Kabuto had Counters for all Top tier ninjas

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Sound gen and white range are infinitely weaker out of a cave, and it's usefulness further decreases based on range.

Every time someone mentions kabuto, they mention these 2 jutsu and never even talk about their drawbacks or the fact that kabuto was in the perfect situation for them to be remotely useful.
 

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All the characters you mentioned are just way too fast for kabuto. They all (maybe even tobirama) can kill him before he can enter DSM. This is why he is below them.
Edo itachi and ems sasuke couldn't but they can? Lol OK

To answer your question OP,simply because top tens are popularity contests for most here.

Reviewing the facts:
1.itachi said he couldn't have used izanami against someone as strong as kabuto had he not been edo

2.kabuto is pretty much immortal.with his own healing techs,Karin's KKG,houzoki clans KKG,and orochimaru style sub's he can survive ANYTHING outside of kamui,totsuka blade and izanami

3.he killed itachi twice that fight

4.he,like the op said,has counters to most of the strongest jutsu shown.

5.he didn't want to harm sasuke

6.he didn't even use ET against them

If you consider all that and still don't put him in your top ten your just a hater
Plus TBB isn't working here.don't make me laugh.orochimaru tanked 4 tail narutos TBB low did and suigetsu survived 8 tails TBB.there's no way its killing him
 

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Kabuto was gathering nature energy for the entire war, if he was always in sage mode then why did it take him so long to enter DSM?

Hashirama & naruto can enter SM faster than he can & they arent gathering nature energy automatically, so it is safe to assume that his SM takes time, time that when put up against the top 5 will spell his defeat.

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It takes approximately 5 pages to enter DSM, & manga scans can be used in this case to measure time because the amount of dialogue that they share is considerable. It also shows that Itachi/sasuke were able to spot kabuto's snakes rather quickly.
You can't base your time off of # of manga pages considering time does not have a major relevance in the situation. It took 3 full chapters for 3mins to pass when Sakura and chiyo fought Sasori.Taken 300+ chapters for 1 24 hour war to take place. Also I was saying this is under the pretense that Kabuto is in SM. Besides you underestimate Kabuto survival especially since he can liquefy his body and perform Oral Rebirth. Feats no ninja knows he has EXCEPT orochimaru
 
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There were a lot of factors in that fight. Without knowledge, I agree that Kabuto has the upper hand in some areas outside the confines of the cave. Other than that, I don't agree.

Kabuto was gathering nature energy for the entire war, if he was always in sage mode then why did it take him so long to enter DSM?

Hashirama & naruto can enter SM faster than he can & they arent gathering nature energy automatically, so it is safe to assume that his SM takes time, time that when put up against the top 5 will spell his defeat.

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It takes approximately 5 pages to enter DSM, & manga scans can be used in this case to measure time because the amount of dialogue that they share is considerable. It also shows that Itachi/sasuke were able to spot kabuto's snakes rather quickly.
Naruto is slightly faster than Kabuto, but in no way is Hashirama faster than him in SM initiation. The entire dialogue exchange with Madara; it was far too long. I still laugh at such scenes, when Madara had no reason to NOT stop him. Anyways, I agree with the rest.
 

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You can't base your time stamp off of manga pages considering time does not have a major relevance in the situation.
So as I said you ignore the fact that much dialogue was going on during that preparation, & the fact that the sharingan saw kabuto's chakra before he finished.

It took 5-10 chapters for 3mins to pass when Sakura and chiyo fought Sasori.
Besides the point. The fact that Itachi/sasuke could find kabuto before he could enter DSM implies that it takes time. The fact that he had to hide to enter it also proves this. The dialogue is simply cementing this because there was much talking going on during its time.

As I was saying this is under the pretense that Kabuto is in SM.
Which is then prep. If you wan't to argue kabuto's power when he's already in SM then you must consider the fact that he needs preparation in order to do so, therefore putting him above ninjas who don't have any prep doesnt make sense.

Besides you underestimate Kabuto survival especially since he can liquefy his body and perform Oral Rebirth. Feats no ninja knows he has EXCEPT orochimaru
The entire top 5 can kill him via other means (which bypass his oral rebirth ability).
 

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You can't base your time off of # of manga pages considering time does not have a major relevance in the situation. It took 3 full chapters for 3mins to pass when Sakura and chiyo fought Sasori. As I was saying this is under the pretense that Kabuto is in SM. Besides you underestimate Kabuto survival especially since he can liquefy his body and perform Oral Rebirth. Feats no ninja knows he has EXCEPT orochimaru
I have seen Sasuke use it as well.
 

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So as I said you ignore the fact that much dialogue was going on during that preparation, & the fact that the sharingan saw kabuto's chakra before he finished.



Besides the point. The fact that Itachi/sasuke could find kabuto before he could enter DSM implies that it takes time. The fact that he had to hide to enter it also proves this. The dialogue is simply cementing this because there was much talking going on during its time.



Which is then prep. If you wan't to argue kabuto's power when he's already in SM then you must consider the fact that he needs preparation in order to do so, therefore putting him above ninjas who don't have any prep doesnt make sense.



The entire top 5 can kill him via other means (which bypass his oral rebirth ability).
They saw his chakra but did not know which one was which. If you relook at that scan there was plenty of chakra signatures in the cave and they could not distinguish which one was Kabuto. Sasuke saw Kabuto finally appear and shot an arrow at which he dodged.

You are turning this into a VS thread which it is clearly not. I was stating that he is one of the only shinobi that has counters for each specific top tier ninja.

Also for people stating that outside of a cave the white rage and sound gen is useless. You forget that Kabuto can create .
 

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Naruto is slightly faster than Kabuto, but in no way is Hashirama faster than him in SM initiation. The entire dialogue exchange with Madara; it was far too long. I still laugh at such scenes, when Madara had no reason to NOT stop him. Anyways, I agree with the rest.
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The way I see it, hashirama started gathering nature energy when he clasped his hands together like jiraiya did. & it took him 3 pages to enter SM, & there was less dialogue.

Hashirama's SM seems to be faster than kabuto's
 

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@Draphsin

It's about the pacing of dialogue. Look at Ellipsis. There is pause and then the shouting cannot possibly be a quick retort. I don't think it was quicker than Kabuto's but to each their own. Even Naruto's is only a hair-line faster.
 

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They saw his chakra but did not know which one was which. If you relook at that scan there was plenty of chakra signatures in the cave and they could not distinguish which one was Kabuto. Sasuke saw Kabuto finally appear and shot an arrow at which he dodged.
@Bold: wrong, they could not distinguish which one was the real kabuto, they both knew that his chakra was all over the place, but they needed him alive to undo the jutsu. If they grabbed the wrong one or killed the right one then their entire mission could've failed.

, Itachi was telling sasuke not to be too rough as he could possibly kill kabuto. Itachi was merely exercising caution by telling sasuke to be careful.

So my point still stands, kabuto would get hit via amaterasu if he tried to enter DSM, there is nothing stopping sasuke from doing so if he notices the chakra right away & maintains his distance whilst spamming amaterasu.

You are turning this into a VS thread which it is clearly not. I was stating that he is one of the only shinobi that has counters for each specific top tier ninja.
Only in DSM. DSM is prep. Okay konan has a counter for the most powerful dojutsu in existence, but it means nothing when she has to prep it first.

Yes he has counters, but can he use them in every situation? No not really.

Also for people stating that outside of a cave the white rage and sound gen is useless. You forget that Kabuto can create .
Susanoo, shinra tensei, hell even a rasengan can put a hole in that dome, lol.
 

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Kabuto's "counter" for Hashirama

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Hashirama snaps the poor snake in half with just two tendrils and calls it a day

This is thread is rather a poor attempt to boost itachi's image by claiming that kabuto was some unstoppable force and that itachi accomplished a super ultimate feat by barely defeating him even after having back-up

lol
 

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Thing is, Kabuto is strong if he is fighting in a cave. Out in the open field, he gets pulverized by top tier characters.
 
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