[VS] Juubi Jin Madara VS Kaguya

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

It's irrelevant, Hagaromo himself stated she was even stronger than him, please look at the edited post.

once again, hagoromo referred to one rinnigan Madara trying to obtain the power to use IT.

 

[Blunt]

once again, hagoromo referred to one rinnigan Madara trying to obtain the power to use IT.

Hagaromo admitted inferiority to Kaguya, and Hagaromo > Madara. It's not up for discussion.

Hagaromo is a wielder of the Double Rinnegan and he had enough chakra as a ghost to turn Sasuke and Naruto into gods. Two halves of him were capable of defeating Madara with high/extreme difficulty.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

FYI, I respect everyone's opinions and input, so do think I am trying to belittle you or be a smartass, I will accept if I am wrong, but until you can definitely prove it to me, I will defend my opinion, note, this is my OPinion, Im not stating this as a fact. Which is why I said HIGH DIFF.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Hagaromo admitted inferiority to Kaguya, and Hagaromo > Madara. It's not up for discussion.

Said 1 rinnigan eye madara was alsmot as powerful as he is, also said that 1 rinnigan Madara was trying to obtain Kaguya's power. He did gain Kaguya's power. Non Juubi Jin Hagoromo isn't as powerful as you might think. He only seemed legendary because at HIS time nobody had ever seen feats like his.

 

[Bronze]

Madara wins, mid diff.​

 

[RustledJimmies]

Kaguya stomps.

Hagaromo admitted inferiority to Kaguya, and Hagaromo > Madara. It's not up for discussion.

Hagaromo is a wielder of the Double Rinnegan and he had enough chakra as a ghost to turn Sasuke and Naruto into gods. Two halves of him were capable of defeating Madara with high/extreme difficulty.

Lol if you think Madara can push Nardo and Sasuke to high/extreme difficulty.

 

[Blunt]

Said 1 rinnigan eye madara was alsmot as powerful as he is, also said that 1 rinnigan Madara was trying to obtain Kaguya's power. He did gain Kaguya's power. Non Juubi Jin Hagoromo isn't as powerful as you might think. He only seemed legendary because at HIS time nobody had ever seen feats like his.

Hagaromo created the moon on his deathbed. As a ghost, he turned Naruto and Sasuke into people who can threaten Madara's life, where as before they were absolutely helpless in front of him. He also still retained his Goudama, so yes, Hagaromo is certainly as powerful as I think.

Kaguya stomps.



Lol if you think Madara can push Nardo and Sasuke to high/extreme difficulty.

Coming from the man who thinks Sasuke alone takes Madara comfortably, lol. When Madara gained his second Rinnegan, he gained access to all Six Paths and his full power, PS. Which would undoubtedly be superior to Sasuke's considering he has more of Rikudo's chakra.

Madara has shown Deva Path abilities (Tengai Shinsei and Chibaku Tensei), Preta Path, Outer Path, basic elemental control granted by the Rinnegan and mastered Yin-Yang Release. He definitely has all the paths, he just never used them due to PIS.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Kaguya stomps.



Lol if you think Madara can push Nardo and Sasuke to high/extreme difficulty.

Madara never even had the chance to go all out, just when we were about to see it, BZ stepped in

 

[RustledJimmies]

Coming from the man who thinks Sasuke alone takes Madara comfortably, lol.

By feats alone, he indeed does, and I believe I proved it multiple times. Although hype and portrayal favor Madara, pushing Naruto and Sasuke to high, let alone extreme diff is nothing but pure wank.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Hagaromo created the moon on his deathbed. As a ghost, he turned Naruto and Sasuke into people who can threaten Madara's life, where as before they were absolutely helpless in front of him. He also still retained his Goudama, so yes, Hagaromo is certainly as powerful as I think.

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He didn't do it alone, remember his brother helped seal her. As a ghost, he just gave Sasuke and Naruto his chakra. Im sure if Madara gave Sasuke and Naruto his chakra he same thing. Obito gave kakashi his chakra and for a limited time, Kakashi was top 5.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

By feats alone, he indeed does, and I believe I proved it multiple times. Although hype and portrayal favor Madara, pushing Naruto and Sasuke to high, let alone extreme diff is nothing but pure wank.

All forms of Madara except old man rivers form, can solo any form of sasuke, with mid. high diff at best.

 

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By feats alone, he indeed does, and I believe I proved it multiple times. Although hype and portrayal favor Madara, pushing Naruto and Sasuke to high, let alone extreme diff is nothing but pure wank.

Except the fight never happened, it was interrupted. Technically speaking Sasuke and Naruto are sitting ducks until the light from IT is over, he can obliterate Susano'o with Tengai Shinsei and multiple CT meteors.

He does have all the paths as well, he just never used them due to PIS/CIS. Read my edit.

 

[RustledJimmies]

All forms of Madara except old man rivers form, can solo any form of sasuke, with mid. high diff at best.

Ok, thanks for helping me see that you shouldn't be taken seriously (though I should have realized it when you claimed that Madara > Kaguya, but oh well...).

When Madara gained his second Rinnegan, he gained access to all Six Paths and his full power, PS. Which would undoubtedly be superior to Sasuke's considering he has more of Rikudo's chakra.

Which is why I said "By feats alone", and "by feats alone" we didn't see Madara's PS, so we don't really know how strong it is.

Madara has shown Deva Path abilities (Tengai Shinsei and Chibaku Tensei), Preta Path, Outer Path, basic elemental control granted by the Rinnegan and mastered Yin-Yang Release. He definitely has all the paths, he just never used them due to PIS.

I believe Sasuke has already shown to be able to cut down any and every single one of his meteors, they're not a problem here, nothing else you mentioned is gonna help Madara here, at all.

Except the fight never happened, it was interrupted.

When did I say it did ?

Technically speaking Sasuke and Naruto are sitting ducks until the light from IT is over,

Ok then.

he can obliterate Susano'o with Tengai Shinsei and multiple meteors.

Like I said, the meteors were already countered in canon, they're not helping Madara here.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Ok, thanks for helping me see that you shouldn't be taken seriously (though I should have realized it when you claimed Madara > Kaguya, but oh well...).

I like how you have NO COUNTER argument, rather, you try to dismiss it acting as if you know it all, lol. And you talk about being taken seriously

 

[HiddenSound]

All forms of Madara except old man rivers form, can solo any form of sasuke, with mid. high diff at best.

Old Man Rivers is a tough bastard.

 

[Blunt]

All forms of Madara except old man rivers form, can solo any form of sasuke, with mid. high diff at best.

That's just pushing it, Double Rinnegan Shinju Madara is the only version of Madara that can defeat Sasuke.

 

[RustledJimmies]

I like how you have NO COUNTER argument, rather, you try to dismiss it acting as if you know it all, lol. And you talk about being taken seriously

Counter to what ? When did you provide me any arguments ? Or am I missing something here ?

 

[wael reda]

Ok, thanks for helping me see that you shouldn't be taken seriously (though I should have realized it when you claimed Madara > Kaguya, but oh well...).



Which is why I said "By feats alone", and "by feats alone" we didn't see Madara's PS, so we don't really know how strong it is.



I believe Sasuke has already shown to be able to cut down any and every single one of his meteors, they're not a problem here, nothing else you mentioned is gonna help Madara here, at all.



When did I say it did ?



Ok then.



Like I said, the meteors were already countered in canon, they're not helping Madara here.

You say sasuke beats madara easily and get surprised to a person says madara beats kaguya high diff Lol
He/she is much more reasonable person than you ,don't act like if he/she was mad

Madara has everything sasuke has except for s/t,amatrasu but instead he has 5limbo,full powered double rinningan ,immortality, gudomas,super regeneration, The third eye,IT,jiubi chakra,rikudo senjutsu,jiubi domas ,mouktun....etc

 

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@RustledJimmies, after Madara uses IT, Tengai Shinsei and Chibaku Tensei can be utilized. Naruto would have already used his six Goudama for TBBFRS to destroy the wave of meteors prior, meaning he lacks the firepower to destroy anymore. Sasuke can't make a difference as he is forced to not break formation or else Naruto will get caught in IT.

Madara can also just come from the bottom with Mokuton.

 

[RustledJimmies]

You say sasuke beats madara easily and get surprised to a person says madara beats kaguya high diff Lol
He/she is much more reasonable person than you ,don't act like if he/she was mad

Madara has everything sasuke has except for s/t,amatrasu but instead he has 5limbo,full powered double rinningan ,immortality, gudomas,super regeneration, The third eye,IT,jiubi chakra,rikudo senjutsu,jiubi domas ,mouktun....etc

More reasonable person ? Lol did you even read this ?

All forms of Madara except old man rivers form, can solo any form of sasuke, with mid. high diff at best.

K then, is that an argument or are you just listing their techniques ?