easily they swallow any shit Kishi serve ;)
so don't worry
 

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Sasuke has been foreshadowed with alot of things but getting a powerup from the sage wasn't one of them. sage made it even clear that he's doing things different things time around with Indra's reincarnation

Looks like you can't deny that Naruto wasn't. Lol
 

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Yeah so better swallow any shit author serve you, seems leggit

Too bad you can not check it, as kakashi getting Rikudou chakra is the biggest ass pull in this manga for quite long time.
Lol this is just Hilarious. even though Obito had Sage Chakra and pass it on to Kakashi in CHAKRA form, Kakashi getting the chakra is the asspull.so tell me again how the Sage popping out of Naruto/Sasuke/Madara's ass isn't a asspull when he's been dead for how many years? :|
 

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Lol this is just Hilarious. even though Obito had Sage Chakra and pass it on to Kakashi in CHAKRA form, Kakashi getting the chakra is the asspull.so tell me again how the Sage popping out of Naruto/Sasuke/Madara's ass isn't a asspull when he's been dead for how many years? :|

Hagoromo was born as special and child Kaguya, The woman who eat forbidden fruit and gained all chakra.
Hagoromo was Juubi Jinchurki, he has hype and build up to do what he is doing.

Obito also was unique but in other way. Obito was Juubi Jinchurki thene even stole Rikudou chakra but later he has lost either to BZ when he was absorbed inside Kaguya or by Madara when he retireved other Rinnegan or when Obito jumped to Kaguya's dimenssion.

Hagoromo != Obito, so stop comaparing them. Hagoromo was worshipped as God, Even Bijuu admired him and though of him with high respect while Obito was just amazing powerfull shinobi.

The only explanation is that Naruto or Sasuke shared some chakra with Obito and this was trasnfered to Kakashi, however
1) Kakashi should go mad and have problem to control chakra because Rikudou chakra is not thing to play
2) Kakashi would die instantly from sheer power as he had always low/average chakra reserve

Honestly I see Obito getting chakra from Naruto and Sasuke, but it makes everything even more funny because Kakashi would be just shinobi with borrowed powers of Obito, Naruto's Rikudou chakra and Sasuke's Rikudou chakra... so much to make him relevant
 

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Fast movement + lack of knowledge about Kamui's phasing ability + not considering as threat -> result: she dearly paid to for her arrogancy.

If She was focused and know about phasing ability then Kakashi would never suprise her.

Kakashi's speed and reaction time is far against Kaguya, Naruto, Sasuke and featless for now Hagoromo, Hamura. He is just depending on hax



It is fun for me to point out that holes in manga and show readers how easily they swallow any shit Kishi serve ;)
so don't worry

So, this goes back to my previous post. The goddess of all shinobi does not have a brain? She let herself be hit by Kakashi knowing very well that Naruto and Sasuke were going towards her?

I'm also not sure what you meant by that second paragraph. Did you mean to say "Kakashi's reaction time is better than the aforementioned" or "Kakashi has worse speed and reaction times?"
 

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Yet none of that explains how he was able to manifest and give them power up :| nor did it saw BZ or Madara absorb the chakra Obito took. Madara took the Rinnegan that it all anything else is pure speculation
 

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Hagoromo was born as special and child Kaguya, The woman who eat forbidden fruit and gained all chakra.
Hagoromo was Juubi Jinchurki, he has hype and build up to do what he is doing.

Obito also was unique but in other way. Obito was Juubi Jinchurki thene even stole Rikudou chakra but later he has lost either to BZ when he was absorbed inside Kaguya or by Madara when he retireved other Rinnegan or when Obito jumped to Kaguya's dimenssion.

Hagoromo != Obito, so stop comaparing them. Hagoromo was worshipped as God, Even Bijuu admired him and though of him with high respect while Obito was just amazing powerfull shinobi.

The only explanation is that Naruto or Sasuke shared some chakra with Obito and this was trasnfered to Kakashi, however
1) Kakashi should go mad and have problem to control chakra because Rikudou chakra is not thing to play
2) Kakashi would die instantly from sheer power as he had always low/average chakra reserve

Honestly I see Obito getting chakra from Naruto and Sasuke, but it makes everything even more funny because Kakashi would be just shinobi with borrowed powers of Obito, Naruto's Rikudou chakra and Sasuke's Rikudou chakra... so much to make him relevant

I see where you're coming from. Obito is the second sage of the six paths. He's basically also a god. Hagoromo lost the Juubi Jins and is dead, but was clearly able to give Naruto and Sasuke power-ups. Obito did the same. Obito was never praised to be a god because he only became Juubito recently. It hasn't even been a day since he became Juubito and lost it.

1. It was never stated they Rikodou chakra needed some type of amazing chakra control. That's just an assumption
2. Kakashi had average chakra reserves, but had a vastly improved chakra reserve by the war-arc. He has big chakra reserves, but not monstrous. He's been shown to be able to keep Sharingan active for at least an entire day, and spam multiple Raikiris and a few Kamui's, before becoming exhausted.
 

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HAHA!!! Hilarious when peoples said we look down on Kakashi, when he be given 100+ chapters to show his up and down and up until currently, but they look down at Kaguya because she get treated worse for every of her manga chapters. Nothing for me to look down at kakashi although given his manga appearances compared to Kaguya, but I'm also don't look down at kaguya although she been treated like pest by Kishi given her status.

Not every moment of her can be considered as eye candy/impressive, all just full with uncertainty for her story development

That's all I able to said here
 

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So, this goes back to my previous post. The goddess of all shinobi does not have a brain? She let herself be hit by Kakashi knowing very well that Naruto and Sasuke were going towards her?

I'm also not sure what you meant by that second paragraph. Did you mean to say "Kakashi's reaction time is better than the aforementioned" or "Kakashi has worse speed and reaction times?"

Yes She has too much power that why she didn't use her mind too much so it is effect.
I meant Kakashi is below, but not too much, due to kamui without it he is many tiers below.

Yet none of that explains how he was able to manifest and give them power up :| nor did it saw BZ or Madara absorb the chakra Obito took. Madara took the Rinnegan that it all anything else is pure speculation

Of course it explains, Hagoormo had built up to act as God so he could do it -> Kishi created him in this way
Obito was created as normal shinobi with hax ability, so he shouldn't be able to do that-> Kishi wanted to give fanservice to Kakashi's fans.

Yeah let's believe that Madara was stupid enough not to regain stolen from him Rikudou chakra., yeah ?

No

I see where you're coming from. Obito is the second sage of the six paths. He's basically also a god. Hagoromo lost the Juubi Jins and is dead, but was clearly able to give Naruto and Sasuke power-ups. Obito did the same. Obito was never praised to be a god because he only became Juubito recently. It hasn't even been a day since he became Juubito and lost it.

1. It was never stated they Rikodou chakra needed some type of amazing chakra control. That's just an assumption
2. Kakashi had average chakra reserves, but had a vastly improved chakra reserve by the war-arc. He has big chakra reserves, but not monstrous. He's been shown to be able to keep Sharingan active for at least an entire day, and spam multiple Raikiris and a few Kamui's, before becoming exhausted.

As I said I don't have problem with Obito replicating Hagoromo's doing with giving chakra as transmigrant. Yes Kakashi getting MS , hell even Mokuton/Senju DNA which Obito had would be fine and enough. Look Sakura also is far away from them and still she could contribute and that look much better then giving ass pull Rikudou chakra to kakashi so he will outshine Naruto and Sasuke as well, who should be core of that battle.

1. Truth, however Obito had problem controlling it just after becoming Juubi Jin, opposite to Kakashi busting PS then stating having Rikudou chakra and use it no problem, that is bad writting.
2. Indeed I may be to harsh. Still I hardly see kakashi not being at least affected by such power/chakra.

I will sum up: The only problem I see is allowing Kakashi to use new power with no problem, or effort while Naruto and Sasuke needed some time also Rikudou chakra was not longer present in Obito, even then it was such small amount that it shouldn't even affect kakashi's power.
 
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