Kage vs 6 Path of Pain(1 vs 6)

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Chibaku tensei / Shinra tensei then you also have that wild dog summon, the more you hit the more it multiplies, not to mention gedo mazo.

Hashirama will have enough time to figure out how CT works and has the fire power to stop it.

Dog summon and Gedo are tiny compared to 1000 arms, Hashirama has SM so he can find where animal path is if he is hiding.
 

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Hashirama will have enough time to figure out how CT works and has the fire power to stop it.

Dog summon and Gedo are tiny compared to 1000 arms, Hashirama has SM so he can find where animal path is if he is hiding.

Well gedo and the dog summon maybe be tiny in size but not in power. About the animal path issue first get though the dog then you also have the other paths to deal with.
 

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Well gedo and the dog summon maybe be tiny in size but not in power. About the animal path issue first get though the dog then you also have the other paths to deal with.

Which wont be very hard if he uses mokuton clones to handle each.
 

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Chibaku tensei / Shinra tensei then you also have that wild dog summon, the more you hit the more it multiplies, not to mention gedo mazo.

Lol? Chibaku tensei isn't doing anything to Shinsu senju, assuming he somehow does find an opening to use it. Anyways, Tori Gates alone can turn this fight around. Using his Mokuton for anything other than CT would be overkill. Tori Gates puts down any animal summon, including the multiplying dog. He can multiply sideways, he cannot multiply from half his lower body to upper body. Tori gate forming a perpendicular form of restraint would mean he can multiply all he wants, but won't leave the tori gate restraint. Tori Gate restrains Gedo, assuming he can summon it with his paths (hypothetical, he cannot though).

Anyways, if someone is actually arguing Pain wins to Hashirama.. Then I don't even know. Minato and Tobirama win, better defend the Pain with the one's who have a less likely chance to win (but still more likely than Pain) than the one who literally steamrolls Nagato in prime, let alone Pain.
 
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Hashirama wins low-mid diff
Tobirama wins High diff
Prime Hiruzen wins neg diff (believe the hype)
Minato wins high diff

I don't think other Kage can beat the 6POP. 3rd Raikage has a good chance if gedo mazo is restricted
 

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Lol? Chibaku tensei isn't doing anything to Shinsu senju, assuming he somehow does find an opening to use it. Anyways, Tori Gates alone can turn this fight around. Using his Mokuton for anything other than CT would be overkill. Tori Gates puts down any animal summon, including the multiplying dog. He can multiply sideways, he cannot multiply from half his lower body to upper body. Tori gate forming a perpendicular form of restraint would mean he can multiply all he wants, but won't leave the tori gate restraint. Tori Gate restrains Gedo, assuming he can summon it with his paths (hypothetical, he cannot though).

Anyways, if someone is actually arguing Pain wins to Hashirama.. Then I don't even know. Minato and Tobirama win, better defend the Pain with the one's who have a less likely chance to win (but still more likely than Pain) than the one who literally steamrolls Nagato in prime, let alone Pain.

1. Tori gates can't restrain the dog cos it can also divide!!
2. Tori Can't restrain GEDO MAZO
3. (hypothetical, he cannot though) ~ Scans PLS
4. I never said pains wins. The fight can go any way!
5. Where did i say prime nagato??

You can't argue based on assumptions, you need manga scans!
 

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Hashirama wins for obvious reasons.
I can see Tobirama and Minato pulling it off.
The rest goes to hell :|
 
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1. Tori gates can't restrain the dog cos it can also divide!!
2. Tori Can't restrain GEDO MAZO
3. (hypothetical, he cannot though) ~ Scans PLS
4. I never said pains wins. The fight can go any way!
5. Where did i say prime nagato??

You can't argue based on assumptions, you need manga scans!

Pretty sure you said without intel no one defeats Pain.. That's a ludicrous claim.
1. As I said, Dog only divides like this [ ] If the Tori Gate closes atop of it like this [ ] for example, it wouldn't be capable of splitting apart efficiently, since it will still remain in the Tori gate no matter how much it splits.
2. Tori restrained The Juubi itself, last I checked Gedo is not even remotely comparable in power. It's like the difference between v1 Susano and PS. Choji and his dad weren't doing bad against it, last I checked Juubi was flicking the Hachibi away with his finger, even though his tails hold the greatest power since they are the highest chakra concentration in his body. Gedo that Nagato summons is also in the earth, not like the one Obito summons (since he doesn't have senju+Uchiha DNA to control it). That makes it even easier to restrain.
3. No need for a scan. Gedo statue is part of the outer paths (being an avid Nagato fan, you should know this.) Outer path includes rinne tensei, Nagato himself has to use rinne tensei for it to work, his paths themselves cannot do it. Same applies for Gedo, it is part of the outer paths hence Nagato himself has to summon it.
4. It cannot, Hashirama wins extremely low difficulty.
5. You didn't, but you are saying Pain loses very high diff, which implies prime Nagato (the red haired one which Naruto's chakra) would win. That is not true since that Nagato also loses low-mid diff.
 

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Pretty sure you said without intel no one defeats Pain.. That's a ludicrous claim.
1. As I said, Dog only divides like this [ ] If the Tori Gate closes atop of it like this [ ] for example, it wouldn't be capable of splitting apart efficiently, since it will still remain in the Tori gate no matter how much it splits. - Its not proven that it can't!!
2. Tori restrained The Juubi itself, last I checked Gedo is not even remotely comparable in power. It's like the difference between v1 Susano and PS. Choji and his dad weren't doing bad against it, last I checked Juubi was flicking the Hachibi away with his finger, even though his tails hold the greatest power since they are the highest chakra concentration in his body. Gedo that Nagato summons is also in the earth, not like the one Obito summons (since he doesn't have senju+Uchiha DNA to control it). That makes it even easier to restrain. - Lady did you forget how gedo mazo fights! Restraining gedo mazo with toroi is useless!
3. No need for a scan. Gedo statue is part of the outer paths (being an avid Nagato fan, you should know this.) Outer path includes rinne tensei, Nagato himself has to use rinne tensei for it to work, his paths themselves cannot do it. Same applies for Gedo, it is part of the outer paths hence Nagato himself has to summon it. - Gedo is not only used for rinnetensei, Jikokudo used gedo efficiently and even killed konoha fodders with it. Read Nagato's bio, before saying something outrageous
4. It cannot, Hashirama wins extremely low difficulty. - Lol fangirl assumptions ain't gonna work. Nagato wins this!
5. You didn't, but you are saying Pain loses very high diff, which implies prime Nagato (the red haired one which Naruto's chakra) would win. That is not true since that Nagato also loses low-mid diff. - Prime nagato means before nagato got crippled. Pain was created after nagato getting injured so that statement of yours is invalid

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1. No, that's not how it works. You present me with scans of it being able to do so, or it doesn't work.. Until then, the point is moot.
2. [ ][ ]. His Gedo has not shown substantial power like Obito, this is because he lacks control over it. Why? Because you need Senju and Uchiha DNA to control it i.e. the power of the six paths, which Nagato does not have. [ ] uchiha+Senju=Six paths. Then, this scan further supports my statement [ ]. You cannot control gedo properly without Uchiha+Senju DNA. Furthermore, he said you can control the Gedo without the rinnegan, meaning rinnegan lets you summon it and Uchiha+Senju DNA let you control it.
3. When did Naraka ever use Gedo, or any other paths for that matter?.. Smh.... King of hell=/=Gedo btw. Anyways, Konan states Nagato is the outer parths/7th pain.
"Nagato's eye power is a technique that rules over life and death; the seventh Pain..." (「長門の瞳力は生死を司る術七人目のペイン...」, "Nagato no dōryoku wa seishi o tsukasadoru jutsu nananinme no Pein...")
"The Outer Path" (「外道」, "Gedō")
This already implies he's the only one who can use the outer path abilities i.e. rinne tensei and Gedo.
4. Mhm, keep telling yourself that -Nagato- aka notorious Nagato fapboy.
5. Yes, I know that. Mobile Nagato loses to Hashirama is what I am saying, but by your logic, Mobile Nagato wins. There's no statement, I am simply claiming by your logic--Mobile Nagato>Hashirama.
 

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1. No, that's not how it works. You present me with scans of it being able to do so, or it doesn't work.. Until then, the point is moot.
2. [ ][ ]. His Gedo has not shown substantial power like Obito, this is because he lacks control over it. Why? Because you need Senju and Uchiha DNA to control it i.e. the power of the six paths, which Nagato does not have. [ ] uchiha+Senju=Six paths. Then, this scan further supports my statement [ ]. You cannot control gedo properly without Uchiha+Senju DNA. Furthermore, he said you can control the Gedo without the rinnegan, meaning rinnegan lets you summon it and Uchiha+Senju DNA let you control it.
3. When did Naraka ever use Gedo, or any other paths for that matter?.. Smh.... King of hell=/=Gedo btw. Anyways, Konan states Nagato is the outer parths/7th pain.
This already implies he's the only one who can use the outer path abilities i.e. rinne tensei and Gedo.
4. Mhm, keep telling yourself that -Nagato- aka notorious Nagato fapboy.
5. Yes, I know that. Mobile Nagato loses to Hashirama is what I am saying, but by your logic, Mobile Nagato wins. There's no statement, I am simply claiming by your logic--Mobile Nagato>Hashirama.

Nagato is the only person aside madara and the sage to use a a dual real rinnegans yet you say nagato lacks control over gedo??
Because you need Senju and Uchiha DNA to control - that was said for obito not for nagato. Nagato was the only person who could do it with out any dna powerup!
You cannot control gedo properly without Uchiha+Senju DNA. That is what madara said - But the truth is we all know what nagato is capable of with gedo mazo summoned.

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Pls tell me the diff between the both images?? one using outer path techs the other using rinne tensei??
You seem like king morons alt or something?? no offence! And i don't care what you call me!
Yes mobile nagato stomps hashirama cos hashi has no counter to CT. And with gedo mazo summoned its GG.

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Nagato is the only person aside madara and the sage to use a a dual real rinnegans yet you say nagato lacks control over gedo??
Because you need Senju and Uchiha DNA to control - that was said for obito not for nagato. Nagato was the only person who could do it with out any dna powerup!
You cannot control gedo properly without Uchiha+Senju DNA. That is what madara said - But the truth is we all know what nagato is capable of with gedo mazo summoned.

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Pls tell me the diff between the both images?? one using outer path techs the other using rinne tensei??
You seem like king morons alt or something?? no offence! And i don't care what you call me!
Yes mobile nagato stomps hashirama cos hashi has no counter to CT. And with gedo mazo summoned its GG.

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Do you understand what this means ^^^

Lel once again. Probably my last reply to you since you're so ignorant and stubborn.
What does that have to do with anything? He lacks the Uchiha+Rinnegan DNA that Madara confirmed are required to control the Gedo. He said Gedo can only be summoned with rinnegan, but can be controlled without it. What does this mean? Uchiha+Senju DNA control it, which Nagato does not have. Disprove this with scans or gtfo.

Proof of Nagato controlling the Gedo Mazo completely? He can only summon it and let it rampage, he himself cannot control it unless you have scans to disprove my claims which are supported by the manga itself. Everyone needs Uchiha+Senju DNA, scans of Nagato being an exception or gtfo.

What is he capable of? Please enlighten me. He summoned it for 5 seconds and used soul removal. Hashirama easily outruns it the same way Hanzo did. Other than that, give me scans of the Gedo's feats instead of prolonging your fan-fic.

What? Clearly, Nagato himself was the one to do the jutsu [ ]. How does this imply Nagato can do long ranged summonings? Last I checked, Gedo Mazo required you to put your hand on the to summon it the proximity of your hand, not in another location. Rinne Tensei=/=Gedo, it is simply used by the original Nagato, it doesn't mean it is identical to Rinne Tensei.

Lawl, CT was broken out of by 7 tailed 50% Kyuubi v2 jin. Are you saying 7 tailed 50% kyuubi jin's strength>Shinsu senju's strength? If so, then please go back to the second grade where you can work on your comprehension skills. Anyways, Shinsu senju punches it and it flies away, shinsu senju wont even be effected by the gravitational pull lmao, it's too large.
 

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Hashirama (low diff)
3rd/4th Raikage (Mid-High diff)
Minato (possibly pushed to high diff)
Tobirama (High Diff)
 

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With out intel no one can defeat pain/nagato !! / Thread



rinnegan can see chakra!!




Gakido can adsorb any kind of ninjutsu

Wait... Rinnegan couldn't see SM Naruto in the Toads mouth?

I doubt its absorbing Mokuton
 

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Lel once again. Probably my last reply to you since you're so ignorant and stubborn.
What does that have to do with anything? He lacks the Uchiha+Rinnegan DNA that Madara confirmed are required to control the Gedo. He said Gedo can only be summoned with rinnegan, but can be controlled without it. What does this mean? Uchiha+Senju DNA control it, which Nagato does not have. Disprove this with scans or gtfo.

Proof of Nagato controlling the Gedo Mazo completely? He can only summon it and let it rampage, he himself cannot control it unless you have scans to disprove my claims which are supported by the manga itself. Everyone needs Uchiha+Senju DNA, scans of Nagato being an exception or gtfo.

What is he capable of? Please enlighten me. He summoned it for 5 seconds and used soul removal. Hashirama easily outruns it the same way Hanzo did. Other than that, give me scans of the Gedo's feats instead of prolonging your fan-fic.

What? Clearly, Nagato himself was the one to do the jutsu [ ]. How does this imply Nagato can do long ranged summonings? Last I checked, Gedo Mazo required you to put your hand on the to summon it the proximity of your hand, not in another location. Rinne Tensei=/=Gedo, it is simply used by the original Nagato, it doesn't mean it is identical to Rinne Tensei.

Lawl, CT was broken out of by 7 tailed 50% Kyuubi v2 jin. Are you saying 7 tailed 50% kyuubi jin's strength>Shinsu senju's strength? If so, then please go back to the second grade where you can work on your comprehension skills. Anyways, Shinsu senju punches it and it flies away, shinsu senju wont even be effected by the gravitational pull lmao, it's too large.


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Uzumakis are from senju linage and rinnegans are uchiha eyes which is senju + uchiha.

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you are jumping on this scan right?? it was proven wrong in recent chapters!

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Need more? I think its enough!

Hashirama doesn't have teleportation unlike hanzo so GG for Hashi.
FYI gedo and gedo mazo are two entirely different things.

CT was broken out of by 7 tailed 50% Kyuubi v2 jin.

^^ It was eight tails and almost nine tails before minato save the day for naruto!

How does this imply Nagato can do long ranged summonings?

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Did you mean this? if not what do you mean by long range summons??

Rinne tensei is not gedo. do your research before you debate. Rinne tensei is a jutsu and gedo is a path of nagato.


Isn't it a bit rude!! It seems you got Butt-hurt?? If you stay that way!

shinsu senju wont even be effected by the gravitational pull lmao, it's too large.

This is the most idiotic joke i ever heard today!! XD

Conclusion Nagato > Hashirama any day any where deal with it! And Stay butt hurt. XD

Wait... Rinnegan couldn't see SM Naruto in the Toads mouth?

I doubt its absorbing Mokuton

Toads also have chakra so it was not possible to see where naruto was!
 
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Sasuke, because he will be Hokage
Get out.

OT: Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato would be able to beat the six paths of Pain. I believe in the hype, so Hiruzen too.​
 
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Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato. They're the only ones I can see doing it.
I don't see any of the others getting past Chibaku Tensei.
 
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