Kaguya is highly intelligent!

[Reboryushon]

Thats called getting advice. :|

So idk Michael, maybe you are taking the meaning of "will" to literally since BZ works more as a Right arm and a manipulator of Kaguya body.

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[UnknownJin]

This thread is a response/add on to Lord Seventh's regarding Kaguya intellectual capacity.

People need to understand Black Zetsu is Kaguya's will incarnate. Black Zetsu manipulated and schemed for decades, playing indra incarnates like a fiddle.

Her will amongst other things even changed the uchiha tablet and is the reason for indra's hatred/jealousy in the first place.

People bash Kaguya for listening/following her own will, like what? Who wouldn't follow their own will? People just mad because she trolled madara hard and became the final villian. XD ​

that laugh.. .yeah very funny , i forgot how to laugh

 

[Seventh Sama]

:hyper:

On the contrary . She had him go on to manipulate the uchiha clan. Please explain to me why would you create a being to revive you but it to only manipulate you?

 

[take it easy]

Shes more like unskilled noob than stupid.

 

[Angelic.]

bz seemed like he was more of the villian than her.

 

[Reboryushon]

On the contrary . She had him go on to manipulate the uchiha clan. Please explain to me why would you create a being to revive you but it to only manipulate you?

Please, BZ manipulated Indra transmigrants in order to revive Kaguya, even Akatsuki were part of his plan. He was a being obsessed with his mother revival and for that things had to happen the way they did.

When Kaguya was sealed she didn't knew about Uchihas because they didn't exist, neither did Indra. How did she accomplished this ?

Kaguya appears as a brainless entity, controlled by Black Zetsu voice. As soon as Naruto cuts Kaguya arm where BZ was settled, it is done for her. He just witnesses her downfall from the ground, first the manifestation of the rabbit look alike demon, then she returns with a new arm but speaking on her own, gets owned by kakashi and gets sealed.

There is a Kaguya pre rabbit look alike demon and a Kaguya after, which lasts 3 pages.

This is my view on things, you have yours.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Please, BZ manipulated Indra transmigrants in order to revive Kaguya, even Akatsuki were part of his plan. He was a being obsessed with his mother revival and for that things had to happen the way they did.

When Kaguya was sealed she didn't knew about Uchihas because they didn't exist, neither did Indra. How did she accomplished this ?

Kaguya appears as a brainless entity, controlled by Black Zetsu voice. As soon as Naruto cuts Kaguya arm where BZ was settled, it is done for her. He just witnesses her downfall from the ground, first the manifestation of the rabbit look alike demon, then she returns with a new arm but speaking on her own, gets owned by kakashi and gets sealed.

There is a Kaguya pre rabbit look alike demon and a Kaguya after, which lasts 3 pages.

This is my view on things, you have yours.

Databook said she predicted the curse of hatred. Which is why she had bz manipulate them. I can post the page but you could probably find it.

Yeah. We both should know kakashi's surprise powerup was plot no jutsu. Pnj>anything.

It's not a bad thing to debate each others views.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the problem with your argument is that you are taking Black Zetsu's figurative statements about him being Kaguya's will literally. The manga clearly depicts him referring to himself and Kaguya as 2 separate beings on a multitude of occasions, despite her being his creator.

 

[Michael]

I agree but i disagree.

Black Zetsu is a different entity than Kaguya.

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BZ is the brain.

According to Naruto..

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Black Zetsu was mainly driving Kaguya like she was an empty vessel. Like Kabuto with Edo shinobis..

So idk Michael, maybe you are taking the meaning of "will" to literally since BZ works more as a Right arm and a manipulator of Kaguya body.

We see her crying when she meets them but BZ quickly takes over.

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Please, BZ manipulated Indra transmigrants in order to revive Kaguya, even Akatsuki were part of his plan. He was a being obsessed with his mother revival and for that things had to happen the way they did.

When Kaguya was sealed she didn't knew about Uchihas because they didn't exist, neither did Indra. How did she accomplished this ?

Kaguya appears as a brainless entity, controlled by Black Zetsu voice. As soon as Naruto cuts Kaguya arm where BZ was settled, it is done for her. He just witnesses her downfall from the ground, first the manifestation of the rabbit look alike demon, then she returns with a new arm but speaking on her own, gets owned by kakashi and gets sealed.

There is a Kaguya pre rabbit look alike demon and a Kaguya after, which lasts 3 pages.

This is my view on things, you have yours.

the problem with your argument is that you are taking Black Zetsu's figurative statements about him being Kaguya's will literally. The manga clearly depicts him referring to himself and Kaguya as 2 separate beings on a multitude of occasions, despite her being his creator.

True Black Zetsu maybe a seperate entity but he is still her will manifest. He is still apart of her.

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[WalksInShadows]

True Black Zetsu maybe a seperate entity but he is still her will manifest. He is still apart of her.

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it is virtually impossible for someone to be a part of someone else but be a separate entity at the same time. Either they're the same thing or they're not. In the case of Black Zetsu and Kaguya, they are not. He called himself her will because he was made to serve her agenda, not because he is literally her.

 

[ninjarasengan]

People seem to think she was dumb because she took Bz's advice...but she seemed to think it over before actually listening to him.

Throughout the fight she quickly came up with counters and strategies that used the least amount of effort to accomplish what she wanted. She knew how and when to use her abilities...definitely not a noob.

Her main problem was her arrogance in looking down on those she deemed inferior (which Kishi needed to add so she'd have a weakness...he did the same with Madara)

also the fact that her opponents were unpredictable...gaining random abilities during the battle (stuff like that can't be planned for) But, she adjusted well enough and was clearly shown to analyze her enemies during the battle.

another problem was that she wasn't big on monologue and was a silent type.

 

[Aznkidd]

The reason she looks not so smart in that battle because double kamui, super speed,team work...

 

[WalksInShadows]

also the fact that her opponents were unpredictable...gaining random abilities during the battle (stuff like that can't be planned for) But, she adjusted well enough and was clearly shown to analyze her enemies during the battle.

the only person who gained random abilities in that fight was Kakashi. Naruto & Sasuke were either using abilities they were able to use against Madara or abilities they were already able to use and just didn't/couldn't at that point.