kabuto (now) vs original akatsuki

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Someone brought up Oro. Which I completely forgot! Oro has the 1st and 2nd Hokages with his Edo and all of his other OP jutsus!

Insult to injury case closed.

look at it like this
fourth kazekage>hidan,konan and zetsu
second mizukage>kisame
third raikage>sasori and deidara
muu>kakuzu
edo madara>tobi and 6 paths and nagato
hanzo+kin gin brothers>itachi
dan+asuma+hizashi+seven swordsmen+haku+scorch girl+explosion guy+magnetic guy+chiyo+kimimaro all can help out anyone on kabuto team so akatsuki loses big time.
Look at it like this, Tobi>Kabuto. The rest is purely imagination and fun.
 
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I like this question, there is no obvious winner to this.

Things to consider are:

Peins animal summons,
Kisamse's knowledge of the swordsmen
Peins ability to absorb chakra from those twins
Deidara enourmous area damage.

Only sealing jutsu would work, attacks from deidara would complete blast them but they would just regen, killing kabuto does not change this.

The akatsuki would rely way too much on Itachi to either undo the Edo or go around with the susanoo sealing people. He isnt well known for his stamina as it is so fighting Edo's like Muu, the Raikage, Mizukage etc might wear him down quickly.

Also, Madara would know whatever weaknesses there are to all Uchiha techniques, Itachi himself said that every technique has a weakness.

So in summary, I think if Itachi was somehow focused/taken out, the Akatsuki would take it.

My shout goes for Kabuto on this one :)
The reason why I believe that Akatsuki would win is because they don't have to deal with the edos. All they have to do is go after Kabuto himself since it's Kabuto vs Akatsuki.

If Kabuto dies, the edos will remain but since it's a versus fight, the fact that Kabuto would die means that he will lose.

If the fight would be for them to take on and seal all the edos and Kabuto as well then I believe that it would be too much for Akatsuki to handle since not only will the rules include for Kabuto to die but it would include having to seal the edos. In that case, Kabuto might win unless Tobi warps Akatsuki to his pocket dimension and then goes around warping the edos 1 by 1 to his dimension to make it Akatsuki vs 1 edo at a time.


The fact that Tobi could pretty much force Kabuto to go 1 vs 1 by warping him to his dimension is the reason I think Akatsuki would win.

Tobi has to be solid to absorb but all he has to do is warp to Kabuto and warp himself and Kabuto to his pocket Dimension in the next second. There, if Tobi has already previously warped Akatsuki there at the start of the fight, it would literally be Akatsuki vs Kabuto alone.

The Akatsuki won't even have to engage the edos unless atleast one of Kabuto's edos has Tobi type of S/T ninjutsu which would allow him to warp himself and all the other edos to Tobi's pocket dimension to aid Kabuto.

For example, If Tobi fights the six paths of pain, he could force it to be an actual 1 vs 1. He could first, warp away for a few seconds. Warp behind one of them in a second and use that instant to warp 1 of them to his pocket dimension for an actual 1 vs 1. If he manages to kill that one pain, which could be the Naraka path to avoid it from reviving the rest, then he could warp back to the rest and warp another single pain to his pocket dimension to dispatch the pains 1 by 1.

Tobi's ability to pretty much force a 1 vs 1 is the reason why I think Akatsuki would win but since all of Akatsuki is involved, Kabuto would have to rely on his own abilities to defeat all of Akatsuki at once.
 

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first of all to all the ppl kabuto is not gonna be on the battlefield he is always somewhere else.

Madara+muu+2nd mizukage+4th kazekage+gold and silver bros+3rd raikage+his other edos is a good force to be dealt with but tobi+nagato and itachi and the rest of akatsuki are too strong together. but in all good fight. But the changiing factor is tobi if not for him akatsuki would lose. Madara can destroy most of akasuki though just with his meteors, mokuton and all that but tobi is also very strong so it will end in a slight win for the akatsuki IMO.

It still depends cos edos can't die and have to be sealed so i think its a draw or a slight win for akatsuki tbh.
 

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first of all to all the ppl kabuto is not gonna be on the battlefield he is always somewhere else.

Madara+muu+2nd mizukage+4th kazekage+gold and silver bros+3rd raikage+his other edos is a good force to be dealt with but tobi+nagato and itachi and the rest of akatsuki are too strong together. but in all good fight. But the changiing factor is tobi if not for him akatsuki would lose. Madara can destroy most of akasuki though just with his meteors, mokuton and all that but tobi is also very strong so it will end in a slight win for the akatsuki IMO.

It still depends cos edos can't die and have to be sealed so i think its a draw or a slight win for akatsuki tbh.

I agree with you. Though the only way I think Kabuto would win would be if Akatsuki doesn't know were he is because if they do, Tobi could instantly warp Akatsuki and himself to his dimension. From his dimension, he could then warp right behind Kabuto and use that instant to warp him and himself to his dimension as well. Having done that, Akatsuki already evaded the edos and now Kabuto would have to use his own techniques to face Akatsuki alone.
 

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Someone brought up Oro. Which I completely forgot! Oro has the 1st and 2nd Hokages with his Edo and all of his other OP jutsus!

Insult to injury case closed.



Look at it like this, Tobi>Kabuto. The rest is purely imagination and fun.
look at it like this madara>tobi the rest is purely imagination:flaw:
akatsuki is juts outnumbered and outclassed thats why you had no actual counter to all of my statements other than that imagination nonsense your spouting.
 

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I agree with you. Though the only way I think Kabuto would win would be if Akatsuki doesn't know were he is because if they do, Tobi could instantly warp Akatsuki and himself to his dimension. From his dimension, he could then warp right behind Kabuto and use that instant to warp him and himself to his dimension as well. Having done that, Akatsuki already evaded the edos and now Kabuto would have to use his own techniques to face Akatsuki alone.
it not like kabuto is gonna be unprotected and if tobi teleports himself or others to him he can summon his edo to him or do reverse summoning and go to where they are.
 

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look at it like this
fourth kazekage>hidan,konan and zetsu
second mizukage>kisame
third raikage>sasori and deidara
muu>kakuzu
edo madara>tobi and 6 paths and nagato
hanzo+kin gin brothers>itachi
dan+asuma+hizashi+seven swordsmen+haku+scorch girl+explosion guy+magnetic guy+chiyo+kimimaro all can help out anyone on kabuto team so akatsuki loses big time.
The jinchurrikis belong to Tobi not Kabuto..
look at it like this madara>tobi the rest is purely imagination:flaw:
akatsuki is juts outnumbered and outclassed thats why you had no actual counter to all of my statements other than that imagination nonsense your spouting.
Tobi can't be hit dumb ass. You came too late to the thread and to continue would just make you look even more dumb.

well oro was not listed by the thread maker so tough luck.
Regardless they still win. Tough luck.
 

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The jinchurrikis belong to Tobi not Kabuto..

Tobi can't be hit dumb ass. You came too late to the thread and to continue would just make you look even more dumb.



Regardless they still win. Tough luck.
r u blind thats why it says edo madara>tobi and his paths and nagato
in case u dont know thats means im saying madara on kabuto side can beat tobi and his stupid paths plus nagato who are on akatsuki side. And your just being dumb just because tobi cant be hit madara cant beat him. yeah sure thats why he got his ass kicked by minato. you make no sense your implying he is invincible his intangibility has weaknesses. he's just a madara wannabe. and no they dont win so i dont know where your going. they are outnumbered and outclassed just face it.
 

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r u blind thats why it says edo madara>tobi and his paths and nagato
in case u dont know thats means im saying madara on kabuto side can beat tobi and his stupid paths plus nagato who are on akatsuki side. And your just being dumb just because tobi cant be hit madara cant beat him. yeah sure thats why he got his ass kicked by minato. you make no sense your implying he is invincible his intangibility has weaknesses. he's just a madara wannabe. and no they dont win so i dont know where your going. they are outnumbered and outclassed just face it.
Like I said if you were here yesterday you would know. The only reason Minato hit him because he is the fastest cause of FTG and has the best reflexes in the manga. Konan prepared for YEARS to counter it. His s/t teleportation is INSTANT and Kabuto isn't fast enough to counter it. ANd Madara wouldn't know it's happening so he can't help Kabuto's pathetic ass. And you said Tobi uses people? Lol Kabuto does too... but times 10
 

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Not sure.. Akatsuki have a variety of abilities at there disposal. And we've never seen them all fight simultaneously. I would imagine Diedaras C0 and other explosive techniques, Sasori's poison and vast amounts of puppets (especially third kazekage), Pein and his six paths, Itachi's sussano and various sharingan techs, tobi's time space tech and sharingan, Zetsu's tracking ability and cloning tech., Kisame's samehada and very large scale water techs. (do to his tailed beast like chakra levels), Konan's paper bomb arsenal and origami techs., Hidan's immortality and body control ritual, and kakuzu's multiple hearts with varied elemental properties would pose a great threat if coordinated correctly and directly at kabuto. But, Considering Kabuto has edo-madara, third raikage, Muu, and many more powerful nin's at his disposal the fight seems almost to close to call.. It would come down to who ever has the best approach and battle strategy. One thing is for certain.. that battle would be world breaking and awesome!
 

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Like I said if you were here yesterday you would know. The only reason Minato hit him because he is the fastest cause of FTG and has the best reflexes in the manga. Konan prepared for YEARS to counter it. His s/t teleportation is INSTANT and Kabuto isn't fast enough to counter it. ANd Madara wouldn't know it's happening so he can't help Kabuto's pathetic ass. And you said Tobi uses people? Lol Kabuto does too... but times 10
thats why fu and torune were also able to cost him a arm. they were not fast nor had years of practise. his technique is flawed and as konan said it has its fair share of weaknesses. and your implying he can take most of the shinobi world greatest shinobi which is false. if that was true i doubt he would go through all the trouble of making akatsuki if he is so invincible. and ur severly underestimating kabuto here. tobi is just a punk weakling who needs to steal other people names(madara) and power (hashi dna and nagato rinnegan) to compete with the big dogs. as i said kabuto army is filled with the STRONGEST and most FAMOUS shinobi where akatsuki is just a bunch of powerful outcasts. I have shown you who is stronger than who plus the fact that akatsuki is out numbered.
 

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I agree with you. Though the only way I think Kabuto would win would be if Akatsuki doesn't know were he is because if they do, Tobi could instantly warp Akatsuki and himself to his dimension. From his dimension, he could then warp right behind Kabuto and use that instant to warp him and himself to his dimension as well. Having done that, Akatsuki already evaded the edos and now Kabuto would have to use his own techniques to face Akatsuki alone.
But the thing is kabuto always secludes himself so unlikely tobi can find him. so i see akatsuki do having to take heavy casualties to win or draw it since a major advantage kabuto has is that they are edos. without tobi though i dont see akatsuki standing a chance, he is the one who should be on madara's level. I can even see kabuto winning if he can take out tobi but madara's meteor is a huge advantage to keep killing the weaker akatsuki members. he also has the numbers advantage but tobi has beasts so its a very tough battle. I keep having to reconsider cos i forget some important assets both sides have so very tough fight indeed.
 
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thats why fu and torune were also able to cost him a arm. they were not fast nor had years of practise. his technique is flawed and as konan said it has its fair share of weaknesses. and your implying he can take most of the shinobi world greatest shinobi which is false. if that was true i doubt he would go through all the trouble of making akatsuki if he is so invincible. and ur severly underestimating kabuto here. tobi is just a punk weakling who needs to steal other people names(madara) and power (hashi dna and nagato rinnegan) to compete with the big dogs. as i said kabuto army is filled with the STRONGEST and most FAMOUS shinobi where akatsuki is just a bunch of powerful outcasts. I have shown you who is stronger than who plus the fact that akatsuki is out numbered.
Sure it has it's weaknesses but Kabuto isn't fast enough to avoid it. He has gedo mazo or w.e and the jinchuurikis and the Juubi. Get outta here.

Prime Nagato, and Itachi + Kisame, Deidara, Sasori, and Kakuzu are enough to hold off those edos while tobi takes Kabuto in his dimmension. Insult to injury is they also have great summons from Pein/Nagato mainly the dog that can't be killed
 

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Sure it has it's weaknesses but Kabuto isn't fast enough to avoid it. He has gedo mazo or w.e and the jinchuurikis and the Juubi. Get outta here.

Prime Nagato, and Itachi + Kisame, Deidara, Sasori, and Kakuzu are enough to hold off those edos while tobi takes Kabuto in his dimmension. Insult to injury is they also have great summons from Pein/Nagato mainly the dog that can't be killed
how od you know kabuto is not fast enough to notice it is just stand there and he has manda2.0 which is a great help. all those summons are useless against
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and no tobi does not have juubi so shill and the thread maker said pein not nagato or prime so calm the **** down.
dust release can kill the tailed beats with a clean shot.
and kabuto's edo have summons two which have way better abilities then the slew of easily defeated summons he usually has. stop boasting about tobi he is definetly not great.
and if the third raikage tied with the second strongest tailed beast then he can handle the rest.
and jouki boy would rape them infinetly no matter how many times it is destroyed.
and kabuto doesnt have to avoid tobi if he is properly protected.
 
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