Kabuto>Itachi even without Edo Tensei.

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Actually when he can't kill kabuto it means he can't use amaterasu, Btw. Susano with Totuska might not be good cuz it needs to pierce kabuto's body inorder to seal him. both nagato and oro. can't really move also if the totuska blade was fast why didn't anyone says it's fast? well cuz it's not really fast..
 

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Yeah, yeah Itachi didn't lose or die because he was EDO and Kabuto was only able to touch him because of all his stolen power, what does it matter Itachi won holding back, meanwhile Kabuto lost while not holding back as there was no point since Itachi was immortal.

We all know Sasuke did little to nothing in that fight.
 

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Actually when he can't kill kabuto it means he can't use amaterasu, Btw. Susano with Totuska might not be good cuz it needs to pierce kabuto's body inorder to seal him. both nagato and oro. can't really move also if the totuska blade was fast why didn't anyone says it's fast? well cuz it's not really fast..

Totsuka is attached to Sussanno which is described as lightning fast...it cut orochimaru before he could even finish the words in his sentence... why hasn't it been called fast?...It's only been used twice in the manga.. and sealed both people.... noone to talk about it huh?
 

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!Oblivion! is definitely the biggest Itachi **** rider in Narutobase.
Wath out he will negative rep you if you say bad stuff about Itachi no matter how valid the statement is.
 

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Yeah, yeah Itachi didn't lose or die because he was EDO and Kabuto was only able to touch him because of all his stolen power, what does it matter Itachi won holding back, meanwhile Kabuto lost while not holding back as there was no point since Itachi was immortal.

We all know Sasuke did little to nothing in that fight.
Kabuto was holding back he wanted to re-write Itachi's mind not defeat him. And Sasuke helped Itachi get some prep time which ended up making Kabuto get stuck in Izanami so Sasuke played a big part.
 

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Duh only Itachi fanboys say otherwise. He died like 2-3 times that fight if he wasn't edo, also got sound genjutsu.
 

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There's a reason Itachi never went all out against Kabuto.

The Totsuka would have defeated him. Amaterasu might before Sage Mode, too.

Think of it this way:

Itachi got Kabuto to use Sasuke's sword on him twice, via clone feint, to acitvate Izanami.

Does any ****tard Kabuto fan here realize how much harder that is than landing Amaterasu/Totsuka?

And that's beside the real point that Kabuto had nigh full knowledge on Itachi

And Itachi knew nothing little of Kabuto in their fight.

Otherwise, as Kabuto himself said: Itachi would control him like a puppet with genjutsu.
 

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not another sore loser, look dude kabuto was a bad kid, now hes on time out. Itachi only got hit once in the fight and that was to protect sasuke. again this fight was a mind game and guess what no matter how you look at it. Itachi > Kabuto all day every day :]
 

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There's a reason Itachi never went all out against Kabuto.

The Totsuka would have defeated him. Amaterasu might before Sage Mode, too.

Think of it this way:

Itachi got Kabuto to use Sasuke's sword on him twice, via clone feint, to acitvate Izanami.

Does any ****tard Kabuto fan here realize how much harder that is than landing Amaterasu/Totsuka?

And that's beside the real point that Kabuto had nigh full knowledge on Itachi

And Itachi knew nothing little of Kabuto in their fight.

Otherwise, as Kabuto himself said: Itachi would control him like a puppet with genjutsu.

But do you realize how many times he lost his life?

If sasuke wasnt there and he wasnt an edo, then i see no way of him pulling that off again.
 

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Itachi would be done for here if sasuke wasnt there to save him from the genjutsu

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Kabuto was holding back he wanted to re-write Itachi's mind not defeat him. And Sasuke helped Itachi get some prep time which ended up making Kabuto get stuck in Izanami so Sasuke played a big part.

Why hold back on a man who can't die, you're not making sense. Kabuto couldn't defeat him unless he re-wrote his mind, no need to hold back.

Sasuke also got in Itachi's way so I would say it balances out.
 

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not another sore loser, look dude kabuto was a bad kid, now hes on time out. Itachi only got hit once in the fight and that was to protect sasuke. again this fight was a mind game and guess what no matter how you look at it. Itachi > Kabuto all day every day :]
Notice how your statement is invalid by the manga which in the scans above clearly shoes him getting hit twice.
Ignorance at bliss.
 

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Why hold back on a man who can't die, you're not making sense. Kabuto couldn't defeat him unless he re-wrote his mind, no need to hold back.

Sasuke also got in Itachi's way so I would say it balances out.
Sasuke saved his life, look at the scans above you U_U
 

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But do you realize how many times he lost his life?

If sasuke wasnt there and he wasnt an edo, then i see no way of him pulling that off again.

Only once (in the first time with stalagmites, Kabuto clearly attributed it to Itachi instinctively protecting Sasuke.)

And it only matters if it's the exact same situation: where Itachi chooses not to kill Kabuto because of Edo Tensei.

Besides that, the second time was planned so that Kabuto would pick up the sword & complete Izanami.

Itachi showed no surprise.
 

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As for genjutsu, that's a terrible argument.

Itachi was in no way stressed by the situation, and the same method of using another Sharingan could be used by:

1. forming a clone

2. his Sharingan crow.

3. Unknown methods (Itachi is among the most skilled and knowledgeable genjutsu masters in history.)

The entire time he was "trapped," he was talking to Kabuto rather than breaking free. No stress.

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There's a reason Itachi never went all out against Kabuto.

The Totsuka would have defeated him. Amaterasu might before Sage Mode, too.

Think of it this way:

Itachi got Kabuto to use Sasuke's sword on him twice, via clone feint, to acitvate Izanami.

Does any ****tard Kabuto fan here realize how much harder that is than landing Amaterasu/Totsuka?

And that's beside the real point that Kabuto had nigh full knowledge on Itachi

And Itachi knew nothing little of Kabuto in their fight.

Otherwise, as Kabuto himself said: Itachi would control him like a puppet with genjutsu.


Not sure if you understand the situation that they were in was a stalemate. Itachi was an Edo which allowed him the use of his MS techs without a toll on his body and sasuke was to be captured. Not to mention kabuto was nerfed without his ET. Kabuto practically had counters to all of itachi's MS techs except for the asspull from kishi and the prep time that sasuke bought itachi. Not a kabuto fan btw.
 

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Not sure if you understand the situation that they were in was a stalemate. Itachi was an Edo which allowed him the use of his MS techs without a toll on his body and sasuke was to be captured. Not to mention kabuto was nerfed without his ET. Kabuto practically had counters to all of itachi's MS techs except for the asspull from kishi and the prep time that sasuke bought itachi. Not a kabuto fan btw.
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Not sure if you understand the situation that they were in was a stalemate. Itachi was an Edo which allowed him the use of his MS techs without a toll on his body and sasuke was to be captured. Not to mention kabuto was nerfed without his ET. Kabuto practically had counters to all of itachi's MS techs except for the asspull from kishi and the prep time that sasuke bought itachi. Not a kabuto fan btw.

Obviously, Kabuto with Edo Tensei is stronger, but read the thread title.

Having unlimited MS techniques is useless if you can't use them on the enemy, because you need him alive.

Or because he has knowledge on them and is closing his eyes.

Both Kabuto and Sasuke strongly implied that the Uchiha brothers could eradicate Kabuto if they wanted.

Kabuto kept reminding Itachi that he couldn't kill him if he wanted Edo Tensei undone.

Sasuke kept asking Itachi if he was sure they couldn't kill him.

Hell, Itachi was scolding Sasuke for not being careful enough by just ripping apart snake summons.

It's abundantly clear that Itachi (and by extension, Sasuke) were being very delicate, given the situation.
 
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