JJ Madara vs Current Sasuke

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Hagoromo's Chakra is formed from 2 components; Eyes and body. The Chakra of Hagoromo in Sasuke's possession, is within his Rinnegan. Sasuke doesn't have Senjutsu Chakra. It's the body is what possess the Senjutsu. Juubi's Jinchuuriki body isn't immune to Ninjutsu, otherwise:

-The smoke appeared from Obito's right side body, is clear burns.
-The Goududama wouldn't have destroyed half of Obito's body.

The Juubi itself was taking Ninjutsu attacks, and was damaged by them. It grants the Jinchuuriki the same properties its body would have. It's the Onmyoudon Yin-Yang technique applied to the Goududama is what nullifies Ninjutsu. Not their bodies. Since Sasuke lacks Senjutsu Chakra, he can't penetrate them. Fallacy can disappear.​
 

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Madara wins this.......

Haha Madara can't use Susanoo with 1 eye really ? He used it even without eye's

And with Rikudou's Chakra he should have a much stronger Susanoo as Sasuke who have only Indora' chakra.

His teleportion is pretty shit.
He can't damage Madara without Senjutsu.
Hr can't so anything against Limbo he can just see them nothing more. You need Rikudō Chakra to damage them, but Sasuke don't have it
He can't damage Marara through Gudōdama and his Susanoo would turn in nothing.

Madara is in any case better and stronger ..



Mafara is in any case better
 

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Madara who stated that he has both powers of the sage's senjustu and the rinnegan.

Half of Madara's capabilities are not going to beat Madara as a whole.

Let's get real guys...,

Madara would beat Sasuke mid difficulty

He'll use gudodama's, TTB, or mokuton Jukai Kouton to kill Sasuke
 

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Madara wins this.......

Haha Madara can't use Susanoo with 1 eye really ? He used it even without eye's

And with Rikudou's Chakra he should have a much stronger Susanoo as Sasuke who have only Indora' chakra.
Where was this phantom PS? All I saw was a V3 susanoo. Also sasuke has rikudou's chakra, 50% of it.

His teleportion is pretty shit.
The same teleportation that made madara run away to get his second eye?
He can't damage Madara without Senjutsu.
Hr can't so anything against Limbo he can just see them nothing more. You need Rikudō Chakra to damage them, but Sasuke don't have it
He can't damage Marara through Gudōdama and his Susanoo would turn in nothing.
Maybe you're ? You saying sasuke can damage juubito's gudodama with a senjutsu enhanced V3 legged susanoo but he cannot damage a madara's gudodama with his PS? One that cut through a meteor?

Madara is in any case better and stronger ..
He cannot use PS or chibaku tensei without two rinnegans. He also has one limbo clone only. Sasuke is clearly stronger here.
 

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Shin Madara [Juubi Jinchuriki (Shinju) - Double Rinnegan (+ True Samsara Eye)] > Madara [Juubi Jinchuriki (Shinju) - Single Rinnegan] > Rikudo Sasuke > Madara [Juubi Jinchuriki (Incomplete) - Single Rinnegan]​
 

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Sasuke made Madara run in 674. Then this happened.
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Dude this was nothing, Madara healed it away like nothing U_U
And also it was a completely other scenario.


Where was this phantom PS? All I saw was a V3 susanoo. Also sasuke has rikudou's chakra, 50% of it.
Ok, please be objectively.
Susanoo is formed through the materialisation of the user's chakra.
If you have a strong Chakra then you have automatically a stronger Susanoo.

Sasuke = 50% of Hagoromo -> Indora = stabilised Perfect Susanoo (he gained this Susanoo just after this Power-Up hmm Madara had it already with Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan)


Madara showed his stabilised Perfect Susanoo only with Indora's chakra, and even yet his Susanoo is equal to Sasuke's

Madara could also use it with 100 % Hagoromo, but he did not, cuz he had since that Gudōdama U_U

It is just llogically


The same teleportation that made madara run away to get his second eye?
He tried to get his second Rinnengan cuz of more factors as Sasuke.
Dude there was also Naruto not only Sasuke U_U
Madara knew that Obito would try to destroy his Rinnegan.
He didn't have any knowledge about their new Power, by the way he analyzed their power.
He was never in danger, why would he try to avoid their attacks? If he can regenerate immediately his body U_U



Maybe you're ? You saying sasuke can damage juubito's gudodama with a senjutsu enhanced V3 legged susanoo but he cannot damage a madara's gudodama with his PS? One that cut through a meteor?

I don't understand what you try to say ?
Did Sasuke attacked Madara with Ninjutsu ? And i meaned Sasuke can't damage Gudōdama.

This was Sasuke's Susanoo + Juugo's Sen-Chakra....and ?
His PS don't have Sen-Chakra!!


He cannot use PS or chibaku tensei without two rinnegans. He also has one limbo clone only. Sasuke is clearly stronger here.
What the hell are you talking about ? He was able to use Susanoo without eye's U_U
I don't understand your point....are you trying to say you need two Rinnengan's for PS or what ?
It does not matter he could use Susanoo without eye = He can use it also with 1 Rinnengan.

Sasuke is hopeless against Limbo.

Limbo could react to Naruot in Rikudo Senjutsu, Sasuke is much more slowlier. And he can't do anything against Limbo.
-He can't damage him
-He can't seal him away
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How the hell can ppl say, that Sasuke who has just the half power of Hagoromo would win against Madara who has both power's ?

This is absurd !
 
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Dude this was nothing, Madara healed it away like nothing U_U
And also it was a completely other scenario.




Ok, please be objectively.
Susanoo is formed through the materialisation of the user's chakra.
If you have a strong Chakra then you have automatically a stronger Susanoo.

Sasuke = 50% of Hagoromo -> Indora = stabilised Perfect Susanoo (he gained this Susanoo just after this Power-Up hmm Madara had it already with Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan)
Ok stop. Sasuke also had PS when he had ems but obviously not as strong as madara.


Madara showed his stabilised Perfect Susanoo only with Indora's chakra, and even yet his Susanoo is equal to Sasuke's

Madara could also use it with 100 % Hagoromo, but he did not, cuz he had since that Gudōdama U_U

It is just llogically
No Lol it is not equal to sasuke's. Sasuke's PS cut through meteors which were much larger than mountains. I can say it's stronger madara couldn't take on hashirama's shinsuusenju even with the kyuubi's help. If sasuke PS can destroy more than one meteor how could he not destroy the shinsuusenju?

Logically, sasuke has indra's chakra + sage's chakra. Madara had indra's chakra + ashura's chakra. So just with this we can say sasuke's current PS is stronger than madara's ems PS. Sasuke's PS is stronger than madara's PS + kyuubi actaully...


He tried to get his second Rinnengan cuz of more factors as Sasuke.
Dude there was also Naruto not only Sasuke U_U
Madara knew that Obito would try to destroy his Rinnegan.
He didn't have any knowledge about their new Power, by the way he analyzed their power.
He was never in danger, why would he try to avoid their attacks? If he can regenerate immediately his body U_U
No not immediate otherwise he would be whole . See he is still missing half a body = not immediate regeneration. The way sasuke analysed his power is the reason that madara said he wanted to get his other eye. Yes naruto was there but he was fine attacking naruto and but he knew he couldn't do that to sasuke because he can see the limbo.




I don't understand what you try to say ?
Did Sasuke attacked Madara with Ninjutsu ? And i meaned Sasuke can't damage Gudōdama.

This was Sasuke's Susanoo + Juugo's Sen-Chakra....and ?
His PS don't have Sen-Chakra!!
Yes. I'm saying he does have senjutsu or something like it . Otherwise the chidori wouldn't have done anything to madara because onmyoudon negates ninjutsu. Didn't you tell me this before?


What the hell are you talking about ? He was able to use Susanoo without eye's U_U
I don't understand your point....are you trying to say you need two Rinnengan's for PS or what ?
It does not matter he could use Susanoo without eye = He can use it also with 1 Rinnengan.
He can use susanoo but not perfect susanoo without both eyes. No not rinnegan, he just needs because eyes show their true power when together. The true power of two ems is PS. The true power of two rinnegan is chibaku tensei + infinite tsukuyomi. Madara has neither.

Sasuke is hopeless against Limbo.

Limbo could react to Naruot in Rikudo Senjutsu, Sasuke is much more slowlier. And he can't do anything against Limbo.
-He can't damage him
-He can't seal him away
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Madara can't do anything against sasuke's eye technique. He can . Look at the lightning around madara. He can't seal him yes but if he can cut madara in half, he could do the same to limbo because he has rikudou's power.


How the hell can ppl say, that Sasuke who has just the half power of Hagoromo would win against Madara who has both power's ?

This is absurd !
Madara doesn't have full powers of both. He only has one rinnegan. Madara doesn't have rikudou's chakra he has indra's and ashura's chakra. Also juubi chakra. Sasuke has indra's and rikudou's chakra.
 

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Madara who stated that he has both powers of the sage's senjustu and the rinnegan.

Half of Madara's capabilities are not going to beat Madara as a whole.

Let's get real guys...,

Madara would beat Sasuke mid difficulty

He'll use gudodama's, TTB, or mokuton Jukai Kouton to kill Sasuke
People seem to forget that.

Madara was coming off getting sliced i n half by Naruto, and getting half his body kicked off. And losing his gudo dama. And he was fighting in a 1v2. You're supposed to lose a fight if you're outnumbered and the other two are close to your power.

Funny how people say sasuke had madara running, but madara was only *flying away to get his other rinnegan, because he needed both rinnegan to CAST infinite Tsukuyomi.
 

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Sasuke has 1 rinnegan 50% hagoromos soul chakra and Indra's
Madara has 1 rinnegan juubi's chakra (which contains hagoromos chakra) , Indra's and asura's chakra= hagoromos chakra (stated by hagoromo himself)

And people say sasuke wins mid diff? Alone? without Naruto? By feats, yes, by logic and portrayal, fuk no.
 

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Sasuke beats him.

- Sasuke can see his limbo clones

- Gudo Dama isn't protecting Madara from a PS slash

- If Madara summons the Shinju to use Juubidama it'll just get cut down by Sasuke's PS
 
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Lel what? Sasuke can use his fancy S/T all he wants, Madara can't die. What is Sasuke going to do? Slash him with a PS sword? Sage Lightning? Mads catches him on his eye c/d time.

Madara obviously wins.
 
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Lel what? Sasuke can use his fancy S/T all he wants, Madara can't die. What is Sasuke going to do? Slash him with a PS sword? Sage Lightning? Mads catches him on his eye c/d time.

Madara obviously wins.
Sasuke has Senjutsu chakra. He can hurt Madara just like Guy did or even worse. Sasuke with full chakra can use his S/T back to back. Madara would be dead by the time Sasuke needs a cool down.
 

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Sasuke has Senjutsu chakra. He can hurt Madara just like Guy did or even worse. Sasuke with full chakra can use his S/T back to back. Madara would be dead by the time Sasuke needs a cool down.
madara made it pretty clear that naruto got the senjutsu,not sasuke.
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goudama nullifies everything sasuke has.juubi nukes sasuke
 
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