Juubi vs Rikudou

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The more I see the Juubi the more I believe that it wasn't just the Sage in combat with the Juubi. If we go by what makes sense the Rikudou was a Sage when he fought the Juubi he did not have the Rinnegan or any super juubi defeating powers.

I would be willing to bet that the Rikudou was a master of Senjutsu and that he knew far more about it than the toads slugs or snakes. The only way I can see him being able to at least keep up is if he could use Senjutsu with no limit, ie he could gather it while moving. Tbh I think the nature of gathering senjutsu is a state of mind rather then the body. Staying still just helps you reach that lvl of peace. That would explain some what how the heck the Sage was able to seal the creature and balance it with his chakra, he could use Senjutsu all the time to balance and hold back the Juubi. He isnt like Naruto at all who probably has larger chakra reserves then him by virtue of being a Jinchūriki since birth. The Sage made this a moot point by gathering an equally large amount of Senjutsu as the Juubi, normally he wouldn't have been capable of this feat because it would over balance his own reserves killing him, but because he has the juubi he can balance these two chakras against each other. In a really weird way he himself became a Bijuu by sealing the juubi.

But back to another point I was wanting to make, I doubt the Sage was alone when he fought the juubi theres just no way he would be powerful enough, hes a human sure a really powerful one but still human. What the Sage became after the sealing is decidedly more than human. Perhaps there was a similar situation as is happening now, juubi vs everyone? The sage was perhaps a leader or perhaps like naruto just one of many trying to stop the creature. Come on if there was a creature like that walking around capable of blowing up stuff half a world away wouldn't it be in everyone's interest to stop it? There must have been a unified alliance of some sort between all the peoples of that era to try and stop it.

In all honesty I think naruto will have to discover how to do this, either that or there will be some sort of super tailed beast mode combining all the chakra apart from shikaku, it would probably only work for minutes, a one time deal super power up.
 
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He was born with the rinnegan, although it wasn't stated anywhere, it dosen't state he gained it.. so none of us are right, although i doubt their existed anyone on the mental and physical level to fight the juubi, the sage Was the father of ninjutsu, so if he never had the rinnegan he still had his Creation of all things, and the jutsu he thus already mastered.
 

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He was born with the rinnegan, although it wasn't stated anywhere, it dosen't state he gained it.. so none of us are right, although i doubt their existed anyone on the mental and physical level to fight the juubi, the sage Was the father of ninjutsu, so if he never had the rinnegan he still had his Creation of all things, and the jutsu he thus already mastered.
We have never seen Rikudou before fighting the Juubi, only after. But yeah it's possible he was born with Rinnegan, since he is an god.

If he fought perfected Juubi with Madara and Obito then he would have lost
 

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Nope, The Juubi is the source of all these doujutsu your wrong if you think the Sage just appeared from nowhere to fight the Juubi and win with his awesome rinnegan techs. No way. I'd also like to know why everyone seems to think its impossible for this hypothesis to be correct. If you think its wrong point out where it is wrong with logic, present us with the logic behind the concept that the Rikudou had the Rinnegan from birth.

Why I think he wasn't alone is the whole bond theme Kishi has got going, so the greatest most powerful ninja ever didnt have anyone watching his back no friends to help him defeat this monster? Nah doesnt fit with what kishi is trying to write. Not only that but without the Rinnegan I don't see how the Sage could defeat the Juubi on his lonesome regardless of his power.
 
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I agree. It doesn't make since that in a manga about friendship how a guy would go one on one with the 10 tails and save the world. It makes since the Sage had help and gained the Rinnegan and his god powers after he sealed the 10 tails inside himself.

It would explain a great deal.
 

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Do you see anyone else there with the so6p I dont and this appeared in the anime and the manga the so6p soloed te juubi he is freakin op just deal with it he isn't god of naruto for no reason
 

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Rikudou didn't fight juubi alone. He teamed up with itachi.
My explaination: itachi used his sharingan to go back at that time and he helped the rikudou defeat and seal the juubi.
 

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Maybe he wasn't alone but not with others. Me might have had the original sage animals, the great elder toad, great elder snake (maybe even a slug, even tho this isnt known to exist) and they helped him with his senjutsu
 

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Yeah nice picture whats behind the Rikudou though? From where POV of the image is? And tbh I wouldn't be sure that kishi has let the cat out of the bag on this issue, we basically know nothing about what happened apart from the end resolution.
 

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Yeah nice picture whats behind the Rikudou though? From where POV of the image is? And tbh I wouldn't be sure that kishi has let the cat out of the bag on this issue, we basically know nothing about what happened apart from the end resolution.
So6p is the boss that's why he soloed the juubi alone and saved the world like a boss just accept reality
 

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Do you see anyone else there with the so6p I dont and this appeared in the anime and the manga the so6p soloed te juubi he is freakin op just deal with it he isn't god of naruto for no reason
Also compare the juubi with its newer form in the manga. I'd say its different cause it doesn't have the whole 9 and eight tails. Yeah I agree ATM he was the only man with ninjutsu so who would be there with him? Back then there was no war so even if someone did fight with The sage they would be too pissed scared or breakdown because they don't have the mental stability to go against the Juubi. So they would be useless and just get in the way of the Sage. So be it, he was alone.
 
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