kabuto (now) vs original akatsuki

[vaibhav16591]

To know he's coming? By the time he materializes Kabuto is sucked away. Regardless of his body guards. All of this happens really fast and you fail to see how fast it is. Remember when tobi fought Minato? When he went intangible and materialized and about sucked Minato in? This happened incredibly fast and the only way Minato escaped is because his instant telporting and best-in-manga reflexes. Kabuto has neither the speed or reflexes for that level of s/t

u r already beaten on the minato part better not start it....

and tobi has to materialize fully to teleport anyone.... even kakashi, yamato ,guy know this any being intangible makes him vulnerable there..... there are so many thing that can happen...... 3rd raikage's hell bringer , hanzo poison , etc..... they also happen instantly...

 

[Nikes]

u r already beaten on the minato part better not start it....

and tobi has to materialize fully to teleport anyone.... even kakashi, yamato ,guy know this any being intangible makes him vulnerable there..... there are so many thing that can happen...... 3rd raikage's hell bringer , hanzo poison , etc..... they also happen instantly...

No I didn't your ignorant and refuse to listen to reason. And you say I have no logic. Troll?

To the bolded: Exactly and the fact he materialized in time to suck Minato up during Minatos stab with a kunai is incredibly fast.

What does that have to do with Tobi and his s/t?

 

[Lunir]

mind expanding.... a lil...

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fine sire...i really like and agree fully i am aware of the science of space and time....

but the original point was tobi can teleport people around b'coz he has the speed of light and that speed isn't trumped by anyone else other than minato as you fine sire said...then why doesn't tobi just teleport everyone and do what he wants to i am sure noone else can exceed the speed of light......

another point sire then why did minato : the yellow faster than light flash , said this....

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Because Tobi can do it without hand seals or markings on his destination, as well as using it offensively by warping someone into a pocket dimension.

Did you assume he meant Tobi was faster then him?

 

[blazekev90]

yea Kabuto wins this

 

[vaibhav16591]

No I didn't your ignorant and refuse to listen to reason. And you say I have no logic. Troll?

To the bolded: Exactly and the fact he materialized in time to suck Minato up during Minatos stab with a kunai is incredibly fast.

What does that have to do with Tobi and his s/t?

i ignorant????? u logic....?????

if you r so logical then fine sire please contradict what i said in response to those retarded logics of u and your friends

its you who just ignored all the above and went back to square one.....

even minato said tobi's s/t is better than his own and 2nd sama ....

Because Tobi can do it without hand seals or markings on his destination, as well as using it offensively by warping someone into a pocket dimension.

Did you assume he meant Tobi was faster then him?

:sy: did minato call up up and tell you all this.....

they both use teleportation where the concept of fast speed ends..... there is no faster .....

now if you really take that into account then tobi is technically faster as he doesn' need to make any hand signs , or plant any kunai.....

 

[Nikes]

i ignorant????? u logic....?????

if you r so logical then fine sire please contradict what i said in response to those retarded logics of u and your friends

its you who just ignored all the above and went back to square one.....

even minato said tobi's s/t is better than his own and 2nd sama ....

Yes. and Yes.

I go back to square one cause that's all I need.

You sire are an idiot. They are better than Minatos but Minato used his instant teleporting to escape it. Kabuto has no INSTANT evasivness.

:sy: did minato call up up and tell you all this.....

they both use teleportation where the concept of fast speed ends..... there is no faster .....

now if you really take that into account then tobi is technically faster as he doesn' need to make any hand signs , or plant any kunai.....

Earlier you said there is nothing faster than the speed of light. Troll.

Exactly that's how fast Kabuto gets sucked up and the battle ends with Akatsuki on top

 

[Gary777]

edo wins just coz of they dont die need to be sealed

 

[Eternal Sage]

Prolly Kabuto since not only can EMS madara hold them all off for a nice time, kabuto has all the past kages and some other powerful people on his side

 

[vaibhav16591]

Yes. and Yes.

I go back to square one cause that's all I need.

You sire are an idiot. They are better than Minatos but Minato used his instant teleporting to escape it. Kabuto has no INSTANT evasivness.

ohh... ur logic is flawed.... see again

Earlier you said there is nothing faster than the speed of light. Troll.

Exactly that's how fast Kabuto gets sucked up and the battle ends with Akatsuki on top

i still say that bcoz i am sane and an educated human unlike you who lives under a rock.

and if kabuto could have been sucked up that easily what scared tobi so much he could have just sucked up kabuto any time he wanted to....
what was the need to be scared by madara's coffin then?????

Prolly Kabuto since not only can EMS madara hold them all off for a nice time, kabuto has all the past kages and some other powerful people on his side

true.

 

[Nikes]

ohh... ur logic is flawed.... see again



i still say that bcoz i am sane and an educated human unlike you who lives under a rock.

and if kabuto could have been sucked up that easily what scared tobi so much he could have just sucked up kabuto any time he wanted to....
what was the need to be scared by madara's coffin then?????

I give up arguing why your an idiot. We all hit puberty sometimes ig your just a late bloomer.

You want to know why? It's pretty simple really. Because Kishimoto writes it and if he did that we wouldn't have an awesome story going on right now would we?

:scorps:

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Akatsuki...With Nagato Prime he would have to crush the Meteor Spamlets.

 

[vaibhav16591]

I give up arguing why your an idiot. We all hit puberty sometimes ig your just a late bloomer.

You want to know why? It's pretty simple really. Because Kishimoto writes it and if he did that we wouldn't have an awesome story going on right now would we?

:scorps:

i agree with the latter

as for arguing is concerned u didn't even contradict my points and call it arguing???? u brought your friends to fight 4 u , even they refused , so u refused to argue and went back to square 1 because you don't have any points to prove your point whereas i have given manga evidences.....

i give up arguing (insulting) you bcoz its geting boring....

 

[Nikes]

i agree with the latter

as for arguing is concerned u didn't even contradict my points and call it arguing???? u brought your friends to fight 4 u , even they refused , so u refused to argue and went back to square 1 because you don't have any points to prove your point whereas i have given manga evidences.....

i give up arguing (insulting) you bcoz its geting boring....

Tobi s/t takes Kabuto. There really isn't anything to argue about except you found a way..

 

[TheSages456]

its obvious kabuto wins. edo madara by himself could kill a portion of akatsuki by himself. the rest of the edos jailrape tobi.

 

[Cfighter]

If Kabuto can summon anyone besides the Akatsuki, then Kabuto wins.
Hashirama + Madara (with modifications) + all Kage > Akatsuki.

 

[Bluedevil]

kabuto would win.
Edo Madara alone could take on the most powerful of the ataski: Current Tobi
all of the the former kages could wipe out: Nagato and Itachi
The gold and silver bros would own: Hidan (too much talking and curse= no effect)
Puka and the blast element user could stand against:Konan
2 swordsmen from the mist and kimmamarou could take out: Kisame
Hanzo acting serious could take out: Oro
The rest of the mist swordsmen can take on :Kakazu
Danzo himself could take out ederia
Kabuto himself could takeout the main: B/W Zetsu
His grandma, Blast element user and the magnetic element user :Sasori

 

[Scryed]

tobi couldn't "wrap" naruto , minato what makes u think he'll wrap all edos..

moreover the edos are his pawns their first aim is to keep him out of harms way.... u think genjutsuing kabuto is a piece of cake



I never really saw Tobi attempting to warp naruto away and as for minato, minato himself had his FTG which involves teleporting to his kunai. Kabuto does not have that and to be controlling the edos, Kabuto has to manually control them or let them act on their own will.

If he gets himself warped to another dimension, the edos won't be automatically warped with him. Tobi won't even have to fight any edos if he warps only himself and Kabuto to his pocket dimension.

His skill in genjutsu is still unknown but he was still able to catch the fourth mizukage in a genjutsu despite being a perfect jinjuuriki that is, if that was really Tobi at that time. Since all of Akatsuki are included in this fight then Itachi could obviously participate.

I don't see any reason why Tobi can't warp himself and Itachi straight to Kabuto and then warp again along with Kabuto to his pocket dimension. Itachi is able to cast genjutsu by using one finger or so it seemed like it happened against Naruto.

It shouldn't be hard for Itachi to catch Kabuto in a genjutsu if all he needs is one finger. He forces him to cancel out Edo-Tensei and Tobi then uses Human Path on his controlled body.

I also don't see why he can't warp the edos that don't have any sort of teleportation technique which would be most.

Tobi would have to take part in this fight for Akatsuki to actually win. Without Tobi's S/T techniques, I do believe Kabuto would be the victor in this battle but in this case, no.

With the ability to warp himself and others to another dimension, he could avoid conflict with any of the edos or warp the edos to the pocket dimension while Akatsuki take care of Kabuto who would then have to rely on his own strength.

 

[Scryed]

ohh... ur logic is flawed.... see again



i still say that bcoz i am sane and an educated human unlike you who lives under a rock.

and if kabuto could have been sucked up that easily what scared tobi so much he could have just sucked up kabuto any time he wanted to....
what was the need to be scared by madara's coffin then?????



At first, Tobi was afraid that Kabuto would reveal and prove that Tobi was indeed not Madara by showing the alliance the Edo Madara. Kabuto then calmed him down by saying that he had not told anyone yet.

Tobi also wouldn't want to warp or betray Kabuto since he needs his Edo Tensei for this war to make things better for his own army.

As of this moment, he's in the middle of a battle with Naruto and company so warping away just to kill or warp Kabuto for no reason wouldn't really be a smart thing if he's not against you.

 

[Gregsta]

Itachi is about to solo Kabuto so it only takes 1 Akatsuki to kill him

 

[Call Me Legit]

just who called you up and told that.... oro was genjutsued by only 2 people namely the 2 strongest "alive" sharingan users its said sasuke mastered the 3 tome sharingan under oro, and itachi was already genius , sasuke even did genjutsu on danzo a rare feat remarked by danzo himself

kabuto isn't retarded.

Your funny joke fails to amuse me, kid. I don't care when they unlocked their Sharingan, idk why you're bringing it up. My point is Orachimaru's TOP weakness was Genjutsu therefore Kabuto may have the same weakness based on assumptions. Therefore Tobi could use Genjutsu on Kabuto and force him to make the hand seals to end Edo Tensei.

If he wasn't retarded, he would have noticed he's being tracked all the way with a Zetsu Spore.