Jman is top 10!

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the point of the toads are giving Jman time for SM, that's it. the reach seems greater in the tower.
Exactly, and that requires quite a bit of prep time if you dont remember. Not too mention he has to sit still. Amaterasu would literally take the frogs out in 10 seconds if Itachi wanted to, making no time for Jiraiya to remain idle. Seriously dude im getting sick of this. Neither of us are being swayed, and none of your points are really worth countering at this point. I havent even been a **** yet and gotten into how Jiraiya will have a hard time escaping Itachi's various genjutsu, much less tsukuyomi considering Itachi utilizes it well during his fights. Its not just a "dont look at his eyes" type deal
 

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J-Man with alot of prep time is top 10. Shima and Fukasaku's genjutsu is ridiculously OP. Otherwise Jiraiya is top 20 IMO. He is very tough, but he could not take Itachi and Kisame on at the same time. I think he is stronger than them seperate, but seriously doubt them being beat by Jiraiya together.
 

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Exactly, and that requires quite a bit of prep time if you dont remember. Not too mention he has to sit still. Amaterasu would literally take the frogs out in 10 seconds if Itachi wanted to, making no time for Jiraiya to remain idle. Seriously dude im getting sick of this. Neither of us are being swayed, and none of your points are really worth countering at this point. I havent even been a **** yet and gotten into how Jiraiya will have a hard time escaping Itachi's various genjutsu, much less tsukuyomi considering Itachi utilizes it well during his fights. Its not just a "dont look at his eyes" type deal

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its reach isnt great, look how close it was to Orochimaru

The thing it, you are using Amaterasu for ALL your counters. Whether it's clone, toads, and toad stomach knwoing Itachi would fail in constantly using that.
 
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its reach its great, look how close it was to Orochimaru

The thing it, you are using Amaterasu for ALL your counters. Whether it's clone, toads, and toad stomach knwoing Itachi would fail in constantly using that.
No, clones can be dispatched by shuriken, katon, taijutsu etc. You just keep throwing scenarios at me that would probably never come to fruition in the first place considering in all actuality, MS Itachi Vs Base mode Jiraiya wouldnt last very long at all. With that, i am done. This is beyond pointless, and very boring at this point
 

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No, clones can be dispatched by shuriken, katon, taijutsu etc. You just keep throwing scenarios at me that would probably never come to fruition in the first place considering in all actuality, MS Itachi Vs Base mode Jiraiya wouldnt last very long at all. With that, i am done. This is beyond pointless, and very boring at this point

you decided to keep replying, i didnt ask you to. all your arguemtns remain so my scenario remains the same
 

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J-Man with alot of prep time is top 10. Shima and Fukasaku's genjutsu is ridiculously OP. Otherwise Jiraiya is top 20 IMO. He is very tough, but he could not take Itachi and Kisame on at the same time. I think he is stronger than them seperate, but seriously doubt them being beat by Jiraiya together.

i respect this post!
 

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Top...ten???...Trolol?


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Sure yeah, itachi also said that if kisame faced kakashi he would have died, but kisame >> part 1 kakashi
 

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sage mode is not to be trifled with, dont know what manga people read on here
 

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That was in Part 1 and Itachi said that because he didn't want to kill Jiraiya so let Kisame think that they wouldn't stand a chance against him.
All these people are stronger than him. (In no particular order)
Madara
Hashirama
Nagato
Kabuto
Orochimaru
Sasuke
Naruto
Muu
Itachi
3rd Raikage
Minato
Gaara
A
Killer B
Obito
2nd Mizukage
Onoki
Deidera

Sage Mode Jiraiya defeats Itachi, Second Mizukage, Sasuke, A and destroys Gaara.
 

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Motherf*cker

I swear every single new motherf*cker always talks about this.

I saw the exact same thread not too long ago.
 

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Motherf*cker

I swear every single new motherf*cker always talks about this.

I saw the exact same thread not too long ago.

new? I've been here before you
 

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Sage Mode Jiraiya defeats Itachi, Second Mizukage, Sasuke, A and destroys Gaara.

Hahaha Jiraiya has nothing to counter Itachi's Genjutsu not to mention that Itachi will never allow Jiraiya to get into SM mode.
 

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Itachi and Kisame both admitted that Jman alone would be a tough match for them to fight together. This is manga fact!

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Itachi was able to agree(say) this after knowing what Jman was capable of.

Even Jman himself was confident that he alone could defeat both man

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Jman knew Itachi was badass and still was confident in ending his life.

and had already undone sharingan genjutsu

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and at the end of it all Itachi and Kisame would alone running like little children afraid of a beaten

this points Jman at top 10 and this is still MANGA FACT!!

You missed the point.

IF they were even talking about Jiraiya and not the Kyuubi it was Itachi who wanted Kisame to believe that they had no chance against him

Not to mention that you forgot the Mangapage where Kisame was wondering why they had to retreat because he said ''You could've'' stating that Kisame knew that Itachi could have owned Jiraiya.

Explain to me how Jiraiya is going to counter Itachi's Genjutsu because Jiraiya totally SUCKS with Genjutsu and how is he going to counter Amaturasu because he's clearly too slow for it.

And how is he going to counter Sasuno'o.

Itachi solo's Jiraiya anyday.
 

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You missed the point.

IF they were even talking about Jiraiya and not the Kyuubi it was Itachi who wanted Kisame to believe that they had no chance against him

Not to mention that you forgot the Mangapage where Kisame was wondering why they had to retreat because he said ''You could've'' stating that Kisame knew that Itachi could have owned Jiraiya.

Explain to me how Jiraiya is going to counter Itachi's Genjutsu because Jiraiya totally SUCKS with Genjutsu and how is he going to counter Amaturasu because he's clearly too slow for it.

And how is he going to counter Sasuno'o.

Itachi solo's Jiraiya anyday.

did you rad throughout the thread? I wont repeat myself
 
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