Jiraiya vs Sasuke No sage no MS or Ems or susano.

Jiraiya or Sasuke who would win?

  • Jiraiya

    Votes: 28 75.7%
  • Sasuke

    Votes: 9 24.3%

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Vin Thora

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base sasuke is jounin level
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You, sir, have made my day!!
 

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And its with this logic that ive decide to stay away from vs threads. Hardly anybody makes sense. Sasuke cut clean through the tentacles of a tailed beast which is made of meat. Common sense would say he can repeat this feat. Im done here, feel free to quote but you aint getting a reply.
Well, genius, logic doesnt REALLY apply to the Narutoverse does it??:shrug:

I mean, logic dictates Oniki shouldnt fly..., logic and common sense tell me you cant turn into a giant, all powerful fox from time to time. This is an anime, a creation of an artist. Logic and common sense have no place here...:flaw:

The other guy made a valid point; Itachi would not hav resorted to Amaterasu if he had another alternative. Moreover Saucegay's an idiot compared to intelligent fighters like Itachi, Minato, Shikamaru etc. He wouldnt exactly last very long against Jiraiya.

Dont go overboard with the Uchiha fanboyism. They're pretty useless without the Sharingan. Uchiha are NOTHING, I really mean NOTHING, without the Sharingan. Their ability to read movements, execute incredibly powerful jutsus are all taken away from them without it. :sy:

I know you wont reply but I dont care, to be honest. Just wanted to inform anyone else reading this to stop underestimating a fricking Sannin and taking an idiot child's side.
 

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Well, genius, logic doesnt REALLY apply to the Narutoverse does it??:shrug:

I mean, logic dictates Oniki shouldnt fly..., logic and common sense tell me you cant turn into a giant, all powerful fox from time to time. This is an anime, a creation of an artist. Logic and common sense have no place here...:flaw:

The other guy made a valid point; Itachi would not hav resorted to Amaterasu if he had another alternative. Moreover Saucegay's an idiot compared to intelligent fighters like Itachi, Minato, Shikamaru etc. He wouldnt exactly last very long against Jiraiya.

Dont go overboard with the Uchiha fanboyism. They're pretty useless without the Sharingan. Uchiha are NOTHING, I really mean NOTHING, without the Sharingan. Their ability to read movements, execute incredibly powerful jutsus are all taken away from them without it. :sy:

I know you wont reply but I dont care, to be honest. Just wanted to inform anyone else reading this to stop underestimating a fricking Sannin and taking an idiot child's side.
Finally someone WHO MAKES SENSE!!!
 

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jiraiya. sasuke relies too heavily on his sharingan and without it all he has is chidori, hawk summonings and katon ninjutsu.

+he doesn't have a decent amount of chakra reserve.
 

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Well, genius, logic doesnt REALLY apply to the Narutoverse does it??:shrug:

I mean, logic dictates Oniki shouldnt fly..., logic and common sense tell me you cant turn into a giant, all powerful fox from time to time. This is an anime, a creation of an artist. Logic and common sense have no place here...:flaw:

The other guy made a valid point; Itachi would not hav resorted to Amaterasu if he had another alternative. Moreover Saucegay's an idiot compared to intelligent fighters like Itachi, Minato, Shikamaru etc. He wouldnt exactly last very long against Jiraiya.

Dont go overboard with the Uchiha fanboyism. They're pretty useless without the Sharingan. Uchiha are NOTHING, I really mean NOTHING, without the Sharingan. Their ability to read movements, execute incredibly powerful jutsus are all taken away from them without it. :sy:

I know you wont reply but I dont care, to be honest. Just wanted to inform anyone else reading this to stop underestimating a fricking Sannin and taking an idiot child's side.
Ill reply to you in case maybe you come up with a logical way that base jiraiya can beat cm2 sasuke going by the techniques we have seen from both. Depending on your answer ill reply. As for this post youve made, you are right logic doesnt really apply that much in naruto, but this is outside naruto we are talking about.

At the highlighted part, that doesnt even amount to speculation. There could be many reasons why he chose amaterasu. Sasuke has already shown us a technique that can cut clean through a tailed beasts tentacles which is meat. If logic dictates, then its fair to say he can do the same with the frog's stomach which is also meat or am i missing something?.

You say sasuke is an idiot?, he has shown genius feats in all his fights and in fact more than jiraiya has. At the jibe you aimed at the uchiha, im not sure if thats aimed at me or not. Kishi destributed abilities to everyone, logic says if he didnt give the sharigan to an uchiha he wouldve given another power to them or are playing the rule of kishi?. Needless to say itachi graduated from the academy top of his class before he activated his sharigan. His prowess in genjutsu is so elite that he can cast it by pointing his finger. If you add his intelligence, speed, weapon usage, genjutsu and taijutsu, he is still a formidable opponent regardless.

Similarly sasuke graduated top before he activated the sharigan, he also was hailed a genius before the sharigan. If you add his intelligence, taijutsu, mastery of katon and raiton based ninjutsu and weapon usage, he is no pushover neither.

Nobody is underestimating a sannin, i judge based on techniques shown in the manga and from that pre ms sasuke can indeed beat base jiraiya. Majority of the arguments for jiraiya is either hype just like your self or retarded logic.

Anyway from the techniques shown, by jiraiya in base tell me how he beats pre ms sasuke
 
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Jairya will win this.

ANd to blaze, you over think things honestly. You are comparing two different things assuming they are the same. As far as im concern the frog stomach isnt easy to break through, and it must had been a reason itachi resorted to using his MS rathering than having kisame cut through it, or use sharukens.
 

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Jairya will win this.

ANd to blaze, you over think things honestly. You are comparing two different things assuming they are the same. As far as im concern the frog stomach isnt easy to break through, and it must had been a reason itachi resorted to using his MS rathering than having kisame cut through it, or use sharukens.
Well, Actually Kisame was fighting off the flesh. Itachi resorted to MS because the flesh was coming fast, so he had Amaterasu it.
 

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sasukes no idiot. in fact hes a genius and outsmarted danzo of all people.i think sasukes raiton punches through just about anything jiraiya has, and if he summons frogs, sasuke would have his hawk and genjutsu. sasuke got deidara with genjutsu and we all know jiraiya is way worse than deidara at it. it takes time to summon ma and pa and sasuke wont just stand around. plus theres still kirin.

It's actually a little disappointing to think of how weak Sasuke becomes without his all mighty MS(but this could be said for many other character as well).
not weak at all? he took out deidara without it
 

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Jiraiya with his summons easy. Would murder sasuke.
Kirin is one shot, and needs clouds before hand. I dont see it being set up since he cant use amaterasu.

See the thing is, Sasuke can use chidori and fire jutsu. Jiraiya has fire jutsu as well. Sure he can cut through meat pointed out like the eight tails tentacle, but also the point being that the stomache was actually pretty fast, as pointed out but Kisame. Itachi used amaterasu to escape because Kisame wouldnt have been able to cut quickly enough to escape.

The only threat to jiraiya is sasuke's genjutsu. But Jiraiya knows how to break genjutsu. He doesnt need ma and pa to break it, only to use it.

Jiraiyas experiance far outweights sasukes. I know sasuke is quite intelligent and smart, but i think that jiraiya would just be able to out smart him.
With Gamabunta and Gamaken. Without MS I think Jiraiya beats him.
 
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