Juubi(7 bijuu)= Juubi(8,5 bijuu)???!!!!

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Dumb question.. but if you just take a piece of chakra from every bijuu and sealed in within the mazo. the difference in power between those pieces of chakra and a full bijuu chakra would be nothing?
Yes it would. In terms of chakra power there wouldnt be any. Is there a difference in chakra power from fresh SM naruto and the one that wasted some chakra already? No only difference is in available chakra.
Oh, I am the retard?
Hell yeah.
So you're basically saying that naruto is almost equal to madara. That's what you're saying. Naruto has the chakra of 7 bijuu, so, as the quantity is irrelevant, which is the idea you're defending, naruto should be close to obito in power, if not equal.
No idiot i never said that. Biju chakra doesnt equal juubi chakra to beging with. Not that the retard would know.
Your logic is fantastic.
I guess you didn't even read the rest in which I mentioned the "potent" part. Why don't you go back to first grade before comming here? That's what you need.
You still dont get it.
Chakra power is the same among all juubi jins quantity isnt. The best example is BM naruto with 100% stamina vs BM naruto with 90% stamina. 1st naruto has more chakra but not more powerful one.
 
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Yes it would. In terms of chakra power there wouldnt be any. Is there a difference in chakra power from fresh SM naruto and the one that wasted some chakra already? No only difference is in available chakra.
Hell yeah.
No idiot i never said that. Biju chakra doesnt equal juubi chakra to beging with. Not that the retard would know.

You still dont get it.
Chakra power is the same amont all juubi jins quantity isnt. The best example is BM naruto with 100% stamina vs BM naruto with 90% stamina. 1st naruto has more chakra but not more powerful one.
Not it wouldn't. You're so f*cking stupid.

The retard I see in here is you.

Yes, you said that. The juubi is the combination of the bijuu's chakra. Naruto has chakra from most bijuu. And accorindg to your post in this very reply, the first one, then naruto would be close to obito(jin). Not that the retard would understand his own statements.

Except that naruto 100% kyuubi> Naruto 50% kyuubi, for exemple. You're adding more power to the bijuu. Bijuu's chakra is power, as we've seen. This is so obvious. You're adding more power to the juubi.
 
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Yes it would. In terms of chakra power there wouldnt be any. Is there a difference in chakra power from fresh SM naruto and the one that wasted some chakra already? No only difference is in available chakra.
Hell yeah.
No idiot i never said that. Biju chakra doesnt equal juubi chakra to beging with. Not that the retard would know.

You still dont get it.
Chakra power is the same among all juubi jins quantity isnt. The best example is BM naruto with 100% stamina vs BM naruto with 90% stamina. 1st naruto has more chakra but not more powerful one.
ok one last question... since naruto has almost every piece of the bijuus power. he'll be on par with Juudara in power? :p
 

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Oh, I am the retard?

So you're basically saying that naruto is almost equal to madara. That's what you're saying. Naruto has the chakra of 7 bijuu, so, as the quantity is irrelevant, which is the idea you're defending, naruto should be close to obito in power, if not equal.

Your logic is fantastic.

I guess you didn't even read the rest in which I mentioned the "potent" part. Why don't you go back to first grade before comming here? That's what you need.
Potent as to chakra power which is what im ****ing saying all the time idiot. Madara simply has more chakra but the power of it is the same. You goddamn retard.
What's funny is you guys are both wrong with the support for your arguments. Alpha is just plain wrong altogether.

Madara is stronger than Obito as the Juubi's Jin because Madara's power surpasses Obito's when the Juubi isn't involved, and he has Sage Mode on top of having the Juubi. Its not because one Juubi had more chakra than the other, and they aren't equal because a piece of the chakra offers as much power as the full thing, lmao, that is obviously false if you can clearly read the manga.

-If you don't revive the Juubi with all its chakra or close to all its chakra, it'll take an incomplete form and will have to take in external energy in order to reach its original form and power. Here is a comparison of the Juubi's two revivals.

Madara has all the Bijuu minus half of Kurama

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The following shows it powering up by taking in energy, so it can return to its original form.

-Shikaku's statement. [ ]

-Takes in energy and bulks up. [ ]

-Gyuki states its returning to its original shape, not simply transforming. [ ]

The Juubi Madara absorbed, the one Obito absorbed, and the one Rikudo fought are all the same, cause the Juubi will always return to its full power, despite missing parts of the Bijuu.
 

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Not it wouldn't. You're so f*cking stupid.
The retard I see in here is you.
Still wrong.
Yes, you said that. The juubi is the combination of the bijuu's chakra. Naruto has chakra from most bijuu. And accorindg to your post in this very reply, the first one, then naruto would be close to obito(jin). Not that the retard would understand his own statements.
All chakra from bijus has to undergo through a change to become nature energy. Juubi is made of it bojus not and retard like you dont know that.
Except that naruto 100% kyuubi> Naruto 50% kyuubi, for exemple. You're adding more power to the bijuu. Bijuu's chakra is power, as we've seen. This is so obvious. You're adding more power to the juubi.
We arent talking of full kurama here. My comparison was of normal BM naruto one simply has more chakra then the other, but the chakra power is the same. So dont twist my words so you can push your shit.

Im dont think you even aware what chakra power stands for U_U
The Juubi Madara absorbed, the one Obito absorbed, and the one Rikudo fought are all the same, cause the Juubi will always return to its full power, despite missing parts of the Bijuu.
You self pwned yourself. Even if juubi would be made of pieces of all bijuus it would simply take longer to gather energy from around to get to its old form. Which would result in same juubi that obito madara and hagoromo sealed.

We were discussing chakra power here by the way.
 
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Still wrong.All chakra from bijus has to undergo through a change to become nature energy. Juubi is made of it bojus not and retard like you dont know that.
We arent talking of full kurama here. My comparison was of normal BM naruto one simply has more chakra then the other, but the chakra power is the same. So dont twist my words so you can push your shit.

Im dont think you even aware what chakra power stands for U_U
1- No, it's right. Only idiots defend what you defend.

2- Irrelevant. Naruto has the bijuu chakra, so he has almost the same power as the juubi jin. Because according to your logic, quantity is irrelevant, so he has almsot the same power.

3- But we're talking about full juubi. And the juubi situation fits the 50% and 100% kurama way better. 100% kurama is 50%kurama with the rest of it's chakra(the other 50%), but according to your logic, 50% kurama=100% kurama in power, 100% kurama only has more chakra.

I don't think you're aware of the meaning of many words, like, anything beyond first grade.
 

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1- No, it's right. Only idiots defend what you defend.
Who made you Einstein *****?
2- Irrelevant. Naruto has the bijuu chakra, so he has almost the same power as the juubi jin. Because according to your logic, quantity is irrelevant, so he has almsot the same power.
already explained all the differences, you still retarded.
3- But we're talking about full juubi. And the juubi situation fits the 50% and 100% kurama way better. 100% kurama is 50%kurama with the rest of it's chakra(the other 50%), but according to your logic, 50% kurama=100% kurama in power, 100% kurama only has more chakra.
No it doesnt. Full kurama is yin/yang half is just yang. If you want to compare full kurama but with less chakra then it would fit better, chakra power is still the same.
 

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You self pwned yourself. Even if juubi would be made of pieces of all bijuus it would simply take longer to gather energy from around to get to its old form. Which would result in same juubi that obito madara and hagoromo sealed.

We were discussing chakra power here by the way.
How did I pwn myself? I just explained to Wolfus that Madara isn't stronger because his Juubi has more chakra as all Juubi's become equal, but if the chakra being just as powerful as the full bijuu was the reason why all Juubi's are equal (Like you stated) then the Juubi would only be gaining more chakra as it transforms, but it become visibly stronger.

Though I agree that potency of chakra doesn't decrease with quantity, but its not the reason all Juubi's are equal, and potency of chakra doesn't mean the overall power offered by the chakra is the same despite quantity, at least when we refer to the Bijuu, who are just chakra monsters.

I know, most of that was directed to the OP, I didn't really reply to the argument you and Wolfus are having now.
 

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Who made you Einstein *****?
already explained all the differences, you still retarded.
No it doesnt. Full kurama is yin/yang half is just yang. If you want to compare full kurama but with less chakra then it would fit better, chakra power is still the same.
1- No one. I wish I was closer to the fingernails of einstein's foot.

2- The diffeneces you explained are irrelevant following your own logic,

3- Yes, it does. Yin yang wouldn't matter, following your logic. It's all part of the bijuu's chakra, and the smallest part= 100% of the bijuu in power. A pseudo jinchuriki has the same power as a jinchuriki, following your logic.
As for the juubi, it's incomplete without all the bijuu. Getting the rest of the bijuus would result in a more powerful juubi. Simple as that.

Oh, and thanks to kidgamer, I can complete it, using the juubi's evolution, which is based on absorbing natural energy to complete itself.
1st form juubi< 2nd form, because it has more power. So, having more bijuu would result in more, which is quite obvious, except for idiots.
 
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How did I pwn myself? I just explained to Wolfus that Madara isn't stronger because his Juubi has more chakra as all Juubi's become equal, but if the chakra being just as powerful as the full bijuu was the reason why all Juubi's are equal (Like you stated) then the Juubi would only be gaining more chakra as it transforms, but it become visibly stronger.

Though I agree that potency of chakra doesn't decrease with quantity, but its not the reason all Juubi's are equal, and potency of chakra doesn't mean the overall power offered by the chakra is the same despite quantity, at least when we refer to the Bijuu, who are just chakra monsters.

I know, most of that was directed to the OP, I didn't really reply to the argument you and Wolfus are having now.
You're better with scans. Plz explain Wolfus that juubi's chakra power is always 100% nature energy. You'll need to teach him the concepts of chakra power as well. Im no good with retards. Thanks in advance :cool:
 

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You're better with scans. Plz explain Wolfus that juubi's chakra power is always 100% nature energy. You'll need to teach him the concepts of chakra power as well. Im no good with retards. Thanks in advance :cool:
So you're not good with yourself, one of the most stupid from the base.

I'm not questioning, nor deying that the juubi's chakra would remain pure. But a more complete juubi resuls in more power, it's obvious. If you get one juubi, and puts 7 bijuu on it(or in the gedo mazou, sounds better, then turns it int the juubi) and do the same thing, but using all 9, the resulting juubi from the the 2nd action would be more powerful. It has much more power combined, it ahs 2 more bijuu.

You're denying basic logic. Only idiots, like you, do this.

So, yeah, you're the moron here.
 
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You're better with scans. Plz explain Wolfus that juubi's chakra power is always 100% nature energy. You'll need to teach him the concepts of chakra power as well. Im no good with retards. Thanks in advance :cool:
lol, sorry there bud, he's correct.

So you're not good with yourself, one of the most stupid from the base.

I'm not questioning, nor deying that the juubi's chakra would remain pure. But a more complete juubi resuls in more power, it's obvious. If you get one juubi, and puts 7 bijuu on it(or in the gedo mazou, sounds better, then turns it int the juubi) and do the same thing, but using all 9, the resulting juubi from the the 2nd action would be more powerful. It has much more power combined, it ahs 2 more bijuu.

You're denying basic logic. Only idiots, like you, do this.

So, yeah, you're the moron here.
I agree with everything he said in the bold.
 

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lol, sorry there bud, he's correct.
I agree with everything he said in the bold.
Rofl, its not what was he saying at the start of it.

Also according to you juubi grows anyway to its full form so obito or madara as jins would be same.

So 7 or 9 bijus really dont make a diff and chakra power always remains the same.
 

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Rofl, its not what was he saying at the start of it.

Also according to you juubi grows anyway to its full form so obito or madara as jins would be same.

So 7 or 9 bijus really dont make a diff and chakra power always remains the same.
My ass it wasn't. i said the f*cking thing in the OP. Wow, you're an hypocrite idiot, aren't you.

Still, the final form of the juubi used by obito wasn't at full power, it seemed. Once I believed that it would be the same as full power. However, when madara said that due to the lack of hachibi's and kurama's chakra, it would take more time for the fower to open, I changed my mind.

I mena, if the juubi had absorbed all the natural energy so that it would reach the same form(and thus, same power) as when it had all of them, the flower would open just as fast as before.

So, completeing the juubi would add more power. Even if we compare their final forms, madara's might be more powerful, because it seems that the juubi doesn't make up for all the lack of chakra.
 

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My ass it wasn't. i said the f*cking thing in the OP. Wow, you're an hypocrite idiot, aren't you.
Still, the final form of the juubi used by obito wasn't at full power, it seemed. Once I believed that it would be the same as full power. However, when madara said that due to the lack of hachibi's and kurama's chakra, it would take more time for the fower to open, I changed my mind.
I mena, if the juubi had absorbed all the natural energy so that it would reach the same form(and thus, same power) as when it had all of them, the flower would open just as fast as before.
Look idiot you went as far as saying 100% nature energy means all chakra in the world. lol who else can you be but a retard?

I always said that madara has more chakra as jin due to 8.5 being more then 7 but chakra power is always the same and it took you 2 threads to get there dumbass.
 

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Look idiot you went as far as saying 100% nature energy means all chakra in the world. lol who else can you be but a retard?

I always said that madara has more chakra as jin due to 8.5 being more then 7 but chakra power is always the same and it took you 2 threads to get there dumbass.
One doesn'y have to be a genious to notice you're an idiot. Had you said 100% purity/pure(that's how we say it on chemestry) natural energy, then you could have a point. 100% natural energy, with nothing to indicate anything related to purity is related to quality.
You don't even know how to write your stuff.

I'm not talking about their amount of chakra, you idiot. I'm talking about POWER IN GENERAL. It will take you a month to understand. Or an entire life, considering your level of stupidity.
 

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One doesn'y have to be a genious to notice you're an idiot. Had you said 100% purity/pure(that's how we say it on chemestry) natural energy, then you could have a point. 100% natural energy, with nothing to indicate anything related to purity is related to quality.
You don't even know how to write your stuff.

I'm not talking about their amount of chakra, you idiot. I'm talking about POWER IN GENERAL. It will take you a month to understand. Or an entire life, considering your level of stupidity.
idk if this is relevant but to make a full powered Juubi one needs . 9 bijuu chakras+ natural energy+Gedo mazo(huge lifeforce) = Full powered juubi.?
 

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^My view on the first few pages :/

Anyways, Obito and Madara both seemed to go for the Hachibi and Kyuubi before creating the finished product (although they couldn't do it in time), which seems a bit ridiculous if there's no margin of change in the end...
 
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