Jman is top 10!

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Itachi and Kisame both admitted that Jman alone would be a tough match for them to fight together. This is manga fact!

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Itachi was able to agree(say) this after knowing what Jman was capable of.

Even Jman himself was confident that he alone could defeat both man

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Jman knew Itachi was badass and still was confident in ending his life.

and had already undone sharingan genjutsu

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and at the end of it all Itachi and Kisame would alone running like little children afraid of a beaten

this points Jman at top 10 and this is still MANGA FACT!!
 
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Part one statement.


Naruto has clearly been retconed since then...
 

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You havent been on the base much in 2012 have you? This topic was debunked and thrown in the garbage long ago for the answer has always been the same. Itachi>Jiraiya.
 

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neither jiriaya, nor kisame, nor itachi, are top ten. there are at least twelve stronger shinobi.
 

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You havent been on the base much in 2012 have you? This topic was debunked and thrown in the garbage long ago for the answer has always been the same. Itachi>Jiraiya.

how can you debunk manga fact? its fanbase favoritism probably
 

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neither jiriaya, nor kisame, nor itachi, are top ten. there are at least twelve stronger shinobi.

beating both Itachi and Kisame at the same time puts you in top 10
 

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The former is a mistranslation. The latter is Jiraiya's arrogance.
 

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I think Itachi and J-man are about the same strength. Yea sure, Itachi has all those fancy Susano'o weapons and all but he really can't use it for a long time(actually very short time due to illness and low charka levels). My guess is if J-man doesn't get caught in Tsukuyomi then he might be able to go to Sage Mode and win.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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The former is a mistranslation. The latter is Jiraiya's arrogance.

can to show me a different translation? Jman was never shown being an arrogant fellow much ever before
 

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how can you debunk manga fact? its fanbase favoritism probably

Fanboy of Itachi? Never. Itachi didnt want to fight Jiraiya for it was pointless and wanted to convince Kisame that he should stand down. It worked btw.
 

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Jiraya isn't even as strong as oro. Jiraya only has the rasengan and a weak version of sage mode. The real top 10 is Hashi, Madara, Itachi, naruto, Nagato, tobirama, sasuke, hiruzen, orochimaru, and either muu or the 3rd raikage
 

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I think Itachi and J-man are about the same strength. Yea sure, Itachi has all those fancy Susano'o weapons and all but he really can't use it for a long time(actually very short time due to illness and low charka levels). My guess is if J-man doesn't get caught in Tsukuyomi then he might be able to go to Sage Mode and win.

Just my 2 cents.

I can't see itachi having multple subjects under genjutsu, ma and pa and other toads
 

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Fanboy of Itachi? Never. Itachi didnt want to fight Jiraiya for it was pointless and wanted to convince Kisame that he should stand down. It worked btw.

Yeah Itachi was a double agent and didnt want to have to kill jiraya or naruto. Part 1 isn't even relevant in comparison to the powers in shippuden
 

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Fanboy of Itachi? Never. Itachi didnt want to fight Jiraiya for it was pointless and wanted to convince Kisame that he should stand down. It worked btw.

that was inside the village, this was outside the village.
 

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Not this crap again.This has been countered in the past.
 

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I can't see itachi having multple subjects under genjutsu, ma and pa and other toads

Well, Jiraiya has to summon those two first and that takes time. But yea, my vote kinda goes to Jiraya, dunno why :p.
 
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