Kaguya had two sons?

[Legacy of Hatred]

I'm going to try to make this thread as different as possible because I know there were others like this.

So in the last chapter (670) the Hagoromo said he had a brother, meaning Kaguya had two sons, not one.

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I'm confused at the inconsistency of knowledge. I remember some claiming that Madara may not have relayed all the correct information, for several reasons including : 1) He never read the tablet with the Rinnegan 2) He's lying to deceive Sasuke or someone else 3) He simply doesn't know everything. But imagine the surprise I felt, TWO sons? (2Chainz voice) In chapter 646, it was explicitly stated that there was only one son and it Kaguya's story was told in a way that seems to erase the brother fro history.

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Then again, this information is coming from Madara, not exactly the most credible source. But this twist didn't shock me in a good way, it kinda irritated me because of the inconsistency in the plot. While I did like the fact that we actually got some names on Hagoromo's sons(Ashura and Indra), I can't ignore the fact that there was so little emphasis on the sage's brother.

On another note, the existence of a second son does put things into perspective as far as lineage of clans. What do I mean by this?

Remember when some type of blood relation was established between the Senju and the Uzumaki? I hate stating things without evidence so here:

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Distant relatives? 2nd Cousins Perhaps? While I can't find any explicit evidence that says they're like "cousins" or "2nd cousins" lets just consider it for a moment.

If Indra and Ashura = Brothers then, Indra's offspring and Ashura's offspring = 1st cousins.

Now let's take it a step back.

If Hagoromo and (Kaguya's other son) = brothers, then Indra and Ashura and Kaguya's other son's children = 1st cousins.

Here's the big part bear with me.

If Ashura and Kaguya's other son's children = 1st cousins, then Ashura's children (Senju) and Kaguya's other son's children's children = 2nd cousins or distant relatives.

Thus, I conclude, the probability, that the other son's children's children became the Uzumaki.

Tell me what you guys think.

 

[accept pain]

i can agree with you

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

One was Senju n uchiha together the other son harogomo brother was uzumaki n hyuuga

 

[Ver55e]

Makes you wonder who was the father. Who slept with princess kaguya

 

[Aquarius]

Its settled One is uzumaki and other is uchiha discussion ended :gn:

 

[Legacy of Hatred]

One was Senju n uchiha together the other son harogomo brother was uzumaki n hyuuga

I can respect that conclusion. Makes a whole lot of sense considering there is confusion in the Hyuuga history too. About how allegedly the sharigan was derived from the byakugan, but we clearly see the sharingan first.

 

[MagicalOtakuPony]

WOW my mind just got melted and oozed out my nose and ears i guess i agree it seems quite logical but like Naruto speak more simpler nxt time...simpler's a word right? yhh anyways 94% i agree with you good work :hooray:

 

[Jinchuriki Brawler]

my thoughts exactly

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

I can respect that conclusion. Makes a whole lot of sense considering there is confusion in the Hyuuga history too. About how allegedly the sharigan was derived from the byakugan, but we clearly see the sharingan first.

Yea n hearing how uzumaki is related to Senju n hyuuga to uchiha . I have to assume the harogomo brother had children aswell that were the ancestors to the hyuuga n uzumaki. At least we're slowly getting answers

 

[Troyg39]

I can respect that conclusion. Makes a whole lot of sense considering there is confusion in the Hyuuga history too. About how allegedly the sharigan was derived from the byakugan, but we clearly see the sharingan first.

That's just what we see first. Kishi has been doing a good job as of late tying up loose ends from part 1, I'm sure he won't let the comment about the byakugan being first slide, as we know also that the Hyuga clan, not the Uchiha, were said to be the leaf's oldest clan. And since we know that the leaf started with Senju and Uchiha, the only way for the Hyuga to be the oldest is if their origins stretch back to a later date.

I say that it's possible Hagoromo's brother, assuming he is the link to the hyuga/uzumaki combination, may have had children before Hagoromo did, making the hyuga clan first. Which would also explain why even though they share similar origins, they have lived as if they don't correlate, being from opposing brothers and all

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

yes....the sages bro had kids who are the progenitors of hyuuga and uzumaki

 

[Eastbay510]

I think the other son was the orginal Uchiha. From the looks of it the one with the long white hair looks like Madara.

 

[Ver55e]

You do realize we are saying that all the clans in narutoverse they are connected somehow . Where talking incest

 

[Derek1st]

it isn't mentioned who ashuras mother was. an I the only one who ships kaguya and hagoromo? it was a different time

 

[Troyg39]

You do realize we are saying that all the clans in narutoverse they are connected somehow . Where talking incest

Mankind is pretty much one big incest pool in real life.

 

[Draxus]

I think is possible that Sage's brother may be the Uzumaki ancestor.

Another point a lot of people seem to be glossing over is this mystery bother also had part of the juubi sealed in him. What happened to THAT power?

 

[Legacy of Hatred]

Another point a lot of people seem to be glossing over is this mystery bother also had part of the juubi sealed in him. What happened to THAT power?

Right! Right! That could mean there are more tails that just 9!

 

[Rhythm]

Could probably be true, 2nd Brother would be the main ancestor to the Hyuugas and Uzumakis.