Justifying Kishi's Mistakes

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Why do deluded Kishi (Naruto, Madara?) fans try to justify Kishi's mistakes, why is it whenever there is a plot hole people try to dismiss it or look for a way to make it seem like it wasn't a plot hole, and when you complain, you are told to stop reading the manga if you don't like it.

In the last chapter Madara used Susanoo without eyes

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Now I know there's been lots of threads to complain about this obvious PLOT HOLE, and quite honestly I do NOT care about this, logic is not the reason why I read/watch Naruto, if they can fly and shoot bombs from their mouths and shzt, then I don't think we should be expecting any ''logic'' in the manga. However there are some things that are obvious plot holes, and people just need to accept it as what they are, PLOT HOLES!. Like Madara using Susanoo without eyes, but some people want to justify it by saying maybe you don't need eyes to use Susanoo once you activate it or it's the same thing as using justus without handseals.. WTF?, nowhere in the manga before now has it ever been implied that Susanoo can be used without the eyes, and I'm sure if someone had said that before now, or used something like that in a vs thread, people will call him a troll and what not, but once Kishi makes Madara use Susanoo without eyes, everybody wanna break down the shxt, talking bout how it's in the uchiha dna and shxt. Are you fxcking kidding me??. If you can use susanoo without eyes, then surely you can use amaterasu, and genjustu etc without eyes too, seeing as you might only need the eyes to 'activate' the justus for the first time, and that makes ZERO sense.

If you can still use all your justus without eyes as an Uchiha, then why was going blind such a big deal amongst the Uchihas???, why would Madara want to take Sasuske's sharigan until he got his rinnegan back??, seeing as he was dong just fine without them??..

Madara using susanoo without eyes was nothing more than a plot hole and people need to admit it not try to look for some farfetched explanation for it..
 

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Yeah kakashi has been using his MS for quite some time now shouldn't it be worn out:| well he can take obito eyes.
 

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Madara knows all and does all, he needs not satisfy the needs of you peasants.
 

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wait for other chapters to come before you define sth as a plothole.it might be explained in the next chapter,who knows.i dont think kishi would make such a mistake.there has to be some explanation for this
 

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This is ridiculous now....u need ur eyes to unlock it not maintain susanoo. But anyways aint s*** u can do to fix it so just leave it alone.
 

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I would wait on that Madara one if I was you, bit early to call it a plot hole.

But I agree with you. I had one idiot tell me that Kakashi hasn't lost the light in his MS because Sakura has healed him before.

Fcking idiot.

I almost forgot about Kakashi and Obito not going blind from excessively using MS :|
 

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kakashi and obito apparently dont lose the eye cause their sharingan isnt connected

madara is still an uchiha apart from dna his eyes weren't sealed like an ms would be if used too much he used susanoo with rinnegan activated

also maybe its an EMS ability
 

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This is ridiculous now....u need ur eyes to unlock it not maintain susanoo. But anyways aint s*** u can do to fix it so just leave it alone.

yes this explains why we always get a close up of the Uchihas eyes whenever they want to use an MS/EMS technique :yeah:
 

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Well its like Once you awaken the susano you can use it any time without eyes,
Kishi need to clear this U_u
 

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If Kishi doesn't explain it in the next few chapters then it becomes a mistake.

Kishi isn't stupid so I'm hoping he'll clear this mess up.
 

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I honestly think its stupid that people think Kishi made madara do susano not knowing what he was doing
He made madara do susano for a reason he knows what he's doing and I already made a theory explaining it
 

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This should explain why he was able to access his Mangekyou Sharingan third ability Sasunoo...?

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He is somehow link to Sasuke's Sharingan.

I honestly think its stupid that people think Kishi made madara do susano not knowing what he was doing
He made madara do susano for a reason he knows what he's doing and I already made a theory explaining it

Link?

itachi uses susanoo without sharingan.

I reviewed the chapter and know what you mean. Sasuke also had similar use, but I think you are getting confuse. Whilst they Mangekyou Sharingan has been activated and using Sasunoo, their eyes were deteriorating or going blind from overuse.
 
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The fight where he is completely blind but still solo's sasuke's Kirin.

Completely blind? But that doesn't mean he loses his abilities, that just means the light left his eyes.
 
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That's just it isn't it? Everything is speculation unless Kishi clears it up. Now Madara using susanoo so blatenly will be a HUGE plot hole if Kishi doesn't elaborate on how he did it. But speculating that an Uchiha can use Susanoo without their eyes is just that, speculation. No Uchiha Itachi or Sasuke have used Susanoo without having at least MS active.

This ability to use Susanoo without eyes is unique to Madara only. Much like his chakra absorbing tech without the use of the Rinnegan. I assume their are reasons behind this that, hopfully, Kishi will shed some light on.

But it is abit early to deem it a plot hole or a tech that any Uchiha can use until we finish up this arc.
 

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This should explain why he was able to access his Mangekyou Sharingan third ability Sasunoo...?

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He is somehow link to Sasuke's Sharingan.



Link?
 

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Invalid assertion. Susano'o doesn't require direct eye contact, or the need to use the eyes to actually activate it. You only need the Mangekyou to awaken it. Susano'o is purely linked to the users chakra, as noted by Karin, when Sasuke first awakened Susano'o, his chakra was darker, not his eyes. Itachi himself was borderline blind, had no Mangekyou activated, and still maintained Susano'o against Sasuke. This was hundreds of chapters ago. It most likely also treads on the users proficiency with the technique. Madara has had Susano'o for would be nearly 100 hundred years. You think he wouldn't figure out something like that? That it's linked to the chakra, rather than the eyes? Susano'o is a manifestation of the users chakra...
 
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