kabuto (now) vs original akatsuki

[vaibhav16591]

Tobi with his six paths, Itachi, the six paths of pain, Deidara's huge explosions, Sasori's 100 puppets, and all the other Akatsuki take this.

madara's meteors , all edos can regenerate ,chiyos puppets , hanzo's poison , 3rd raikage stamina , 1 finger nikute , etc.........

True but they are theories, Orachimaru's greatest weakness was infact Genjutsu especially with a Sharingan user. Now Kabuto could have the same weakness too seeing as he see's himself as Orachimaru but we already know he's surpassed him maybe the Genjutsu weakness too.

just who called you up and told that.... oro was genjutsued by only 2 people namely the 2 strongest "alive" sharingan users its said sasuke mastered the 3 tome sharingan under oro, and itachi was already genius , sasuke even did genjutsu on danzo a rare feat remarked by danzo himself

kabuto isn't retarded.

yeah if they are all healthy then akatsuki wins with nagato and itachi alone but with tobi it's overkill xd

xd yeah its overkill for akatsuki please see the full edo list.

the akatsuki would rape kabuto. pain's soul removal would defeat all the edo revivals. plus itachi could use genjutsu to trick them into going back to the afterlife. tobi has 7 of 9 tailed beasts that would rape hashidara. no kabuto wouldnt stand a chance.

:sy: they are already dead.and even konohamaru dodged that soul removal , even hanzo dodged it what makes you think these legendary edos will let him do that......if tobi has tailed beasts then madara too has motukon , rinnegan.....

 

[FloriGlori]

Obviously Akatsuki. During all that mess it wouldn't be a problem to surprise Kabuto with some controll-Genjutsu. Since Tobi, Itachi and Pain are included as well, they'll be able to hold their ground against Edo Tensei.

 

[vaibhav16591]

Obviously Akatsuki.

mind being elaborate.....

Dude, minato can teleport instantly. So yes faster than light. That wasn't against Peins pulling power. You really have no standing in this argument cause its ridiculously retarded.

thats it.... you show me a manga page showing this

Obviously Akatsuki. During all that mess it wouldn't be a problem to surprise Kabuto with some controll-Genjutsu. Since Tobi, Itachi and Pain are included as well, they'll be able to hold their ground against Edo Tensei.

woa... surprise.... bro. the edos are his pawns their first aim is to protect kabuto. u didn't look at the list of edos right before saying just pein and itachi will handle them all......

 

[JirayiaRIPforever]

akatsuki wins. SIMPLE AS THAT,

Totsuka blade from itachi on madara (95 % chance he doesn't know itachi has it) so hes gone, and UM EXPLAIN TO ME, how can chiyo beat sasori??? she STATED she has NOTHING strong enough to destroy hiruko, Sasori can poison A BUNCH of edo's which will disable their movement, then sealed.

As for the kages, duel Shinra tensei along with 6 tailed beast bombs= Game over

 

[vaibhav16591]

akatsuki wins. SIMPLE AS THAT,

Totsuka blade from itachi on madara (95 % chance he doesn't know itachi has it) so hes gone, and UM EXPLAIN TO ME, how can chiyo beat sasori??? she STATED she has NOTHING strong enough to destroy hiruko, Sasori can poison A BUNCH of edo's which will disable their movement, then sealed.

As for the kages, duel Shinra tensei along with 6 tailed beast bombs= Game over

before u start S*it madara spams meteors on the field and akatsuki runs for their life....

 

[zenkutsu]

konohamaru avoided having his tounge pulled out. once human path gets a hold of you you are dead. so, tailed beast bombs would easily beat rinnegan and mokuton

 

[JirayiaRIPforever]

Technically she didn't, but she was damn near close. But as an Edo she can, easily with all the info she has on him, especially with the help of other Edos. Sasori doesn't stand a chance in his alive state.

madara's meteors , all edos can regenerate ,chiyos puppets , hanzo's poison , 3rd raikage stamina , 1 finger nikute , etc.........



just who called you up and told that.... oro was genjutsued by only 2 people namely the 2 strongest "alive" sharingan users its said sasuke mastered the 3 tome sharingan under oro, and itachi was already genius , sasuke even did genjutsu on danzo a rare feat remarked by danzo himself

kabuto isn't retarded.



xd yeah its overkill for akatsuki please see the full edo list.



:sy: they are already dead.and even konohamaru dodged that soul removal , even hanzo dodged it what makes you think these legendary edos will let him do that......if tobi has tailed beasts then madara too has motukon , rinnegan.....

Konohamaru dodged it because of plot no jutsu. THAT does not exist here... AND madara as an edo has motukon and rinnegan... your point? that still doesn't protect him and the rest of the Edo's from 6 tailed beast bombs and Totsuka sword, Yasaka magata, ETC, the akatsuki as a group ESPECIALLY healthy and in prime are almost undefeatable by ANYONE/GROUP

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

No, but Kabuto's summons sure will.

I hate the Tsukiyomi defense. It's not always as easy as it seems.

How? If Kabuto is caught before the summons are pulled out? And even if they were out Tukuyomi only takes a second to defeat Kabuto.

You may hate it but this is a typical move for Itachi, he uses it in all of his fights. It makes no sense for the OP to say that Kabuto won't get caught when Kabuto has shown no defense to this.

And why would Akatsuki just stand there and let Kabuto summon all those edo's?

 

[JirayiaRIPforever]

before u start S*it madara spams meteors on the field and akatsuki runs for their life....

dude calm down... and yeah... meteor spam, i gotta say itachi is much different than madara. Hes the smartest person in the show id say. i think he may deflect some meteors with his susano's Yata mirror, while he seals him with totsuka blade. OR we can go your route with spamfest! Tailed beast bomb each meteor then seal, or Shinra tensei spam, ETC

im not even including other akatsuki who could interfere. (read my other post)

no need to be a jerk man

 

[vaibhav16591]

Konohamaru dodged it because of plot no jutsu. THAT does not exist here... AND madara as an edo has motukon and rinnegan... your point? that still doesn't protect him and the rest of the Edo's from 6 tailed beast bombs and Totsuka sword, Yasaka magata, ETC, the akatsuki as a group ESPECIALLY healthy and in prime are almost undefeatable by ANYONE/GROUP

ohh.. plot no jutsu at its best a genin beating the leader of akatsuki.

they don't need protection they just regenerate
i feel yes yasaka magata.

first see that madara is playing with the kages... so i feel he can do better.

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whereas itachi told everyone to hit CT with their strongest attack and this is his strongest attack.

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now see that this is an adult fight.

dude calm down... and yeah... meteor spam, i gotta say itachi is much different than madara. Hes the smartest person in the show id say. i think he may deflect some meteors with his susano's Yata mirror, while he seals him with totsuka blade. OR we can go your route with spamfest! Tailed beast bomb each meteor then seal, or Shinra tensei spam, ETC

im not even including other akatsuki who could interfere. (read my other post)

no need to be a jerk man

kkkk while the meteors engage allllll of akatsuki ( keep in mind that its just a single technique which didn't break a sweat on madara ) other edos will end others.....

 

[Scryed]

Since that power doesn't come directly from Kabuto. When Kabuto summons the edos then all Tobi has to do is warp akatsuki straight to Kabuto and kill him on the spot. They can also use genjutsu on him to dispell the technique since Itachi is able to cast a genjutsu with his finger.

Ofcourse, Akatsuki have to know were Kabuto is for this to happen if Kabuto were to go hide. The Rinnegan's linked vision would have to play a big part in this while the rest of akatsuki try to hold off the invaders. If Kabuto and Akatsuki start out face to face, then he would probably be chased and it would be pretty hard for him to hide while the edos fight.

To defeat Kabuto, Akatsuki don't have to seal off the edos if they can just get warped straight to Kabuto.

It should be obvious that there would be some Akatsuki tragedies. That would be if some Akatsuki stay behind when Tobi warps them to Kabuto.

Akatsuki would take this unless you change the rules of this fight for Akatsuki to have to seal all the edos and kill Kabuto.

With Kabuto alone, even with all the edos. Tobi is a big problem because of his warping abilities. The power itself doesn't come from Kabuto's body so if all you have to do is defeat Kabuto, warp away from the edos or warp the edos themselves away and warp straight to Kabuto to avoid the onslaught.


Killing Kabuto would be a problem itself though since he has the rebirth technique so whether it'll work if Kabuto is caught by human path and uses rebirth as soon as Tobi pulls his soul out is unknown to me. In my opinion, Kabuto won't be able to use rebirth if his soul is directly pulled away from his body. I said my opinion since there's no proof of him being able to use rebirth on human path and there's no proof of him not being able either.

In my opinion, Akatsuki would win via Tobi's S/T techniques.

 

[JirayiaRIPforever]

kkkk while the meteors engage allllll of akatsuki ( keep in mind that its just a single technique which didn't break a sweat on madara ) other edos will end others.....

But its unknown whether or not Yata mirror can block meteors (assumed yes as Zetsu said it can repel anything) If it can Then id say Itachi could shield the others with it while 2 shinra tenseis are used to stop madara for a moment or two then itachi seals him (MANY scenarios both side) but ive seen this one in this thread a few times.

Tobi could simply warp kabuto to his dimension and use genjutsu to release Edo tensei or Warp Madara etc

 

[jinkze]

kabuto less difficulty

 

[vaibhav16591]

Since that power doesn't come directly from Kabuto. When Kabuto summons the edos then all Tobi has to do is warp akatsuki straight to Kabuto and kill him on the spot. They can also use genjutsu on him to dispell the technique since Itachi is able to cast a genjutsu with his finger.

Ofcourse, Akatsuki have to know were Kabuto is for this to happen if Kabuto were to go hide. The Rinnegan's linked vision would have to play a big part in this while the rest of akatsuki try to hold off the invaders. If Kabuto and Akatsuki start out face to face, then he would probably be chased and it would be pretty hard for him to hide while the edos fight.

To defeat Kabuto, Akatsuki don't have to seal off the edos if they can just get warped straight to Kabuto.

It should be obvious that there would be some Akatsuki tragedies. That would be if some Akatsuki stay behind when Tobi warps them to Kabuto.

Akatsuki would take this unless you change the rules of this fight for Akatsuki to have to seal all the edos and kill Kabuto.

With Kabuto alone, even with all the edos. Tobi is a big problem because of his warping abilities. The power itself doesn't come from Kabuto's body so if all you have to do is defeat Kabuto, warp away from the edos or warp the edos themselves away and warp straight to Kabuto to avoid the onslaught.


Killing Kabuto would be a problem itself though since he has the rebirth technique so whether it'll work if Kabuto is caught by human path and uses rebirth as soon as Tobi pulls his soul out is unknown to me. In my opinion, Kabuto won't be able to use rebirth if his soul is directly pulled away from his body. I said my opinion since there's no proof of him being able to use rebirth on human path and there's no proof of him not being able either.

In my opinion, Akatsuki would win via Tobi's S/T techniques.

tobi couldn't "wrap" naruto , minato what makes u think he'll wrap all edos..

moreover the edos are his pawns their first aim is to keep him out of harms way.... u think genjutsuing kabuto is a piece of cake

But its unknown whether or not Yata mirror can block meteors (assumed yes as Zetsu said it can repel anything) If it can Then id say Itachi could shield the others with it while 2 shinra tenseis are used to stop madara for a moment or two then itachi seals him (MANY scenarios both side) but ive seen this one in this thread a few times.

Tobi could simply warp kabuto to his dimension and use genjutsu to release Edo tensei or Warp Madara etc

when zetsu said that edo madara wasn't around.... it will take all mighty push to repel a meteor ( a meteor wiped dinos remember ) it was the luck of the army that oonki was there and do you think madara is a noob ??? a moment or 2 and itachi seals him away... madara has had EMS for longer than itachi's age i believe he has seen all about uchiha... if not that then how could zetsu said what he said... someone earlier might have possessed that too......
madara isn't a noob he's far far more experienced and smart than any ninja present today...

Reason: madara is battle trained, he's of the time when battles were daily business , unlike these academy graduates where you fight once a year..

you'll see this often as this is the most powerful attack of madara shown til now.

 

[Uchiaofthemist]

pein, tobi, itachi and hidan would do enough to kill kabuto.

 

[Nikes]

mind being elaborate.....



thats it.... you show me a manga page showing this

Any instance of him using FTG shows that. Unless you can instantly teleport you can't get away

 

[The Thinker]

Kabuto

 

[vaibhav16591]

Any instance of him using FTG shows that. Unless you can instantly teleport you can't get away

u retard... show me a manga page telling minato is faster than light... and prove Einstein wrong...

 

[Nikes]

u retard... show me a manga page telling minato is faster than light... and prove Einstein wrong...

Light has a speed. Instant is the fastest measurement of speed.

Light would take longer to reach the moon, instantaneous would be faster than light because instant doesn't take time so instant would put you on the moon with no time taken. FTG is instant teleportation. So you sir are the retard.

 

[Light and Darkness]

doesn't itachi have kotoamatsukame,and control madara or kabuto?