Jiriaya = Strongest ninja ever?

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Believe me when I say that Tsunade is one of my favorite characters. However, someone known as "The Legendary Sucker" can't really put 'level-headed' as one of her best traits, wouldn't you agree?

Jiraiya turned down the part mainly due to the fact that he needed to keep an eye on Orochimaru, which he felt was more important. Had he not done that, he may not have known as much about the Akatsuki as he did, nor would he be able to fulfill his destiny as ordained by the elder toad (who has never been wrong) that he was to train the one who would destroy or unite the ninja world. I'm pretty sure Jiraiya remember all of this, and being smart isn't just being able to think on the fly. You must know yourself, as well. That's the most important part of being smart, and I would say Jiraiya was quite in touch with himself.

Going back to Tsunade, don't forget that we're talking about someone whose key talents (that we've seen) are a) medical prowess, and b) incredible strength. To compare, have you noticed just how big a pain in the ass Kabuto is to deal with? That's thanks to training as a medic nin. Now, what if we were to see the full extent of the most famous medic of them all?

These are just things to consider in favor of Godaime. Jiraiya's reputation is more than deserved, so I'm not trying to belittle him. If anything, I'm wanting to compare Tsunade to The Great Jiraiya.
Lol, yea, your right about that.
But I think Tsunade has changed a bit from being known as the legendary sucker.
Especially with the passing of Jiraiya, I think she's a bit more level headed than before.

it wasnt 15 minutes acually and he died from the overuse of the MS and techs like susanoo
No, he didn't, he died from his sickness.
Note that he grabbed his heart and spit up blood before he died
???
If that isn't evidence of a sickness, I don't know what is.

hermit mode and every other summoning jiraiya has is enough to take all 3 MS jutsu's. thats what im saying. he's too fast. not even the rinnegan user could touch jiraiya til jiraiya turned his back after thinking he killed him. only ninja's fast enough to catch jiraiya is 4th and maybe gai and lee going 7-8 gates. then ultimate rasengan hits itachi. it's over

and theres no way it was 15 minutes. maybe TOPS 2 minutes.
Your just....Dumb.
Only Gai doing 8 GATES could catch Jiraiya?????
Haven't we been through this, there is NOTHING in the manga showing that Jiraiya is THAT fast in hermit mode.
Dude, so your basically saying that Jiraiya in hermit mode is faster than ANY character in Naruto??
??????
2 MINUTES??!!
Do you have a sense of time!
From the time Sasuke used Kirin to the time Sasuke was backed up against the wall, your saying that 2 minutes passed.
Ok, again, let's review for all the slow people here.
Sasuke used Kirin, Itachi used Susanoo to block it, than, Itachi gave a speech.
After the speech, Sasuke used his cursed seal to attack Itachi, with no avail.
After that, Sasuke was battling Orochimaru, trying not to let him escape, again, to no avail.
After that, Orochimaru popped out and summoned a bunch of snakes, Itachi was battling them for a while as Zetsu commented about Orochimaru.
After Itachi slayed the snakes, Itachi tells Orochimaru to come out and show himself.
Orochimaru does, and makes a sword fly outta his mouth, shortly after, Itachi impales him with Susanoo's sword [Forgot what it's called]
Orochimaru than starts saying a bunch of shit as he's being sucked into the Genjutsu.
Then, Itachi says ''I'll take your eyes slowly, I want to savor this.'' signifying that Itachi was taking his time during this whole thing.
Itachi SLOWLY walks towards Sasuke as Sasuke is throwing multiple ninja weapons, with no avail.
Then, finally, as Sasuke is out of chakra and hope, he gets pinned up against a wall with the Uchiha clan symbol imprinted on it.
THEN Susanoo get's deactivated ONLY because he succumbed to his sickness.
And your saying that all happened in TWO MINUTES?
Check your watch.
 
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Well some this is more of a fanboy threat apparently. Not enough ppl are backing up their opinions with arguments and facts.

We for one do not know who was the strongest, but we can only guess.

Ppl who pay attention to the manga details, will favour Itachi as one of the strongest ninja's alive. And yes, I sort of hate Uchica aswell during this long manga, but Itachi just was insanely powerfull.

Itachi had everything a ninja would want, except for his illness. Too bad Itachi wasn't a real villain, would have loved to see more of him going full combat
 

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Well some this is more of a fanboy threat apparently. Not enough ppl are backing up their opinions with arguments and facts.

We for one do not know who was the strongest, but we can only guess.
seriously, im not being a prick, but me and qwerty have given multiple repeated evidence that itachi was stronger than Jiraiya.

Yatas mirror blocks ANY ATTACK.

You need an IQ of like 20 to not understand this, its like saying a bullet can go through 100 miles of concrete from a standard 9mm

Its NEVER gonna happen.

Jiraiyas attacks would do NOTHING, NADA, ZILTCH to itachi.

Itachi became the LEADER of ANBU at the age of 13, where he became already then, an S class ninja.

He had madara pinned and unable to focus his plans very well too.

Itachi would whoop jiraiya.
 

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Your just....Dumb.
Only Gai doing 8 GATES could catch Jiraiya?????
Haven't we been through this, there is NOTHING in the manga showing that Jiraiya is THAT fast in hermit mode.
Dude, so your basically saying that Jiraiya in hermit mode is faster than ANY character in Naruto??
??????
2 MINUTES??!!
Do you have a sense of time!
From the time Sasuke used Kirin to the time Sasuke was backed up against the wall, your saying that 2 minutes passed.
Ok, again, let's review for all the slow people here.
Sasuke used Kirin, Itachi used Susanoo to block it, than, Itachi gave a speech.
After the speech, Sasuke used his cursed seal to attack Itachi, with no avail.
After that, Sasuke was battling Orochimaru, trying not to let him escape, again, to no avail.
After that, Orochimaru popped out and summoned a bunch of snakes, Itachi was battling them for a while as Zetsu commented about Orochimaru.
After Itachi slayed the snakes, Itachi tells Orochimaru to come out and show himself.
Orochimaru does, and makes a sword fly outta his mouth, shortly after, Itachi impales him with Susanoo's sword [Forgot what it's called]
Orochimaru than starts saying a bunch of shit as he's being sucked into the Genjutsu.
Then, Itachi says ''I'll take your eyes slowly, I want to savor this.'' signifying that Itachi was taking his time during this whole thing.
Itachi SLOWLY walks towards Sasuke as Sasuke is throwing multiple ninja weapons, with no avail.
Then, finally, as Sasuke is out of chakra and hope, he gets pinned up against a wall with the Uchiha clan symbol imprinted on it.
THEN Susanoo get's deactivated ONLY because he succumbed to his sickness.
And your saying that all happened in TWO MINUTES?
Check your watch.[/QUOTE]

When Itachi turns on his Susano'o, he's invincible for a short amount of time. and when he uses tusukiyomi or amaterasu, it extremely drains his chakra. in the itachi/sasuke fight he used a little genjutsu in the beginning, he used tsukiyomi ONCE, grand fireball jutsu ONCE and amaterasu TWICE, then he was out of chakra and had to resort to susano'o. itachi goes through chakra too fast.

now lets talk jiraiya

itachi told kisame(IN THE FUKING ANIME)QUOTE

Kisame: I'm pretty certain you could go toe to toe with him, though i'm not sure i could, he's on a whole other level.
Itachi: Ya....If we faced each other, both of us would be killed, a rather unappealing outcome. Even if there were more of us, the result would remain the same.
Kisame: Never thought i'd have to go up against one of the legendary sannin, if we fight him, then both the uchiha clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist will have their names dragged through the mud.
Itachi: True, but still....even the strongest of opponents, always has a weakness.

Now after that conversation, itachi and kisame were surprised that jiraiya saw through the illusion girl. and came to help naruto. he used ONE jutsu(toad mouth trap) and itachi had to resort to his exhausting amaterasu just to get out and RUN. and after jiraiya sealed up amaterasu, he probably studied the jutsu and found a way to seal it even quicker if he ever needed to.

then theres hermit mode(which itachi doesn't even know about). hermit mode is not as powerful as "sage mode" like naruto will probably master. but it still has most of the same effects as sage mode. he becomes extremely stronger with taijutsu and his speed is not human. plus in hermit mode you can't run out of chakra plus it heals wounds rapidly overtime. like i said before, the rinnegan user could stop his attacks but he could NEVER touch jiraiya until jiraiya was caught off-guard thinking he KILLED the rinnegan user.

so in hermit mode he DEFINATELY has the chakra to withstand tsukiyomi, he most-likely has the speed and knowledge to deal with amaterasu because of the sealing method. and susano'o is a matter of hide-n-seek. itachi's sharingan isn't like byakugan. he can't see jiraiya if he hides. even though susano'o may not use chakra, it still isexhausting to itachi. so when he's fully exhausted and out of chakra, POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER(ulitmate rasengan).

now you ask, "oh uhh duhh uhh where duz jirara hide?"
he was the master of spying if you've forgotten. his "transparency jutsu" which he can shape shift into and blunt object and spy on the enemy without having ANY chance of being caught or seen.

i don't care if itachi has yatas mirror. jiraiya is too god damn fast and smart to be hit by it.

JIRAIYA WINS!!!!
 
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Your just....Dumb.
Only Gai doing 8 GATES could catch Jiraiya?????
Haven't we been through this, there is NOTHING in the manga showing that Jiraiya is THAT fast in hermit mode.
Dude, so your basically saying that Jiraiya in hermit mode is faster than ANY character in Naruto??
??????
2 MINUTES??!!
Do you have a sense of time!
From the time Sasuke used Kirin to the time Sasuke was backed up against the wall, your saying that 2 minutes passed.
Ok, again, let's review for all the slow people here.
Sasuke used Kirin, Itachi used Susanoo to block it, than, Itachi gave a speech.
After the speech, Sasuke used his cursed seal to attack Itachi, with no avail.
After that, Sasuke was battling Orochimaru, trying not to let him escape, again, to no avail.
After that, Orochimaru popped out and summoned a bunch of snakes, Itachi was battling them for a while as Zetsu commented about Orochimaru.
After Itachi slayed the snakes, Itachi tells Orochimaru to come out and show himself.
Orochimaru does, and makes a sword fly outta his mouth, shortly after, Itachi impales him with Susanoo's sword [Forgot what it's called]
Orochimaru than starts saying a bunch of shit as he's being sucked into the Genjutsu.
Then, Itachi says ''I'll take your eyes slowly, I want to savor this.'' signifying that Itachi was taking his time during this whole thing.
Itachi SLOWLY walks towards Sasuke as Sasuke is throwing multiple ninja weapons, with no avail.
Then, finally, as Sasuke is out of chakra and hope, he gets pinned up against a wall with the Uchiha clan symbol imprinted on it.
THEN Susanoo get's deactivated ONLY because he succumbed to his sickness.
And your saying that all happened in TWO MINUTES?
Check your watch.
When Itachi turns on his Susano'o, he's invincible for a short amount of time. and when he uses tusukiyomi or amaterasu, it extremely drains his chakra. in the itachi/sasuke fight he used a little genjutsu in the beginning, he used tsukiyomi ONCE, grand fireball jutsu ONCE and amaterasu TWICE, then he was out of chakra and had to resort to susano'o. itachi goes through chakra too fast.

now lets talk jiraiya

itachi told kisame(IN THE FUKING ANIME)QUOTE

Kisame: I'm pretty certain you could go toe to toe with him, though i'm not sure i could, he's on a whole other level.
Itachi: Ya....If we faced each other, both of us would be killed, a rather unappealing outcome. Even if there were more of us, the result would remain the same.
Kisame: Never thought i'd have to go up against one of the legendary sannin, if we fight him, then both the uchiha clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist will have their names dragged through the mud.
Itachi: True, but still....even the strongest of opponents, always has a weakness.

Now after that conversation, itachi and kisame were surprised that jiraiya saw through the illusion girl. and came to help naruto. he used ONE jutsu(toad mouth trap) and itachi had to resort to his exhausting amaterasu just to get out and RUN. and after jiraiya sealed up amaterasu, he probably studied the jutsu and found a way to seal it even quicker if he ever needed to.

then theres hermit mode(which itachi doesn't even know about). hermit mode is not as powerful as "sage mode" like naruto will probably master. but it still has most of the same effects as sage mode. he becomes extremely stronger with taijutsu and his speed is not human. plus in hermit mode you can't run out of chakra plus it heals wounds rapidly overtime. like i said before, the rinnegan user could stop his attacks but he could NEVER touch jiraiya until jiraiya was caught off-guard thinking he KILLED the rinnegan user.

so in hermit mode he DEFINATELY has the chakra to withstand tsukiyomi, he most-likely has the speed and knowledge to deal with amaterasu because of the sealing method. and susano'o is a matter of hide-n-seek. itachi's sharingan isn't like byakugan. he can't see jiraiya if he hides. even though susano'o may not use chakra, it still isexhausting to itachi. so when he's fully exhausted and out of chakra, POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER(ulitmate rasengan).

now you ask, "oh uhh duhh uhh where duz jirara hide?"
he was the master of spying if you've forgotten. his "transparency jutsu" which he can shape shift into and blunt object and spy on the enemy without having ANY chance of being caught or seen.

i don't care if itachi has yatas mirror. jiraiya is too god damn fast and smart to be hit by it.

JIRAIYA WINS!!!!
Wow, you couldn't even quote properly that's how much you suck.
Hello, dumbshit!
Itachi had given away half his chakra to Naruto before the fight happened PLUS he was being killed by his illness WHILE HE WAS FIGHTING!
Of course he would be out of chakra after only a few jutsu's, he was fighting his body to stay alive more than he was fighting Sasuke.
Yea, the Toad Mouth Jutsu caught Itachi off guard, but think about it, if Itachi wanted to really fight Jiraya, he could have just used Amaterasu on Jiraiya, then used Amaterasu to get out.
The only reason he ran [Like I've said before] Is because he didn't want to fight with Jiraiya because of 2 reasons, one, because Gai, Kakashi, and probably every Jonin in Konoha were on there ass.
Two, he didn't want to fight Jiraiya because he was someone he obviously looked up to and he was someone who was extremely important to Konoha.
It's the same reason why he didn't want to really kill Kakashi or Gai.
Oh god.
Here we go with ''The speed of Hermit Mode'' again.
HE DOES NOT MOVE AT SUPER SONIC SPEEDS WHILE IN HERMIT MODE!
There is not ONE shred of evidence [And trust me, I've looked] that shows he goes THAT fast.
You said that only Gai doing 8 GATES could catch Jiraiya in sage mode?
You must be bonkers, for real, do you know just how fast Gai would be at 8 gates?
Not even the Sharingan could follow him, that's how fast.
No, Pein didn't touch him because Pein, as far as I know, doesn't use much Taijutsu, he's basically a Ninjutsu user, so naturally, he never touched him, because he never needed to touch him, he was just hammering him with powerful jutsu's from a distance, a much better strategy then charging at him like a wild man.
What the **** does chakra have to do with withstanding Tsukuyomi?
In order to withstand Tsukuyomi, you need to have a partner, pure and simple.
So if Pa and Ma were there, then yes, he would have little problem, BUT without Pa and Ma, Jiraiya wouldn't stand a chance since Jiraiya stated himself that he sucks against Genjutsu.
No, that sealing method would not work against Amaterasu because the sealing method took a while to do, Amaterasu is just WAY to fast to do a sealing method on it.
And as far as I could tell, the seal only effected a small area of flame, if the huge wall of flame that is Amaterasu is rolling towards you, I doubt you would be able to seal the ENTIRE thing in one seal...thing.
And no, he can't out run it.
From what we've seen, anyone who has had Amaterasu cased on them, could not PHYSICALLY out run it.
They've either used a jutsu to evade it [Sasuke, Madara] or just been hit by it [Hachibi, Karin].
Think about it, do you know how fast Hachibi was?
Even Hachibi couldn't evade it, and he was able to get right up in Sasuke's face and blast him before he even knew what hit em'.
No, Susanoo, is not a matter of ''Hide and Seek''.
Susanoo is very large, large enough that it basically a birds eye view of the people on the ground, unless Jiraiya could bury himself underground like Bugs Bunny and burrow his way back to Albakerky, I doubt he could hide from it.
Plus, Susanoo's sword has [From what I can estimate] atleast the reach of a football field.
Jiraiya would have to SERIOUSLY leg it out if he wanted escape a reach like that, I find that quite impossible for Jiraiya to do.
Ok, Sharingan may not be like Byakugan, but have you forgot that it can still see chakra from far away?
Even if Jiraiya is underground, he can look at the ground and see where his chakra is.
I thought you would atleast be smart enough to know how the basics of the Sharingan work, but I guess not.
Oh, and I doubt Itachi would pull out Susanoo when he's super close to death, he would probably pull it out only if Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu didn't work.
He wouldn't wait until his bodies about to shut down to use it like he did in his fight with Sasuke.
Transparency jutsu?
Have you forgot that the Sharingan can SEE CHAKRA!
It doesn't matter how invisible he is, the Sharingan can see his chakra flow.
No matter how see through you are, you can't hid your flow of chakra.
Case Closed.
''i don't care if itachi has yatas mirror. jiraiya is too god damn fast and smart to be hit by it.''
That right there shows just how dumb you are, YATAS MIRROR DOESN'T ATTACK, IT BLOCKS ATTACKS RETARD!
 
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no insulting in this forum or u will b banned
and jyiya is storng and itachi is strong
jyriya really did not shiow all his powers but died a good death
itachi did not really sho all his powers but he 2 died a good death case closed
 

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Jiraiya is very strong indeed, but he ain`t the best ever....
exactyl some ppl r fans of jyriya and like his jutsu ando ther things
iam a Fan of 5 ppl
Naruto
4th hokga
Konhas white fang
Jugo and the 1st hokage
those r my top 5

there r ppl indeed stronger than jyriya
Hanzo is 1 of them having taken a 3 sannin on in their prime
 

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yeah I got some people to I fan of:
-Kakashi
-Jiraiya
-Itachi
-Yondaime
-Orochimaru
lol guess who diss is :

:kiss:
k its Kabuto and orchimaru
because kabuto kissed orchimarus ass 2 much but he isnot gay because he did touch tsunades tits during a battle and he did wanna betray orchimaru @ some point
 
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damn j-man why did u die for konoha need you man and he where the souce information for konoha. is the only one.the legendary goofy ninja.
 
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