Jiraiya Vs Kakuzu
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pateuvasiliu
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Mountains are composed of rock, sand, and other materials, none of which are in any way comparable to the durability of diamonds, which are (as far as I know) the hardest metal on the face of the earth. The databook stating it can "hollow out a mountain" does not outweigh Domu being stated to have diamond level durability.
I'm unsure why you hold Kakuzu's durability in such low regard. He took a point blank Futon: Rasenshuriken (which is indisputably more powerful / destructive / lethal than Chou Odama Rasengan) without being protected by Domu. With Domu, it should be fully within Kakuzu's ability to survive an enlarged Rasengan.
I'm unsure why you hold Kakuzu's durability in such low regard. He took a point blank Futon: Rasenshuriken (which is indisputably more powerful / destructive / lethal than Chou Odama Rasengan) without being protected by Domu. With Domu, it should be fully within Kakuzu's ability to survive an enlarged Rasengan.
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pateuvasiliu
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Are you dumb?
Are you going to say that Bijuudama can't destroy Kakuzu, even though it destroyed mountains?
Stop with this shi t. Diamons can be broken with a hammer and you want to tell me a giant Rasengan can't?
Yes it does. Jesus fu ck, how can people argue this?
Even if Rasengan wouldn't destroy him, he can either crush him with Cart Destroyer or melt him with Goemon.
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No..first off we all know that puny rasengan is not putting down a mountain drop the act..
Second TBB destroys Domu, but it has feats U_U it also just means that it has a large scale hence why its able to put down the whole mountain,
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Diamonds being harder than rock is a scientific fact, so. Size, while important, does not outweigh the gap in durability.
Think of it this way - what will you (as a human) have more trouble destroying with your bare hands; a small rock, or a house made of cotton? Surely the house made of cotton will begin to collapse with a well placed strike (or two) while punching the rock will probably shatter your knuckles long before the rock itself actually takes any noticeable damage.
Mate, we have manga scans of an undeniably more powerful Rasengan (Futon: Rasenshuriken) failing to destroy him when he didn't even have Doton: Domu. I'm not sure why you choose to be oblivious to this fact. Foot cart destroyer is yet another blunt / impact based attack (just like Rasengan) which is probably even weaker than Chou Odama Rasengan, so I'm not sure why you would refer to that as a potential alternative.
I can agree with Goemon being a prospective alternative to getting past Domu, but the open location hinders its effectiveness. Jiraiya was able to box Pain into a corridor-like area and essentially "dump" it on him - that will be much more difficult to accomplish in an open field.
We've actually seen Naruto's Chou Odama Rasengan failing to "hollow out" or even kill Pain's rhino, so its actually your databook entry that has most likely been proven false rather than Kakuzu's Doton Domu.
Regardless, you are the one who brought up the databook in this first place (regarding Odama Rasengan being able to hollow out a mountain). If you choose to refer to databook description hyperbole, you will either have to accept it all or accept none of it. You cannot pick and choose which hyperbole suits your argument, and then cast away everything else.
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pateuvasiliu
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FRS slices, Rasengan crushes.
Different damage types.
Don't make me laugh.
Diamond or not, when you drop a 20 ton toad on something it's going to crush it.
Such as what?
Black Wolf
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It still has a Rasengan at its core, thus the massive crater it left in its wake. Furthermore, slicing damage is far more effective than blunt damage against something of Domu's durability.
It is you who is the humorous one. Your best shot at proving a point is "because I say so"? Regardless, Domu enhanced Kakuzu survived a strike from a Bijuu without any noticeable damage.
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pateuvasiliu
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You come with a dagger and try to cut a diamond, I'll come with a hammer.
Let's see who does it best.
If you honestly think Domu can tank a gigantic toad falling on it, enhanced by gravity and mass- well then there's no point debating here.
Black Wolf
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If you wanted an accurate comparison, you'd have to give me a knife that explodes on impact and then proceeds to cut my intended target on the cellular level as well.
You're again ignoring the fact that Futon: Rasenshuriken is more than just slicing damage, as it has the impact based Rasengan at its core. It is the Futon aspect of it that slices. The massive crater on the ground further indicates this. If all it did was slice, it would have cut through Kakuzu like a destructo disc and continue on rather than impact, explode, and then cut him on a cellular level.
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. It deserves more credit than you give it.Lol i don't know why you keep resorting to physical attacks, Swords,Falling on people
When it was stated physical attacks are useless against him ....
Anyways DOMU tanks the **** out of that god damn toad, but he could simply just dig himself underground before the toad hits
When it was stated physical attacks are useless against him ....
Anyways DOMU tanks the **** out of that god damn toad, but he could simply just dig himself underground before the toad hits
Agreed. Jiraiya clearly wins this. I understand Kakuzu is his favorite character, but I mean even I use logic when I debate with Zabuza. His arguments are very poor. He's fanboying
Jiraiya high diff
MisterEggPirate88
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Jiraiya can only win against Kakuzu if he has full Intel on him while Kakuzu has None and if Jiraiya has the Location Advantage to hide and enter Sm as fast as possible. Jiraiya can only kill him with his frog Genjutsu, what can only be used if the circumstance would be as i said before. Otherwise Jiraiya has nothing to take his hearts down, not to say all 5, while bombed by strong elemtal blasts and iron-fists combined with tendrils. After Kakuzus first combined attack Jiraiya will already be exhausted.
NewKageism
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Hold on you post outside of Zabuza threads. Omg I just wet my pants. WTF is he doing here!!!!????:bouncy: