Kagami the teleporter

[|KirA|]

First of. I dont want to you to convince that Kagami is Tobi. I also dont want you to convince that Kagami is somehow close related to Shisui and Obito, which is highly possible because of the title "body flickr" and is discussed here:

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No I want you to convince that Kagami had most probably a kind of "teleporation" technique. Why do I think so? Because he was in fact a student of the 2nd hokage (Tobi...rama) Tobirama was known for his powerfull teleporation and for his edo tensai. (I cant understand why Kishi is hyping 1st so much, while 2nd seems to be amazing)

So thats what I think. The next sentence you can skip if you dont like my theory at all.

I think Kagami learnt teleportation and tried to teach it his sons. Shisui mastered it and got the title "the body flickr", Obito was too young, but somehow he possesed this technique afterall (in his sharingan, which doesnt seem very Uchiha-like) and thats how Kakashi got it.

And now the top of it: Kagami could be Tobi and he used the name Tobi because of his teacher who tought him his special ability and who I think he admired like Madara admired the 1st.

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[~Yubel~]

Well, you didn´t say anything i haven´t said except for the fact that kagami learned the space/time from tobirama and incorporated it into his sharingan and wanted to know how edo-tensei worked, also since he named himself tobi after tobirama.

 

[|KirA|]

Well, you didn´t say anything i haven´t said except for the fact that kagami learned the space/time from tobirama and incorporated it into his sharingan and wanted to know how edo-tensei worked, also since he named himself tobi after tobirama.

thats why I told them I didnt want to draw the family-tree lines especially, only the thing with teleportation and tobi

It is more probably that Kagami learnt ST jutsu be Tobirama, then something else. Would give it at least 20 % probability. (Which is a big number if you think about the other possibilities.)

 

[kibaclaw]

Since when was Tobirama known for teleportation techniques? He was known for space-time and kinjutsus. Space-time just means summoning so we don't even know that he had the ability to do ftg or anything like minato. Body flicker has nothing to do with space-time ninjutsu, it has to do with being extremely fast. If you have enough speed you can body flicker.

I think if Kagami learned S/T techniques from Tobirama it was probably just the summoning jutsu, which is the same S/T technique that everyone knows.

 

[partha420]

Who knows

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Like I said in the other thread, I made a thread a few months ago about how Kagami was Obito and Shisui's father. The timeline fits and they all look alike. With that being said though, I believe Obito would be the older brother. Obito would be 30 if he was alive today, and Itachi would be 21. So since Itachi viewed Shisui as an older brother, I think Shisui would be around 25-29 therefore being Obito's younger brother

 

[~Yubel~]

Since when was Tobirama known for teleportation techniques? He was known for space-time and kinjutsus. Space-time just means summoning so we don't even know that he had the ability to do ftg or anything like minato. Body flicker has nothing to do with space-time ninjutsu, it has to do with being extremely fast. If you have enough speed you can body flicker.

I think if Kagami learned S/T techniques from Tobirama it was probably just the summoning jutsu, which is the same S/T technique that everyone knows.

Space/time would refer to his ability of using it, not summoning, in that case then he wouldn´t be any different then tsunade who has summoning.
Minato said that tobi had better space/time then him an tobirama so tobirama had space/time, doesn´t have to be as good as minatos or tobi but he had it.
He was known for that and water techniques.

 

[kibaclaw]

Space/time would refer to his ability of using it, not summoning, in that case then he wouldn´t be any different then tsunade who has summoning.
Minato said that tobi had better space/time then him an tobirama so tobirama had space/time, doesn´t have to be as good as minatos or tobi but he had it.
He was known for that and water techniques.

what do you mean by "using it"? Go look up space-time techniques the majority of the ones we know about are summonings and the rest of them involve summoning. Everyone in Naruto world pretty much has space-time techniques. We don't know what Tobirama's were, and body flicker is not a space-time technique, it is a speed ninjutsu.

Every person who ever summons anything in Naruto is using space-time techniques.

 

[|KirA|]

lol who knows. space time is for me teleporting. summoning is a kind of teleporting "you teleport the animals from some place to your place"

 

[kibaclaw]

lol who knows. space time is for me teleporting. summoning is a kind of teleporting "you teleport the animals from some place to your place"

Yup, and also the animals can reverse summon you to their place because of the contract which is a seal.

FTG is a variation of this seal that Minato uses but he has the ability to summon himself to the seal extremely fast and without using hand signs which is what makes it badass.

I guarantee there are other people who can place a seal somewhere and then summon themselves to it they just aren't able to do it nearly as fast or without hand signs.

 

[polleteke]

what do you mean by "using it"? Go look up space-time techniques the majority of the ones we know about are summonings and the rest of them involve summoning. Everyone in Naruto world pretty much has space-time techniques. We don't know what Tobirama's were, and body flicker is not a space-time technique, it is a speed ninjutsu.

Every person who ever summons anything in Naruto is using space-time techniques.

Minato clearly says that Tobi's Space Time technique exceeds both his and Tobirama's Space Time Jutsu, he's not talking about summoning jutsu obviously

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[~Yubel~]

what do you mean by "using it"? Go look up space-time techniques the majority of the ones we know about are summonings and the rest of them involve summoning. Everyone in Naruto world pretty much has space-time techniques. We don't know what Tobirama's were, and body flicker is not a space-time technique, it is a speed ninjutsu.

Every person who ever summons anything in Naruto is using space-time techniques.

True but that falls under another category called summoning technique
Tobirama was known for space/time by minato and tobi so you better be sure that he could do something similar to himself or to the area around him.