Juubito can be defeated by......

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NOTE :Its Gamakichi wherever I used Gamabunta Sorry (=D

Obito can be defeated by Ninjutsu as well as Senjutsu
The current chapter 643 only proved that....
Senjutsu >>>>>> Ninjutsu
That is why only option now is Senjutsu.
Obito can be harmed by Ninjutsu but the impact caused by Ninjutsu is not enough compared to what Senjutsu attacks can do.
The explanation about Ninjutsu not working will be discussed in the end.
Lets take a look at who all used Ninjutsu against Juubito

Hiruzen
Shadow Shuriken Jutsu (Ninjutsu)
But Obito breaks through it and blasts off Hiruzen's head
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Tobirama
Tobirama was torn into pieces at the start
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Tobirama used Instersecting Exploding Talismans (Ninjutsu)
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Obito survived
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He used Clone Jutsu (Ninjutsu) and his clone got destroyed.
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Naruto and Sasuke
They combined Amaterasu and Rasenshuriken (Ninjutsu)
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Obito got hit and was burned with a wound at the point of impact. But the wound was healing already as soon as the flames were taken care of.
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The thing which turns all the ninjutsus to nothing are those black orbs surrounding Obito. Obito is not completely immune to ninjutsus and Senjutsu.
The black orbs nullifies Ninjutsu.
Take a look at the theory again.
Hiruzen's Shurikens were cut in half by those black orbs changing its shape. Shurikens can wound Obito, but Obito protected himself with the help of those black orbs
Tobirama was regenerated back at the start because he was torn off by Obito and not by those black orbs.
Tobirama's Intersecting Exploding Talismans was nullified by the black orbs and the explosion was absorbed. Take a look Obito is surrounded by the black fluid.
Tobirama's Shadow clone was sacrificed to teleport the black orb which was about to explode near Naruto, Sasuke, Minato and Gamabunta. If Tobirama tried to teleport the blast by himself then he would be dead. Because his Edo Tensei body would be nullified by the explosion of the black orb.
But Obito eneveloped himself into the black fluid and escaped the blast
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Hiruzen's regeneration has nothing to do with Obito being Obito or Juubito. Hiruzen suffered a blow from the black orbs so that means Hiruzen won't be revived back. He's dead.

When Minato tried to attack Obito with his kunai, Obito's staff broke the kunai in two pieces and then Obito tear apart Minato's right arm. Obito sliced Minato's arm and stuck the black orb to Minato.
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That's the reason Minato's arm wasn't regenerating.

Now, Naruto and Sasuke's combo attack
It looked like the black orbs approached Obito and moved away the black flames from Obito's body.
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For a change lets go further, I'll be back to this point again

Gamabunta used Water Candy Cannon (Senjutsu)
Obito Shielded himself by manipulating the Black orbs.
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Take a look at the angle of attack in the above image. It's obvious there will be an angle because Gamabunta was at one corner and attacked Obito at an angle.
Now take a look at the angle of attack here :
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It is completely vertically downwards
Question arises
Why is he still struggling on nullifying the cannon attack when he shifted it from an angle to vertically downward?
The shift in the angle means he changed the direction of the cannon. So even if he just retracted back the black fluid, the senjutsu attack (the fluid) would fall on the ground due to gravity. But Obito was still sruggling against it. Why?
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That's where Naruto and Tobirama noticed it. And what I found what it can be is..
The black orbs was trying to absorb the fluid attack of Gamabunta. And that is why the absorption process led the fluid to stuck on the black fluid even when the gravity was acting against Gamabunta's attack. The black fluid cannot absorb Senjutsu attacks as rapidly as they absorbed the Amaterasu flames surrounding Obito, suffering a combo attack.

Naruto Sage mode Rasengan
Naruto's senjutsu rasengan put a deep wound on Obito's back compared to the (RS + Amaterasu)
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And compared to the time taken by the previous attack to heal, the time took by the wound to heal Senjutsu rasengan's attack was more.

This only means that Obito can suffer more damage from Senjutsu attacks compared to Ninjutsu.
Similarly the black orbs takes more time to absorb Senjutsu attacks compared to Ninjutsu.
The black orbs are also harmful to Obito even if he controls them. He cannot control the explosion of the black orbs and if caught can leave a damage to Obito also.

Since Senjutsu is more effective compared to Ninjutsu attack, only option Naruto has in his hands is to mix his Sage chakra with powerful Ninjutsu attacks of high rank otherwise Obito will only get healed from small damages and will be protected by the black orbs. And that will be the point when Madara will either use his trump card or take over Obito's body. The option of using the trump card is more since there exists a trump card =D

That's what my theory says guys. What do you guys think? =D​
 
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Gamabunta's Water Cannon is also senjutsu that's why he avoided it
 

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Gamabunta's Water Cannon is also senjutsu that's why he avoided it

Captian obvious

lol

OT: im still reading i will reply on topic in a moment lol i just thought that dude said something funny

Edit: This is all pretty obvious...and i disagree hiruzen will be back.. if tobirama got obliterated and came back then hiruzen will too. hiruzen was attack by juubi not obito, just as tobirama was so yeah...good read though
 
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You went through a lot of trouble to say something that's clearly stated in the manga and a majority of people would not dispute.
 

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You went through a lot of trouble to say something that's clearly stated in the manga and a majority of people would not dispute.

Tobirama said Ninjutsu won't work. I'm creating another point here
 

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Don't bother saying something to the thread creator if you failed to finish reading his thread.

Topic: I enjoyed your thread, I never really noticed some of the things you pointed out involving the black fluid/orbs. Are you sure Hiruzen is dead though? Two different versions of Juubito hit Hiruzen and Minato. Tobirama was hit and regenerated. (Not debating, just wondering.)

Initially Tobirama was hit by Obito himself and not by the black orbs. But Hiruzen got hit by black orbs. Its the black fluid that nullifies ninjutsu and not Obito himself
 

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Tobirama said Ninjutsu won't work. I'm creating another point here

No you're not. You're just stating the obvious that's left out of Tobirama's point. There is no actual difference between what you and Tobirama said, you just adding the, "because the black orbs negate all ninjutsu." at the end which Tobirama also said.
 

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No you're not. You're just stating the obvious that's left out of Tobirama's point. There is no actual difference between what you and Tobirama said, you just adding the, "because the black orbs negate all ninjutsu." at the end which Tobirama also said.

That's true but since the black orbs all the time are surrounding Obito it seemed to be like he's unaffected by Ninjutsu, but he got harmed by the RS + Amaterasu.
Tobirama explained the black orbs but then he explained as if Obito can only harmed by Senjutsu whereas I said that he can be harmed by Ninjutsu still. The only problem are the black orbs surrounding him. With those around, they can only lower the rate of impact of Senjutsu attacks. If Obito is separated out from those orbs, both Ninjutsu as well as Snejutsu can work.
 

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That's true but since the black orbs all the time are surrounding Obito it seemed to be like he's unaffected by Ninjutsu, but he got harmed by the RS + Amaterasu.
Tobirama explained the black orbs but then he explained as if Obito can only harmed by Senjutsu whereas I said that he can be harmed by Ninjutsu still. The only problem are the black orbs surrounding him. With those around, they can only lower the rate of impact of Senjutsu attacks. If Obito is separated out from those orbs, both Ninjutsu as well as Snejutsu can work.
how is it that anyone can beat him? when An Aliiance doesnt work
 

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And what if Madara's Trump Card is... Senjutsu?
 

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naruto only touched jubbito thanks to tobirama.

w/o help he would still be fodderized, fact.
 

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naruto only touched jubbito thanks to tobirama.

w/o help he would still be fodderized, fact.

Nobody cares about you. That wasn't the point of the thread. But I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who is borderline retarded.
 

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I agree with this thread.
 

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naruto only touched jubbito thanks to tobirama.

w/o help he would still be fodderized, fact.

and who has sasuke touched, other than his useless self?

you better relax before you get banned again for going to every thread trying to start flame....oh and change that avatar....
 
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