Kabuto's edos always count

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Unfortunately, you are wrong. People do not do top 10's or un-handicapped versus threads based on now or right before someone dies (Or at least, they SHOULD not). For example. Kisame died without Samehada. In that fight, he never had Samehada. But he is always counted with it. And Hiruzen died an old man. But the only reason I don't see him included in top 10s and so on is because we haven't seen him battle in his prime, not because he's old. Just saying.

I think people do that because we still believe kisame died back when he was beheaded by bee and A because this was the last time we saw him really fighting. The other time he was just running away and we respect kisame enough not to base his strength on this. And your Hiruzen is exactly what Im saying people don't put him in top 10's because before he died he was old.
Edit: And that was his current strength. So in a top 10 with kabuto's current strength most of his edo's are sealed

 

[FizzyDrink]

your inclined to your opinon but im sticking with my own

i dont consider summonings like nagato and itachi and edo madara.

thats like saying naruto is about to get owned but he pulls out a edo nagato out of nowhere?

its a cheap jutsu TBH.

The problem is that YOU'RE the one who's just using your opinion. You can't discount something because you think it's "cheap". That in itself is not fair. As I said, since he has the ability to do so, he would. In any battle. And that is the truth. And it is actually unfair of you to not count it because you think it's too strong.

I think people do that because we still believe kisame died back when he was beheaded by bee and A because this was the last time we saw him really fighting. The other time he was just running away and we respect kisame enough not to base his strength on this. And your Hiruzen is exactly what Im saying people don't put him in top 10's because before he died he was old.
Edit: And that was his current strength. So in a top 10 with kabuto's current strength most of his edo's are sealed

So by your logic, if Kankuro were to have his puppets destroyed in a fight, then from then on they would not count in any ranking/versus threads? Because basically that's what's happening now. Kabuto is in a wide ranged battle against all shinobi. So that's why I think your logic is not really fair.

 

[arv993]

Erm BM naruto with itachi, sasuke, five kages, konoha 11, kakashi, guy.. and everyone else alive.
You gave me a fake battle scenario so I replied with one. Madara will get defeated or sealed kabuto wont have the chance.

i am talking about a 1v1 scenario. also let me tell u that kabuto is losing that power obviously but it doesnt change the fact that he is still the strongest or second strongest ninja as of this moment

i can also say kisame is dead so he cant fight why are u only showing bias towards on character lol.

by ur other posts i saw ur flawed logic which is u degrade kabuto in ur rankings by not putting him in his prime but while others are so in their prime. that is so fair but even then i want to see who(one perso) can beat madara + kabuto since that is current state.

 

[arv993]

What I'm saying is you can. Kabuto is basically SUMMONING puppets. As I said, it's like a puppet and a summon mixed. And you just said you don't count them because their power is more than a "regular summon". That is not fair. You are constantly saying that you don't think it counts because it's "too powerful". And the only other argument you presented is that it isn't like a summoning, when the fact is that Edos are dead people that he has SUMMONED and brought back to life using his NINJUTSU which also allows him to control them. It may not seem fair, but in a battle, he CAN do it, so he WILL. And that is all.

your inclined to your opinon but im sticking with my own

i dont consider summonings like nagato and itachi and edo madara.

thats like saying naruto is about to get owned but he pulls out a edo nagato out of nowhere?

its a cheap jutsu TBH.

no one said its not cheap but thats the way he is made, ppl can complain about how OP tobi or madara are but they are villains so they are overpowered to the fullest

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

So by your logic, if Kankuro were to have his puppets destroyed in a fight, then from then on they would not count in any ranking/versus threads? Because basically that's what's happening now. Kabuto is in a wide ranged battle against all shinobi. So that's why I think your logic is not really fair.

No by my logic edo's and puppets are different, kankuro can make stronger puppets which he will. Kabuto cannot get the same powerful edo's back so in his current state right now most of his edo's are sealed

i am talking about a 1v1 scenario. also let me tell u that kabuto is losing that power obviously but it doesnt change the fact that he is still the strongest or second strongest ninja as of this moment

i can also say kisame is dead so he cant fight why are u only showing bias towards on character lol.

by ur other posts i saw ur flawed logic which is u degrade kabuto in ur rankings by not putting him in his prime but while others are so in their prime. that is so fair but even then i want to see who(one perso) can beat madara + kabuto since that is current state.

Yh he is one of which is why in my top 10 of people alive he his second I didn't say he was any lower.

My top 10 takes it from either their current state or their prime so I would judge kisame on his prime

Kabuto is in his prime right now and his edo's are sealed edo is different from summoning why can't you people see that.

 

[arv993]

No by my logic edo's and puppets are different, kankuro can make stronger puppets which he will. Kabuto cannot get the same powerful edo's back so in his current state right now most of his edo's are sealed




Yh he is one of which is why in my top 10 of people alive he his second I didn't say he was any lower.

My top 10 takes it from either their current state or their prime so I would judge kisame on his prime

Kabuto is in his prime right now and his edo's are sealed edo is different from summoning why can't you people see that.

kabuto's prime was when he had all his edos lol. right now since he took on the whole JSA his number of edos have greatly reduced. its like me saying kisame's prime was when he didnt have samehada and was fighting guy.

 

[Cerox0]

its not fair the power levels is not fair.

i get its kabuto's summoning but still a edo nagato to a manda or gamabunta?

i dont think edo's should count as summonings.

That's like saying Itachi's fire style : Fire ball jutsu counts. But Nagato's Almighty push doesn't? They're both ninjutsu and Edo and Animal summonings are both summonings.They're ninja, it isn't about what's fairI believe a combo of SM then using an Edo is very possible.

He hasn't controlled it like Orochimaru because he's controlling a ridiculous amount of edo's to control. You guys really don't think he can control 2 and Fight with them like Orochimaru? Lol c'mon people.

OT: Yes they do count no matter what anyone says, get over it.

 

[arv993]

That's like saying Itachi's fire style : Fire ball jutsu counts. But Nagato's Almighty push doesn't? They're both ninjutsu and Edo and Animal summonings are both summonings.They're ninja, it isn't about what's fairI believe a combo of SM then using an Edo is very possible.

He hasn't controlled it like Orochimaru because he's controlling a ridiculous amount of edo's to control. You guys really don't think he can control 2 and Fight with them like Orochimaru? Lol c'mon people.

OT: Yes they do count no matter what anyone says, get over it.

the combo of Sm and edo is already being done.

do u think madara just stopped fighting ever since the uchiha bros started fighting kabuto himslef

 

[Simplified]

People can include/not include whatever they want. If you're qq'ing about the vs threads with no edos then too bad, it's not your thread to control.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Ok my overall point is that edo's and summons are different edo's can't be counted as some one's strength because once that edo has been sealed the user can't summon them again. But a summon like enma can be used over and over again in different battles. So when people do a top ten kabuto's edo's don't count because most of them have been sealed.

Yes that means madara and muu would count for kabuto right now but we all know they will be defeated, so when someone does a top ten and decides they don't wont to include kabuto with his edo's and only his sage mode they can.

 

[FizzyDrink]

No by my logic edo's and puppets are different, kankuro can make stronger puppets which he will. Kabuto cannot get the same powerful edo's back so in his current state right now most of his edo's are sealed

What about Sasori's human puppets? He can't replace those. What if he lost those in an extended battle? Would you not count those after the fact?

People can include/not include whatever they want. If you're qq'ing about the vs threads with no edos then too bad, it's not your thread to control.

What I'm saying is that even when people don't include it as a prerequisite to a scenario, they don't count it. Particularly in ranking threads, where Kabuto is sometimes placed as low as ninth, even though in a 1 v 1 battle against all those above him, he would win, because he has edo tensei.