Kabuto deserves respect!

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yea hes pretty good :p I still dont really like him tho >_< when I first saw him I thought he was just some random character and that he would die soon enough but I was very wrong :O
 

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It's funny because we really don't know much of Kabuto's past. Just bits and pieces that glue together a sloppy image. It's very likely Kabuto might have something about him that will shock the Naruto world...but that's just pure speculation as there is no hint towards Kabuto having anything in his past that would surge new rumors and arguments...

As for Kabuto's true intentions, it is likely that he still actually wants Sasuke's eyes like Orochimaru did. If he is trying to master all Ninjutsu than he'll need the Sharingan
Later developing into the Rinnegan
to do it. Infact, how do we not know that Orochimaru's cells have taken over (are going to take over) Kabuto's body? It's always likely that something with Kabuto could happen as he doesn't have much development like the rest of the major characters.
 

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Kabuto just annoys me. He's a douchebag, plain and simple. I still see no reason to respect someone who's that lame and has one of the most boring personalities I've ever seen in anime. Of course, this is just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

Lmaoo XD
 

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So true :) +Rep Kabuto is way better villain than these boring Uchihas especially sasuke.
 

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he has a hater base , itachi fanboys.... they cannot accept kabuto is pretty much invincible and started a flame war on my thread...
 

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So does Hitler. They both did/doing the same thing. Leading a massive army and being a key-player in a war that effected the world.

Godwin's Law.

Anyway, Kabuto is a Grade-A bad-ass. He embodies what it means to be a Ninja! Keep in mind, that at one point in the series he was a TRIPLE-AGENT. Even then, it's debatable as to whether he was truly loyal to Orochimaru, as Kabuto tried to off Sasuke. Kabuto is amazing.
 

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He is still underated for some reason. Someone even said the 3rd hokage can beat him.
 

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he has a hater base , itachi fanboys.... they cannot accept kabuto is pretty much invincible and started a flame war on my thread...

I am an Itachi fan, and I never hated him.
 

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Kabuto is going to be the one that undo Tobi's plans. You just wait. This guy is deadly and Tobi should never have made a deal with someone as crazy as kabuto. The man a grave robber!
 

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Kabuto is going to be the one that undo Tobi's plans. You just wait. This guy is deadly and Tobi should never have made a deal with someone as crazy as kabuto. The man a grave robber!

Tru dat! Even if he is gonna fail, he will drag as many people down with him as possible.
 

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i agree..although he's like that i do respect him.. i know it's a little silly to say no offence but he is like naruto in some ways although hes on the wrong side and naruto is in the right side...
 

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Although I never hated or loved Kabuto, I am surprised by the lack of fans or even a strong hater base for him. I think he is one of the most interesting characters out there. Unlike most, he doesnt carry any "destiny" or "dreams" and most importantly, his character has never bothered us by soppy distracting flashbacks and all the time we have seen him, it has been in the most entertaining conflicts.

His major criticism is he is a wannabe Orochimaru, which I think is bull crap. Is utilizing what he has learned from someone strong and intelligent a drawback? Since SO6P gave birth to ninjutsu, are all ninjas wannabe rikudo? Even after Oro's death, whose motivations gave Kabuto a purpose in life, he picked himself up from a crony's status to becoming one of the key players in the fourth ninja war and he has still kept his real motivations a secret, which in my book deserves respect.

A.) You kind of pointed out some of the major issues with generating a fan base for him in your OP. I think what generates a fan base and haters, is having a character that is truly unique amongst the rest. For example, Deidara is one of my favorites. What's he known for principally his art. Is he alone in art? No. However, Kishi cleverly paired him with Sasori who had a directly opposing personality and view of what true art was. As well, Sasori only lasted a short while in the manga whereas Deidara lasted significantly longer in the manga and had a developed background and foreground. I'm not alone in being a fan as he was a top 10 in several weeks in Japan. That's not to say that I'm justifying my taste for him, but just to show that other people felt similarly. Further, he was very unique in his jutsu by using hands in hands and chests to mold special chakra clay to form explosive clay, that he molded into forms of artwork. Further, as Deidara would say, "Art is...a blast!" He had a philosophy that drove his ninjutsu, he didn't just blow crap up because that's what he was good at, it was because he thought it was art; otherwise, he could've just used a ball of clay to drop on someone instead of using little birds or centipedes for example. These things give a real dimension to the character and depth that allow the reader for better or worse to judge them and decide if this is someone who they will accept or reject based on whether they agree with this character's philosophy and personality. I personally accepted and enjoyed it, while others went the opposite way. Most importantly, no one else in the Narutoverse did things, nor has done things like Deidara except for perhaps Sai, but he has been developed such that his character is clearly distinct from Deidara despite his use of art for his ninjutsu since he's still learning what it means to be a person and not just a pure shinobi, as he was under Danzou in ANBU ROOT.

1.) Kabuto has no destiny or dreams according to your OP, the latter of which is incorrect, as we know he desires to know all the secrets of the Rikudou Sennin (that's why he's doing all this crap with Tobi, and stated as such a while back when he revealed that he had a "that jutsu" after revealing at least some of how Impure World Resurrection works). However, that desire isn't terribly original since several characters have desired that directly or indirectly including: Orochimaru (wanted to know all ninjutsu, clearly knows a ton about Rikudou Sennin as demonstrated by Kabuto's references to Orochimaru's knowledge), Tobi (essentially must want this to a degree in order to complete the Moon's Eye project, and has explained a great deal about the Rikudou Sennin to others such as Naruto and the Kage Summit), ET Madara (has mentioned Infinite Tsukiyomi, plans that Tobi is supposedly a part of or was, mentioned Nagato), Zetsu (kind of a mystery, but a confidant of Tobi in his plans and treated somewhat of an equal, kind of speculating to say more), and finally Sasuke may become involved in this as well as he seeks out more power as is his tendency. Thus, Kabutos desires don't really distinguish him from the other antagonists all that much except perhaps by his degree and focus of desire.

2.) Another point you made in your OP, there have been very limited flashbacks of Kabuto if I can recall any. Really, there's just been what Kabuto has recalled verbally about his past, which is really limited. Whereas the other major antagonists aside from Tobi and Zetsu who are intentionally being developed as mysteries (hence the masks with Tobi), and his intentionally misleading use of Madara's name for commanding respect and ease of manipulation, have been developed such as Sasuke and ET Madara the latter of which is continuously being developed as the fight with the 5 Kages continues as shown in the latest chapter. I would like to know more about Kabuto, it would help me care more about him. Give me a reason to care about him. How did he become Sasori's servant in Akatsuki for example? I would find that interesting. Why did he take his incredible skills in medical ninjutsu and turn them into the darker and more twisted nature, basically the opposite direction of Tsunade, given he was adopted and raised by the leader of the Konoha medical core? These are interesting questions that develop a character, at least in my opinion. :shrug:

3.) Kabuto has been involved in many major conflicts including the pre-time-skip, but until recently he hasn't been a central player until recently in any of them. In the invasion of Konoha all he did was cast the genjutsu really. In the battle of the Sannin, all he did was he get in toy battle with Tsunade who was about to kick his ass until he cut himself exploiting her fear of blood. Then he just served as a prop for Naruto to demonstrate his guts and perfect his Rasengan on. After the time-skip, when Naruto went 4 tails, at 3-tails he took Kabuto out of the fight with just a shout of chakra before anything happened between Naruto and Orochimaru, lol. Really, the 4th Great Ninja War has been his coming out party, and he's doing it by using a technique of Orochimaru's that he perfected, after he injected himself with Orochimaru's DNA making himself incredibly like Orochimaru. Further, his summons is just a genetically enhanced version of "Manda" called "Manda version 2", not terribly unique either. He couldn't come up with another name than tacking on "version 2?" lol :) Come on the guy's a genius... How lazy is that...

4.) The criticism that he's a wannabe Orochimaru is legitimate because of not just that he wants to follow in his footsteps and learn the same techniques but because he looks so similar, and since he has acquired his DNA has seemingly replaced his own personality and goals to a degree with those of his former master. Before, did Kabuto have any interest in Sasuke? Before, did he have any interest in learning and mastering the Rikudou Senin's secrets and powers? These were Orochimaru's goals. Kabuto was a medical shinobi whose desire seemed to master everything in that field including the kinjutsu and beyond. Since injecting himself with Orochimaru's DNA, he's noted that there's been a struggle within himself for control, which took him a while to develop stability. However, I don't think he's the same person he was beforehand, simply with Orochimaru's abilities added on. I believe he's a different person as a consequence. Before, he also didn't do the Orochimaru, "kukuku" verbal laugh, now he does, why? Further, he doesn't just have Orochimaru's DNA, he also has been acquiring his chakra such as via Anko to strengthen himself and become closer to Orochimaru. Thus, again we reach the same issue that Kabuto is not necessarily distinguishing himself from the pack of antagonists of past and present. This is a critical issue for Kishi to address at some point. How he'll do so, I'm not sure; however, I do believe he will.

5.) Finally, Kabuto has never been outside of the servant's role in the manga. When he was with Sasori, Orochimaru, and now Tobi. Ironically, even when he's betraying Tobi by summoning ET Madara to the battlefield, he's acting in the servant's role to ET Madara despite the fact that he is the summoner. This is a turn off for many fans I believe. Always being number two, being behind someone, usually means that fans are rooting for whoever is number one (i.e. Orochimaru, Tobi, or ET Madara). At some point, and I believe that this relates to what I was saying at the end of the last paragraph, I believe Kabuto will be either be vanquished as a number two or the person in front of him will be eliminated allowing Kabuto to step forward and flourish as a primary antagonist. The question then is, will he become distinctive, or will he just continue to have these issues, which I've laid out in this post. Ultimately only Kishi will know the answer and be able to address these points as he writes the manga. Nonetheless, these are the reasons why I believe that Kabuto has not seen the fan base that you feel he deserves despite his demonstrated might as a ninja during the 4th Great Ninja War. :)

Peace
 

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However, and this will sound cheezy, but all those attributes Hitler also obtained.

So does Hitler. They both did/doing the same thing. Leading a massive army and being a key-player in a war that effected the world.

Wow guys so much cliché no jutsu.

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

 

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Do you guys even know what ur saying?

So if I get two dead bodies and combine them then use a forbidden tech that wasnt even created by me I then proceed to call myself a genius?


Ah no people,

You wana what real genius are, people that actually devise new jutsu etc... minato(rasengan), naruto(wind rasnegan), sage mode(whom ever started that), modern ninjutsu, discovery of chakra(so6p), edo tensei(tobirama) etc....

You cant call someone a genius for copying someone else's work, I do worry about some of the post I read here.
 

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However we dont know if he's powerful yet
He hasnt shown any moves that orochimaru knew that he didnt know himself
He was already was studying Edo tensei when orochimaru was still in the world of the living

Edo tensei doesnt make you stong, That character he summons beats you not Kabuto

Jiraiya is not strong because all he does is use summon techniques for everything, even sage mode is maintained by ma and pa, which are summons.

Orochimaru was weak because like Jiraiya, he relied on summon variations mostly in battle, it is not his power.

Tayuya was weak and the onloy reason she beat shikamaru was because she summoned thos Doki's and had them fight for her until temari came.

And Naruto is weak because he has shadow clones fight for him throughout the series until he figures out a way to win.

Hiruzen is weak because most of his battle strength (raw power) comes from enma, like how enma pushed the kyubi back a bit.

The animal path is weak because all he does is spam summons and have them fight for him, that's the only reason he was beating Jiraiya around Ame.

Kidomaru was weak, all he did was spam spider summons on neji to overwhelm him.

You see where this is going?

Edo Tensei is a summoning technique variation, like Kabuto said when he was explaining the jutsu to Tobi, if he is weak for using that jutsu, then Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Animal path, and all those guys mentioned are weak for using the summoning technique and its variation as their main offensive ability.

Kabuto is a genious dawg, he was hailed pre shippudden as a jonin shinobi of the same level by Orochimaru and even Jiraiya acknowledged that fact and he pawned Tsunade in mere seconds even while he was holding back and trying his best not to kill her so that they can kidnap her and force her to heal Oro, while she on the other hand was blood lusted. The only time tsunade got even a hit on him was when he let his guard down and started laughing, not knowing that her big breast had saved her (literally) from being incapacitated. And even then, if he had been going for the kill like she was, she would be dead.

Tsunade also admited that Kabuto's regeneration technique was superior to even hers and tried to replicate it to heal Lee.

And not only did he implant Oro's dna without dying, something that is near impossible for normal people, like ask yourself who you know that has the intelligence and scientific knowledge to do that, but no he went further then that and completely subdued Oro's will that was trying to take over him and improved edo tensei to a level far beyond what Oro could do. Oro only managed three edo's at a time but Kabuto improved it to near unlimited, and he doesn't need to place seals on his edo's to control them, He also doesn't use up any chakra once an edo has been summoned and simply controls them unlike Oro.

And he took things further and created a FAR BIGGER and BETTER version of Manda through genetic engineering, something I don't think even Tsunade knows how to do, and has mastered all of Oro's snake techs.

Pre shippuden, Tsunade also admitted that Kabuto was stronger then she was at that age and more advanced in medical jutsu and so far he is the only one able to use the chakra scalpel proficiently in battle.

Was able to capture Yamato with ease and escape Kurotsuchi, Onoki, and Akatsutchi with RELATIVE ease.

Dude stop hating on Kabuto, he is one of the smartest and most talented shinobi in the series and maybe even the strongest in terms of raw power with his recent mastery and improvement of edo tensei and the 3rd best in espionage behind Zetsu and Konan, able to become a tripple agent for years.

Kabuto is boss mayn.
 

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Do you guys even know what ur saying?

So if I get two dead bodies and combine them then use a forbidden tech that wasnt even created by me I then proceed to call myself a genius?


Ah no people,

You wana what real genius are, people that actually devise new jutsu etc... minato(rasengan), naruto(wind rasnegan), sage mode(whom ever started that), modern ninjutsu, discovery of chakra(so6p), edo tensei(tobirama) etc....

u cant call someone a genius for copying someone else's work, I do worry about some of the post I read here.

I don't see how you can assasinate Kabuto's character for IMPROVING the edo tensei to a level FAR beyond what Oro and Tobirama could and then praise sage mode and fuuton rasengan, as if Naruto and Jiraiya created those themselves.

It wasn't even Naruto's idea to improve rasengan, Kakashi told him that it was what MINATO planned to do before he died unexpectedly and it was KAKASHI who came up with the shadow clone training, which Naruto couldn't even come up with despite being the primary user and spammer of that jutsu, without Minato's idea, and Kakashi's training method, there is no rasenshuriken for Naruto.

Besides that, since when has it been a sin to use a technique developed by someone else, Jiraiya and Naruto rely a lot on Minato's rasengan for offense, so are they not geniouses because they used someone elses jutsu?

also don't know what you were trying to prove by mentioning sage mode, as if Jiraiya and Naruto created sage mode, all they did was copy it from ma and pa, actually, they were walked through every single step by pa, didn't even copy it.

You're just a Kabuto hater, otherwise you wouldn't have come up with such lame excuses to downplay his power, sure, if you say Kakashi and his Raikiri, or Minato and his Hirashin and rsengan are better geniouses, understandable, but also remember that Kabuto has the dead soul jutsu and is the only known shinobi that can use chakra scalpels efficiently in battle.

And he genetically engineered a summon big and strong enough to rival the tortoise island that Bee and Naruto were hiding in, I'd like to see anyone else do that, especially the people you mentioned, cause not even Minato and Kakashi can do that, or shikamaru and shikaku for that matter.
 

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k here a bit Respects for Kabuto.
 
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