Kabuto>Itachi even without Edo Tensei.

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@lilt

tayuya`s genjutsu that is greatly enhanced by kabuto`s sage mode doesnt allow whoever falls under it to move or basically do anything...plus it`s a sound genjutsu(i would have to say it compares to frog genjutsu) so yeah,itachi doesnt have a counter for this one...

 

[Rike Senju]

Obviously, Kabuto with Edo Tensei is stronger, but read the thread title.

Having unlimited MS techniques is useless if you can't use them on the enemy, because you need him alive.

Or because he has knowledge on them and is closing his eyes.

Both Kabuto and Sasuke strongly implied that the Uchiha brothers could eradicate Kabuto if they wanted.

But your not understanding that itachi had an undying body and kabuto couldn't harm sasuke. Just how some people said well itachi would have acted different if the battle was to kill..the same can be said about kabuto if he was to face a alive itachi in a death match. For all we know he could of had some killer SM moves that couldn't be used because sasuke could have been killed. But with what was shown its clear that DSM kabuto would beat itachi 1v1.

 

[CDT23]

the fights been overman, why you still mad XD Itachi took it bro this is just another thread where kabuto fans cry about his defeat.

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[Lilt]

But your not understanding that itachi had an undying body and kabuto couldn't harm sasuke. Just how some people said well itachi would have acted different if the battle was to kill..the same can be said about kabuto if he was to face a alive itachi in a death match. For all we know he could of had some killer SM moves that couldn't be used because sasuke could have been killed. But with what was shown its clear that DSM kabuto would beat itachi 1v1.

And what I'm saying is that their actual fight was worthless in terms of feats, because of those circumstances...

 

[Untung]

Itachi fans boy VS kabuto fans boys

Who win???
Cmon solo king follower..... Use your yata mirror and tot blade.....
Cmon white dragon sage.......use your snake and your dragon ability.......

And me just sitting here........

 

[CDT23]

Itachi fans boy VS kabuto fans boys

Who win???
Cmon solo king follower..... Use your yata mirror and tot blade.....
Cmon white dragon sage.......use your snake and your dragon ability.......

And me just sitting here........

haha threads dead dude not many hot threads anymore besides when the manga issue releases

 

[Rike Senju]

And what I'm saying is that their actual fight was worthless in terms of feats, because of those circumstances...

Not really. White rage is enough to prevent susanno and blinding the user then kabuto can finish of with chakra scalpel. Not to mention in terms of chakra kabuto has unlimited.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Totsuka is attached to Sussanno which is described as lightning fast...it cut orochimaru before he could even finish the words in his sentence... why hasn't it been called fast?...It's only been used twice in the manga.. and sealed both people.... noone to talk about it huh?

describe as lightning fast? hope you show me the scan....
Pls. don't show me the pic of itachi block kirin. cuz it's not susano's speed.
1)Otherwise zetsu who says itachi in susano is invincible, amaterasu is un-dodgeable would say susano is lightning fast or un-dodgeable!.

2)If you count the speed, the average lightning speed is 3000 meter per second. from sky to the battle field it probably around 3km. in other words it takes a second to reach to itachi.

3)Ok managa fact, did you see after susano cut a head or two hydra. the other hydra att. susano luckily the susano was a defense it self (or was it yatta mirror BUT somthing block the hydra's att.) now your saying THAT hydra is faster then lightning?? **Note: Slashing is much faster then stabing**

It doesn't need to appear more then 2X to be stated fast. If it is really fast, it would been stated at the first appearance or BEFORE appearance! like amaterasu, first time raikage use his speed, naruto with his speed,And ofcourse the amazing minato (even just by his nick name.)

 

[Retsu]

I agree, were itachi in the cave by himself kabuto would have molested him edo or not, kabutomaru is the prime example of an anti-uchiha, if there is such a thing

 

[Owarij]

describe as lightning fast? hope you show me the scan....
Pls. don't show me the pic of itachi block kirin. cuz it's not susano's speed.
1)Otherwise zetsu who says itachi in susano is invincible, amaterasu is un-dodgeable would say susano is lightning fast or un-dodgeable!.

2)If you count the speed, the average lightning speed is 3000 meter per second. from sky to the battle field it probably around 3km. in other words it takes a second to reach to itachi.

3)Ok managa fact, did you see after susano cut a head or two hydra. the other hydra att. susano luckily the susano was a defense it self (or was it yatta mirror BUT somthing block the hydra's att.) now your saying THAT hydra is faster then lightning?? **Note: Slashing is much faster then stabing**

It doesn't need to appear more then 2X to be stated fast. If it is really fast, it would been stated at the first appearance or BEFORE appearance! like amaterasu, first time raikage use his speed, naruto with his speed,And ofcourse the amazing minato (even just by his nick name.)

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It is sad that you cannot distinguish between hyperbole and normal statements

Susanno's attacks are naturally fast ..whether it be susanno arrow, its punch or sword stripe.. its immense strength aids the weapons.. as seen with Orochimaru.. almost never before has someone been attacked so fast they couldn't finish words

Spoiler

Not really. White rage is enough to prevent susanno and blinding the user then kabuto can finish of with chakra scalpel. Not to mention in terms of chakra kabuto has unlimited.

Itachi has already shown he's great at predicting kabuto's moves.. so much so that Kabuto questioned if he was a sensor and ended the technique... Itachi would need only utilize an exploding clone bunshin feint to end the jutsu

 

[SeriousDogg]

I opened A thread exactly like that, and the Itachi fanboys cried and talked bullsh!t.

Kabuto>>>>>>>>>>>>ITACHI+SASUKE.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

With PIS/CIS off, Hakugeki could have been kept on the whole match. Thus, Izanami is completely useless on someone he cannot see or sense.

 

[Owarij]

With PIS/CIS off, Hakugeki could have been kept on the whole match. Thus, Izanami is completely useless on someone he cannot see or sense.

He took it off because it made no difference.. Itachi was still predicting his movements even with it up..

 

[Percy Jackson]

Look down below.....

 

[Percy Jackson]

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It is sad that you cannot distinguish between hyperbole and normal statements

Susanno's attacks are naturally fast ..whether it be susanno arrow, its punch or sword stripe.. its immense strength aids the weapons.. as seen with Orochimaru.. almost never before has someone been attacked so fast they couldn't finish

Now your saying susano is "fast" not lightning fast.. That's a big diff. Just to point out :Speed of the sound is "fast" but not even close to "lightning speed"...

That pic. Should help you to see that susano is not lightning speed..

Striking speed raikage is faster then susano, if you talk with 100% same quote as oro. Then somebody sucker punch you in a face without even finishing your words that should count as fast... How many words that oro. Says 3-4 words???

 

[Lilt]

Not really. White rage is enough to prevent susanno

Except it's not. Itachi used Susano'o during the jutsu.

Not to mention in terms of chakra kabuto has unlimited.

In Sage Mode, which Kabuto needs prep for.

 

[Lilt]

Striking speed raikage is faster then susano

That's definitely untrue.

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Nagato didn't even have time to use Shinra Tensei from 30+ meters away.

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Nagato blitzed Bee (which takes a lot less speed than just using Shinra Tensei.)

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Bee intercepted bloodlusted Raikage.

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A has nothing close to a feat like this, cutting off the heads of striking snakes so fast they hit the ground at once.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

it look obvious

 

[NarutoNoobCake]

He Neg-repped me once after i said "Fodder solos Itachi.."

Wow, just wow... for real?

 

[Percy Jackson]

That's definitely untrue.

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Nagato didn't even have time to use Shinra Tensei from 30+ meters away.

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Nagato blitzed Bee (which takes a lot less speed than just using Shinra Tensei.)

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Bee intercepted bloodlusted Raikage.

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A has nothing close to a feat like this, cutting off the heads of striking snakes so fast they hit the ground at once.

1) how dose nagato suppose to know where are all of his opponents are. All nagato see was smoke, then all sudden his eyes turn normal When the smoke is cleared, it reviled that the susano were hiding on smoke after all.. That's Y kabuto stated that nagato lacked of mobility.

2)Lol. U showed me Nagato blitzed bee nice.. But is it true??
Nagato use Shinra Tensei (standing on his invisible animal), It even knock down trees and all.. That wind was so strong, and it send bee rolling on the ground .When bee get up nagato try to att. him from behind. it's not speed blitzed. Maybe that's the reason Y U don't show the full page.

3)The scan that you show me that bee blocked the raikage's att. TRUE i remembered that.. BUT you do realize that when raikage pull his fist (before he throw att.), Tsunade could say a word, give me a reason why bee couldn't intercept it...Y?

**Speed scalling: bee in his 3rd.tail form says something that he was impressed that sasuke could keep-up speed with him other then his bro.(4th. raikage) at that form.
Another thing is sasuke can't really see raikage's full speed attack. But Y can bee without 3rd. tail?? look at the speed lv.

Like I said even tsunade can say a word, at a point where raikage pull his fist.. why can't bee intercept it.. Thought It was that simple to understand it...

4)About the cutting the hydra's head, you show me just the bottom of the page, but where is the previous pg. that shows the hydra att. at the same time? Also look at the page that you showed me, on top you can see the hydra att. the susano but fail! cuz susano is a wall of defense it self (or maybe because of yatta mirror )