Twisting your words doesn't really support your credibility. Your words are Jiraiya can just trap it in the Toad belly, that jutsu destroyed the multiple headed pain dog summon which was waaay tougher than Kabuto's Manda, which implies that you indeed meant the technique used against Pain's dog, which was a filler. The Jutsu used against Itachi and Kisame works different. It takes way longer to devour targets and it can't just disappear along with everything trapped inside, since that'd include Jiraiya as well. Aside from that you don't seem to get the technique's limits: Since the stomach of a real, fire spitting toad is summoned, its size can only be increased to a certain extend - and there is no toad whose size is even close to that of Manda II. To put it in a nutshell, that technique does not work, especially not on an open, plain field. The same goes for any toad Jiraiya can summon. My post is based on pure facts; by saying that Pain's creatures are superior to Manda II because their origin is the Rinnegan you are making speculations. Pretty ridiculous ones, by the way, since Manda II is superior in terms of size, speed and senses - all those things are the most deciding factors in a fight between Kuchyose animals. It doesn't really matter anyway, since he's by far superior to any toad Jiraiya can summon. As I already said many times. As for Yomi Numa, as I said, even with full Chakra control making a swamp big enough to drown Manda II is a very hard task. In the end it would be useless anyway, since Kabuto can re-summon Manda. Your argument with Minato is a huge fail, since Kuchyose no Jutsu is a Jikukan (space/time) Ninjutsu. If Manda should be drowned by the swamp Kabuto simply uses Kuchyose no Jutsu again, to summon him next to him, out of the swamp. End of Story.
Jiraiya only escaped into a barrier once - and in case you didn't notice, that barrier was inside a frog. Meaning that there will be a small frog with Jiraiya inside, being an easy target for Kabuto. The barrier he used on top of Gamaken is only used to locate enemies - it doesn't have any offensive or defensive abilities. As I said, the frog song takes too long, and like before you didn't tell me how Jiraiya intends to avoid Hakugeki combined with Muki Tensei - most likely because there is no way. Just face it, Kabuto and Orochimaru are superior to Jiraiya.
There's about one valid and relevant point in that whole ramble of Kabuto fanboyism and stupidity that you just wrote lol. That the scene with the Pain dog summon might have been a filler. Now, to prove why everything else you're saying is nonsense:
Show any where in the manga, noob where someone summons a creature, than
after summoning him is able to summon him to himself constantly or summon him to other locations
on the active battlefield. That is time space ninjutsu, in a summoning you can only summon the creature once, or summon yourself inside that creature or reverse summon the creature back to the place of origin, it cannot be done repeatedly once the creature has arrived . Or can you show me anywhere where a summon is first summoned, then the caster moves away from said summon and then manages to bring the animal to himself and other places on the field he's fighting in instantly by spamming the summoning jutsu?And do this repeatedly? Now if you don't understand this and think of making a stupid reply, then don't. You will only humiliate yourself.
You are just being spoon fed and brainwashed by Kishi, every new chapter there is some new hype and idiots like you line up to make foolish remarks about how OP this or that character is blah blah blah, its part of the plot to exaggerate abilities of the people being shown atm, don't take everything at face value, learn this basic comprehension skill and then come back and argue with me.
For someone who accuses me of twisting facts you certainly are quite the hypocrite as your doing the same thing yourself:
1. Show me a manga page that proves none of Jiraiya's summons can compete with Kabuto's Manda. Oh and stop making assumptions due to your personal opinion on the importance of size. The Elder toads are tiny yet have incredible power.
2. Provide proof that Manda 2 can't be beaten by a fully healthy, Sage mode Jiraiya's swamp of the Underworld.
3. Provide any example where Kabuto or anyone else,
after summoning a creature and getting some distance between themselves and said creature, can magically teleport this creature to themselves all
on the same battlefield and not back to where the creature came from.
And why is the Rinnegan statement speculation, may i ask? Because it does'nt go well with your own thoughts? Listen, idiot. The Rinnegan was the eye of the Sage of the 6 paths, the founder of ninjutsu who Kabuto has himself called a 'God' who even with Edo Madara he said he had only reached a fraction of that God's power . Any abilities that come from a tool(Rinnegan=tool of the Sage) of a 'God' are only logically assumed to be on a whole other level to other abilities of a similar type. If you can't grasp such basic analogy then you should give up on reading the manga, its obviously too much for you to process. Or can any of Kabuto's summons self replicate themself after being attacked?Repeatedly at that, regardless of the scale or strength of the attack? That does'nt seem stronger than just being 'big' to you LMAO?
One last point, about the toad stomach thing, these are your words:
Since the stomach of a real, fire spitting toad is summoned, its size can only be increased to a certain extend
Can you give me a manga page that says this ? Or are you pulling things out of your ass and accusing others at the same time of losing credibility lol? Not that it matters, most of what you said is just random rage/ fanboyism induced by hype in any case but if you can it would show your words have at least some basis to them. So far, you come across as a tool and a douche, and if anyone has to establish i their opinion is worth sth, its you. Look at your rep bar for instance, its just 1 even after 700 plus posts, that's what i call a failure smh.
