He doesn't start in sage mode. Kiba can make a hole in the giant stomach. Jiraya will be surrounded from all directions, he won't have the chance to use his fire-oil combination and it won't hit them all anyway. Lee alone wipes the floor with Jiraiya. I admit swamp of the underworld is very op but can he even use it considering shadow binding will be following him forcing him to be mobile ? Air palm would seal his fate. Just the continuous attacks from all directions would decimate him in seconds. K11 are very underestimated, people expect them to not gang the enemies and stay flocked together doing nothing
What are they gonna do to stop it?. Jiraiya used this combo when he in ontop of the toads head (who is bijuu sized). None of the k11 can reach him, Expecially if he tells Gamabunta to jump before using the combo.
The only person who can match Gamabunta's size is choji who is easily taken care of with the Swamp jutsu.
Swamp hasn't any complex hand seals, I doubt it's that hard for an elite shinobi such as jiraiya to perform Two hand signs while on the move. All it takes to complete is for him to touch the ground.
Even if he does get caught, aslong as the jutsu activates, Shikamaru wouldn't be able to maintain the shadow binding and get out of the large swamp.
A giant BM Choji can punch out any toad Jiraiya sends out:
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Look at the shockwaves blasting back any nearby ninjas by Choji's fist merely connecting with Gedo Mazo.
Then there's Sakura (who can also summon Katsuyu to spam acid):
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Kiba:
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Shino:
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If he puts that bug in any toad, they won't be there anymore. If he puts that bug in Jiraiya, K11 win. And Shino can get close enough to land that bug, thanks to Shikamaru's Shadow Mimic (
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) restraining his target, Sai flying him in with a bird (
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), Ino using Shitenshin on his intended target or 5th Gate Lee using his speed to carry Shino and get him close.
That doesn't matter much when he can't do anything about the incoming attacks. 6th Gate Lee can speedblitz him, barrier or no barrier. BM Choji's strength outclasses any of Jiraiya's toads, and he can use it to
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. Jiraiya loses if he engages in close combat with either Lee, Neji, Hinata, Sakura, or any combination of the above.
Assuming he gets the time to go into Sage Mode with Choji punching away his summons, being pressured by Lee's Gated speed as well as Neji's close combat skills/Neji and Hinata's Wall Palm, Katsuyu's acid, Kiba's Spinning Fang, or Shino co-operating with either Shikamaru, Ino or Lee to oneshot either Jiraiya or his summons.
That combination requires a toad to provide Jiraiya with the oil to perform such a high level Katon. Toads that can be restrained/defeated in several ways that have been noted above. And that's also assuming he doesn't have Lee already up in his grill.
Sakura can make a foothold for the team via summoning Katsuyu.
Choji can make himself grow more than large enough to get out of the swamp, then he can pick up the others out of the swamp.
Lee outsped Madara's black Jinton balls in 5th Gate whilst carrying Guy, who's larger than him. He can also enter 5th Gate pretty much instantly now. Therefore he can easily avoid the swamp whilst carrying someone with his Gated speed. If either Lee or Choji save Sai from the swamp first, then he draws a couple birds and pulls out the rest from the swamp.
That jutsu requires Jiraiya to keep his palms to the floor to control the toad's stomach. It also happens to be pathetic in restraining people.
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. You really think that's going to restrain Lee, or Sakura, or Choji with the strength and speed feats they have shown?
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and Hinata could also get out via
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. Then there's the fact that bringing out that stomach will make Jiraiya a large bullseye for Shikamaru's Shadow Mimic, or even Ino's Shintenshin. Using that jutsu would probably be Jiraiya's biggest mistake, as it limits him far, far more than it limits the K11.
True but that's not the same case for all.It is clear as day Kishi avoids drawing hand signs and shit when he feel like it is not necessary.Look at Minato,we can't see him using blood or hand signs to summon Bunta against Kyuubi.Does that means he can use summoning jutsu without blood? No,He clearly used blood to summon that fodder toad that holds Kyuubi's seal.
True but that's not the same case for all.It is clear as day Kishi avoids drawing hand signs and shit when he feel like it is not necessary.Look at Minato,we can't see him using blood or hand signs to summon Bunta against Kyuubi.Does that means he can use summoning jutsu without blood? No,He clearly used blood to summon that fodder toad that holds Kyuubi's seal.
The more you struggle, the more you sink
A bottomless swamp from Hell!!
By changing the ground into mud and creating a swamp, the enemy is sunk deep underground...!! The adhesive, chakra-infused mud ensnares the enemy's body. It's impossible to recover one's strength and escape from there. The size and depth of the created swamp depend on the user's skill and the amount of chakra used, but if the user is an expert in this technique, it will always be possible to make a fair-sized swamp! When fighting a great number of enemies or having to face gigantic creatures, this is an extremely effective technique.
I didn't said that you said something like that.I was just using it as an example to explain how Kishi bypasses hand signs.Yes seals are optional but not always.It is not wise and logical to just assume that Sakura can use it without seals just because Kishi didn't draw the seals.
I didn't said that you said something like that.I was just using it as an example to explain how Kishi bypasses hand signs.Yes seals are optional but not always.It is not wise and logical to just assume that Sakura can use it without seals just because Kishi didn't draw the seals.
