Ur A>B>C logic belongs in DBZ.
Naruto not havin whiskers or red eyes means ntn since this form was attained by willingly asking kurama for his chakra after his was drained which resulted in a constant cloak which was shredding the ground with every step, this was basically a KCM cloak, so back in the forest of death wen naruto unleashed his red eyes against oro that automatically makes it>the cloak?, its the same with his KMC used in p2 which is>KNO
Also how could kaiten be at full power when it lacked the spin?.
3t Sasuke could only track naruto so easily because of the subtle way power entered his body plus naruto is not that skilled in taijutsu.
SRA Neji's striking speed >naruto + skill an the fact that sasuke cant block his strikes like with naruto since a slight glance is enough to stun him.
However Kakashi had no such way, that why he considered dodge impossible as would have to at least put two or even three step aside, which take much more time then just begin to spin your body, don't you think ?
Lol. Kakashi>>>Kid Neji in speed. If Kid Neji can react to those, and spin as a result, there is no doubt in my mind Kakashi would evade them faster. It's not that spinning around is faster than sidestepping (because it isn't) it's just a matter of who's faster.
Kido's arrows have better speed/power feats bein smaller yet is able to pull nearby rooted trees with how much fire force it carried, it also leaves behind a impact crater far larger than sasuke's and each time the arrows were shot from a farther distance than any of sasuke's MS feats yet it bypassed a forest of rocks/tree's to instantly hit neji.
Whats MS Sasuke's best piercing/power feat with arrow ?.
piercing danzo's body an not leaving a significant crater in the ground?
piercing danzo's tree an still not leaving a significant crater in the ground?
Or piercing a tree sized cave cave column an still not bein able to fully plow through the column?
There's no way Kido's arrows are faster than Sasuke's Susanoo's arrow. Not a chance especially when Kakashi is much more superior to Kid Neji in terms of speed and reflexes and was forced to resort to Kamui to warp it.
Neji easily dodged Kido's arrow which are actually very fast but Sasuke's Susanoo arrows are much more faster if they forced someone like Kakashi to used Kamui when Kid Neji could physically move and dodge Kido's. There's also no way it's stronger.
Kido's arrows have better speed/power feats bein smaller yet is able to pull nearby rooted trees with how much fire force it carried, it also leaves behind a impact crater far larger than sasuke's and each time the arrows were shot from a farther distance than any of sasuke's MS feats yet it bypassed a forest of rocks/tree's to instantly hit neji.
Since it seems neji has access to vacuum wall palm in this battle, that alone will shit on V4 since:
-The moment his chakra builds up for susano an its activated, neji seein this an bein the genius he is would logically blast the "Chakra construct' with wall palm ( jyuken chakra ) which will pinpoint the most vulnerable area which if it doesn't destroy it with the initial blast would surely destroy it with the violent shockwave push sendin the damaged susano into the bridge while sasuke cries in agony from cell pain an loses his light.
All other versions of susano are handled with more ease.
omg the neji wank. so sasuke is just casually going to stand there and allow neji walk up to his soosano and blast it??? the moments he gets anywere near enton magatamas from that soosano fries him or sasuke smashes him with soosano fist or grabs him and smashes him to the ground. what is with this hyuuga fapping???
^^ well it could be truth but keep in mind Byakugan seems to see things in slow motion when they enter their vision. It would buy enough time for Neji to spin.
Lol. Kakashi>>>Kid Neji in speed. If Kid Neji can react to those, and spin as a result, there is no doubt in my mind Kakashi would evade them faster. It's not that spinning around is faster than sidestepping (because it isn't) it's just a matter of who's faster.
well I will not argue that Neji is lower, however as I said Byakugan vision slow down time for Hyuuga when something entier field of view so Hyuuga can force his body to react eariler then it would be normally.
Anyway air palm wall would takes care of arrow and disperse it or at least alter it direction.
There's no way Kido's arrows are faster than Sasuke's Susanoo's arrow. Not a chance especially when Kakashi is much more superior to Kid Neji in terms of speed and reflexes and was forced to resort to Kamui to warp it.
Neji easily dodged Kido's arrow which are actually very fast but Sasuke's Susanoo arrows are much more faster if they forced someone like Kakashi to used Kamui when Kid Neji could physically move and dodge Kido's. There's also no way it's stronger.
Nope, Neji doddge Kido's arrow barerly and only because the moment arrow enter vision of Byakugan Neji could see it moving in slow motion, same would happen to Sasuke's Susanoo arrows. There is nothing to back up claim that Susanoo arrows are even faster a bit.
Of course Susanoo arrows are stronger/more powerfull, although Kidomaru 's arrows made of golden material should be not understimated as they are tougher and thicker then Kidomaru's web for which Sasuke needed Full Skeleton Susanoo swinging it's Enton covered blade to cut through them.
EDIT: Actually Kidomaru's arrows were made of special golden metal, which according to Kidomaru himself is more harder and tougher then web, also it can block any chakra...
U are a debater i respect very much because ur points are valid an are well thought out, but tell me why neji with his byakugan cant see the build up for susano plus the arrow bein pulled back an ready to fire to which he can create a chakra bubble which will deflect the incoming arrow causing it to change course an give neji the means to avoid the arrow similarly to old man danzo?, are u sayin he fires the arrow before neji can simply expel chakra from his tenketsu or that the arrow would just ignore the bubble an maintain its original course?
Dont flame me for this but in terms of feats kido's arrows are faster an stronger than sasuke's.
Are u trying to prove my point about kido's arrows bein> sasuke's by feats?
Sasuke piercing old man danzo's body from that distance an was not strong enough to pierce its way farther into the bridge prove's wat? that sasuke's are larger an more deadly?.
Sasuke was in eyes view of danzo the whole time yet danzo could still form a seal, if sasuke had shot his arrow from this distance then danzo who finds it hard to evade kunai is gonna do more than simply form a seal not to mention the forest of trees it would have to plow through
Where is ur proof showin MS arrows having more power/ piercing capabilities an speed than kido's arrows?
Kido's were smaller yet generated the force to bend rooted trees like they were in a hurricane by just flyin by, so again where is the proof?
sasuke is just casually going to stand there and allow neji walk up to his soosano and blast it??? the moments he gets anywere near enton magatamas from that soosano fries him or sasuke smashes him with soosano fist or grabs him and smashes him
*****s sleeping on neji's reaction speed so bad its sad.
I want u to try an count how many knifes were right in neji's face + bindin webs an know that ur answer would still be less than the actual amount since they surrounded him from all sides yet he only got taged by 3 because of his blindspot
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Danzo who died from 3 kunai was able to form a seal inbetween the time susano arrow was fired from a farther distance than those knifes neji had to react to an evade
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So how in the blue moon is a war neji failing to react to that same arrow especially if his byakugan gives him the heads up to activate a chakra bubble to divert the course an give neji extra leverage to avoid the shot with a side step similarly to danzo an his tree??..
People sleep on neji way too much.
^^ well it could be truth but keep in mind Byakugan seems to see things in slow motion when they enter their vision. It would buy enough time for Neji to spin.
You need to move to use that. Neji can't even react. There's also the fact that the second arrow would kill him since he won't be able to deflect the first one, and then attack again to deflect the second one in time.
You need to move to use that. Neji can't even react. There's also the fact that the second arrow would kill him since he won't be able to deflect the first one, and then attack again to deflect the second one in time.
It seems she could see everything with time passing slower as she saw each detail of transformation, while in real time:
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^^ it went like that.
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^^ It was shown that then Kido's thing entered Neji vision he was able to react and thanks to layer of chakra around him, he could alter it's direction avoiding attack
Yes there is, no matter how you twist that, the manga panels about same speed of arrows, and Neji was almost able to dodge, if he can move even barerly he can easily use air palm wall to push it back
You need to move to use that. Neji can't even react. There's also the fact that the second arrow would kill him since he won't be able to deflect the first one, and then attack again to deflect the second one in time.
Yes, he can it seems that Susanoo arrows is much bigger so neji would not espace it either as he is slower then Kakashi but air palm would work, just like any strong shockwave.
If he uses it efficently with one hand then second arrow will be reflected by another air palm wall, and it seems it doesn;t take toll on Hyuuga or massive chakra drain which in the end would allow Neji to outlast MS Sasuke.
Once again, it's absurd to think Kidomaru's arrow is stronger and faster than Sasuke's Susanoo arrow. Especially when PawsX showed scans..Especially when Kakashi was forced to use Kamui against it while Kid Neji could physically move and dodge Kidomaru's arrow.
Once again, it's absurd to think Kidomaru's arrow is stronger and faster than Sasuke's Susanoo arrow. Especially when PawsX showed scans..Especially when Kakashi was forced to use Kamui against it while Kid Neji could physically move and dodge Kidomaru's arrow.
But the logic is not somethng common in narutoverse, just take recent examples from Naruto manga chapters.
Chidori was able to stalemate with casual tbb
Or base rasengan matching chidori enhanced with enton, not even mentioning that enton chidori combo didnt have right to work/exist.
Is that enough or should I go further ?
All it matter are manga panels which we can use to calculate speed or power using pixel scaling.
And by pixel scaling kido arrows travel as fast as susanoo arrows. About the power susanoo arrows take this but the gap is not such big deal according to many unbiased calculations.
Also last advice, the fact that something came earlier in manga then something other does not make it inferior, just take example of orochimaru in part 1 or itachi tsukyiomi used against kakashi. You dont see anyone dowplaying them only because these were part 1 feats.
Also Neji was promoted to jonin rank at the begining of part 2, as prodigy and stubborn shinobi to train he only could became stronger U_U
Once again, it's absurd to think Kidomaru's arrow is stronger and faster than Sasuke's arrow. Especially when Kakashi was forced to use Kamui against it while Kid Neji could physically move and dodge Kidomaru's arrow.
When it comes to compairing speed/reaction, distance is something u have to take into consideration. Danzo was able to form a seal an activate isanagi before the arrow could reach him. Byakugan would see arrows bein preped an time to expel chakra bubble which will deflect the the course an give neji leverage to physically move and dodge the arrow more effectively than danzo an kakashi.
The arrows shot by kido covered more distance in less time an with more resistance than susano arrows.
Neji has reacted to point blank assaults which would obviously be faster than sasuke's arrow bein preped an fired because of distance, check my above post, if kid neji can react to dozens of kunai point blank+webs then he reacts to sasuke's with sight+chakra+side step.
PawsX scans prove that danzo had time to form a seal before the arrow got him, Kido's arrow covered a much farther distance in the same time an with a entire forest of trees to plow through yet instantly reached neji before he could even blink. I want u to put danzo in the same location an same distance, do u honestly believe danzo wouldn't be able to physically move and dodge sasuke's arrow or even ignore it since it would hav a forest to plow through while sasuke's arrow got diverted by a single tree?.
Not only did kido's arrow instantly cleared a good portion of the forest but it was able to reach neji without him bein able to physically dodge, an he has the byakugan to see the incoming shot.
Kid Neji has shown some of the best reaction feats in the manga, bein able to react to dozens of kunai raining down from all sides point blank.
