Jiraya vs Danzo

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Sigh you sir are a retard....why are you calling teams weaker than nagato/itachi, when i already stated he could possibly beat them?

and also mark my words, All it takes to break ka is for the person to become aware they are under control, so 2v1, where a partner can clearly say "Wtf dude why are you fighting on his side?" will trigger a reaction......

1V1 battle against ka is broken, since the person is unaware they are being controlled, thus 1v1 a ka user can win any battle,
What if a person gets aware 1v1??
 

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while it's entertaining to see you descend into a hissy fit and spew out insults like a frustrated 9-year old, i'm not really a fan of you putting words in my mouth and twisting my arguments. nowhere did i say that a person can choose wether or not to go with KA. or that jiraiya is immune to the jutsu. tobi didn't seem to be particularly frightened of ka, when danzo put his mind to it he actually teleported in front of him.of course he wanted the jutsu,he's a manipulator and it would make his task much easier. danzo being immune to rasengan is akin to your claims that ka can do anything, not that it can't. ie it's uttely ridiculous. it's one thing to order someone to protect something, and another to order them to kill themselves. as the english specialist, i'll leave it to you to decide which one of the two sounds stupid.

anyway, you've already made it amply clear in previous arguments that you can't be reasoned with. let me just tell you that it's not a trait that will make people like you when you grow up. cheers.

Ur exactly right, good post.

Yea hes a stubborn person while I am like the most open minded on this site.

He doesn't get that there cud be more to KA than that and we don't know because Danzo was not invincible. He cud not take Nagato 1v1 and thats why he never tried when Pain attacked not to mention he wud KA Hiruzen and make him the hokage, thats what Danzo always wanted.

But there can be some flaws, thats like me saying ftg wud instantly kill anyone, even SO6P cuz even in izanagi the sage wud keep getting killed because of the speed.

This is bs.

Anyways I just argue with him to enlighten those around me not him cuz its obvious hes a loser.
 

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Id like to see a vs thread; minato vs danzo.
I have a feeling it would be dominated by minatoflash vs owarij xd
There wud be no winner.

I won't listen to him because he wud talk nothing but nonsense.

He won't listen to me since he has never listened to anyone.

Thus there wud be no winner however ppl wud think i won I guarantee that. U might not be one of those ppl tho.
 
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There wud be no winner.

I won't listen to him because he wud talk nothing but nonsense.

He won't listen to me since he has never listened to anyone.

Thus there wud be no winner however ppl wud think i won I guarantee that. U might not be one of those ppl tho.
Well it depends on the restrictions. If KA is involved danzo should win.

He doesnt need to command minato to kill himself to win. He can command mianto not to defend himself.

If KA is restricted, minato slaughters obviously
 

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Ur exactly right, good post.

Yea hes a stubborn person while I am like the most open minded on this site.

He doesn't get that there cud be more to KA than that and we don't know because Danzo was not invincible. He cud not take Nagato 1v1 and thats why he never tried when Pain attacked not to mention he wud KA Hiruzen and make him the hokage, thats what Danzo always wanted.

But there can be some flaws, thats like me saying ftg wud instantly kill anyone, even SO6P cuz even in izanagi the sage wud keep getting killed because of the speed.

This is bs.

Anyways I just argue with him to enlighten those around me not him cuz its obvious hes a loser.
all i see in your post is a bunch of coulds, coulds, you're speculating that tht isn't all to ka?
He cud not take Nagato 1v1 and thats why he never tried when Pain attacked

Sigh -_- idk , i just can't argue with you people, Common sense would show two things

1) Danzo had no interest in helping konoha during the attack
2) ka CANNOT work on dead bodies
3) Danzo CANNOT beat pain

You little knowledge of the manga reminds me of your how small your intellectual capacity is, when you can't even make a SINGLE decent argument to tell me How in the world people can beat ka, You just end up turning to running away from the argument , while saying that i'm stubborn? Gtfo if thats all you have to offer,


Well it depends on the restrictions. If KA is involved danzo should win.

He doesnt need to command minato to kill himself to win. He can command mianto not to defend himself.

If KA is restricted, minato slaughters obviously

Wtf nooo, don't do that, don't say ANYONE can beat minato, thats taboo infront of that guy, jesus christ
 

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Sigh you sir are a retard....why are you calling teams weaker than nagato/itachi, when i already stated he could possibly beat them?

and also mark my words, All it takes to break ka is for the person to become aware they are under control, so 2v1, where a partner can clearly say "Wtf dude why are you fighting on his side?" will trigger a reaction......

1V1 battle against ka is broken, since the person is unaware they are being controlled, thus 1v1 a ka user can win any battle,
Shouldve just let the newbie alone. Can't get someone to admit their defeat online, its.like trying to get itachi, nagato, sasuke, and minato fans to coexist in a vs thread peacefully. Just impossible.
 

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Well it depends on the restrictions. If KA is involved danzo should win.

He doesnt need to command minato to kill himself to win. He can command mianto not to defend himself.

If KA is restricted, minato slaughters obviously
But Minato wud kill him before he cud activate the genjutsu, the command, or even blink.

all i see in your post is a bunch of coulds, coulds, you're speculating that tht isn't all to ka?


Sigh -_- idk , i just can't argue with you people, Common sense would show two things

1) Danzo had no interest in helping konoha during the attack
2) ka CANNOT work on dead bodies
3) Danzo CANNOT beat pain

You little knowledge of the manga reminds me of your how small your intellectual capacity is, when you can't even make a SINGLE decent argument to tell me How in the world people can beat ka, You just end up turning to running away from the argument , while saying that i'm stubborn? Gtfo if thats all you have to offer,




Wtf nooo, don't do that, don't say ANYONE can beat minato, thats taboo infront of that guy, jesus christ

All the 1,2,3 u did was all ur opinion. And so now he can't beat Pain?? But he can beat Nagato right? Why didn't he use it to become hokage?

Ur a retard, I am sure people wud agree wit me.
 

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But Minato wud kill him before he cud activate the genjutsu, the command, or even blink.




All the 1,2,3 u did was all ur opinion. And so now he can't beat Pain?? But he can beat Nagato right? Why didn't he use it to become hokage?

Ur a retard, I am sure people wud agree wit me.

If you even remotely paid attention to the manga, you'd know pain are all dead bodies controlled by chakra receivers, Use your brain for once... I know you're not used to it, but try, how would ka control dead bodies
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hy didn't he use it to become hokage?
How do you know he Didn't use it to become hokage? the daimyos were talking about making KAKASHI hokage, then randomly bam, danzo glares at him and speaks out, then bam , its settled we'll make danzo the hokage........We can't possibly know if he used it because ao wasn't there...
 

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Jesus christ, we have someone here who thinks A control genjutsu can work on a dead body with no mind of its own ,Lets say in some hypothetical world, a dead body could be ka'd, i hope you know all nagato has to do is stop giving chakra to the specific path that he used it on, and it would just fall dead, and ka would be wasted.. then he just has to put chakra back in it and make it come alive again.....
 

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If you even remotely paid attention to the manga, you'd know pain are all dead bodies controlled by chakra receivers, Use your brain for once... I know you're not used to it, but try, how would ka control dead bodies
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How do you know he Didn't use it to become hokage? the daimyos were talking about making KAKASHI hokage, then randomly bam, danzo glares at him and speaks out, then bam , its settled we'll make danzo the hokage........We can't possibly know if he used it because ao wasn't there...
I still think Ka has its own flaws but until I see them I just gonna say Danzo is around as strong as J-man. He still cannot beat anyone like u say and takes a long time to use it because he chooses not to. And Minato can beat Danzo sorry.

I wud use nothing but pure logic.

Minato can use a kunai or base speed and come at him, put a seal on him and kill him with ftg.
 

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I still think Ka has its own flaws but until I see them I just gonna say Danzo is around as strong as J-man. He still cannot beat anyone like u say and takes a long time to use it because he chooses not to. And Minato can beat Danzo sorry.

I wud use nothing but pure logic.

Minato can use a kunai or base speed and come at him, put a seal on him and kill him with ftg.
....sigh once again, thiss guy doesn't realize danzo has like 12 lives
 

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Close but jiraiya because he can hit Danzo without him knowing it so he wouldn't use Izanagi or he could wait til it's over and use his unlimited sage chakra to destroy him after
Danzo will have to use kotoamatsukami before jiraiya uses genjutsu or frog kata
 

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Close but jiraiya because he can hit Danzo without him knowing it so he wouldn't use Izanagi or he could wait til it's over and use his unlimited sage chakra to destroy him after
Danzo will have to use kotoamatsukami before jiraiya uses genjutsu or frog kata
and jiraya takes like 6mins just to get into sage mode, and extra time to use that genjutsu, while what? ka takes a few seconds..
 
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