Jiraiya vs K11

[TheTailedSage]

Is this really coming from you? It takes two hand signs to perform that jutsu.

With a gates user and a shadow user + others he's under constant assult

 

[Jimihendrix]

Jman didn't fight deva, or machine path.
Animal path alone forced him to pull out sage mode.
The overhype is real.

I think the hype is warranted as pain said and is canon: JIRAIYA WOULD'VE DEFEATED THEM IF HE UNDERSTOOD THEIR SECRET.

Stop downplaying the Jman. He merks the K11. Cause again, they couldn't kill a single pain when they were all separated.
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[A v i]

With a gates user and a shadow user + others he's under constant assult

He can activate that jutsu even b4 Lee can enter gates let alone constant assult against Jiraiya.

 

[Jimihendrix]

His size alone is a disadvantage and giving her strength she can toss around Gama like a ragdoll. One punch to his throat or stomach and it send him flying. J-man can only summon one toad in base. and he wont have any time to use musch jutsu with 10-11 people fighting him at once especially Lee and neji

your logic is flawed.
Sakura does not have the strength to do that, unless you're implying her strength is equal to the strength of sage mode (which its' not, indicated by Shikaku stating that sage mode naruto is in a completely different league than the rest of the village). Bunta steps on her and she dies.

If she doesn't have sage mode she aint doing shit to bunta

 

[TheTailedSage]

He can activate that jutsu even b4 Lee can enter gates let alone constant assult against Jiraiya.

And your forgetting Sakura has Katsuya to summon if the situation should come to him using it. Gates alone would blow away the swamp around Lee as it did the water around gai. J-man wouldn't endanger himself by putting himself in the mud too so he would be on the land. by the time he casts the jutsu Lee has already entered gates

your logic is flawed.
Sakura does not have the strength to do that, unless you're implying her strength is equal to the strength of sage mode (which its' not, indicated by Shikaku stating that sage mode naruto is in a completely different league than the rest of the village). Bunta steps on her and she dies.

If she doesn't have sage mode she aint doing shit to bunta

Shes stronger of that of SM what are you on about? and i don't even like sakura but its clear her strength is clearly superior to that of SM.
Hate using scans for Sakura but when has SM strength ever been shown to do this scale of damage

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,comparing a human to just his forehead, this blast should devistate him

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.The crater Sakura made would make bunta look like an ant. Plus base Tsunade in part one was able to pick up a Giant sword and shove it into Manadas mouth. Keeping in mind the sword she picked up was made of metal

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She is more than capable of surpassing Naruto in terms of strength. (SM as a whole surpasses Sakura. he's not just reffering to strength). As if she needs SM to destroy bunta

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I think the hype is warranted as pain said and is canon: JIRAIYA WOULD'VE DEFEATED THEM IF HE UNDERSTOOD THEIR SECRET.

Stop downplaying the Jman. He merks the K11. Cause again, they couldn't kill a single pain when they were all separated.
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Pains statement=/= what happened.

Pain said kakashi would be problematic if left alive yet for the most part solo'd him.

He isn't being downplayed, we've already seen how he fairs against multiple opponents.

K11 mid diff.

 

[A v i]

And your forgetting Sakura has Katsuya to summon if the situation should come to him using it. Gates alone would blow away the swamp around Lee as it did the water around gai. J-man wouldn't endanger himself by putting himself in the mud too so he would be on the land. by the time he casts the jutsu Lee has already entered gates

Not sure if you are being serious or not, Are you telling me that Sakura has enough time to use summoning jutsu against Jiraiya b4 he can use SUW jutsu which takes just two hand signs? the different b/w Jman and k11 is 30M which is more than enough for Jman to be at safe side.none of them are making a move that can stop Jiraiya from making two hand signs.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Not sure if you are being serious or not, Are you telling me that Sakura has enough time to using summoning jutsu against Jiraiya b4 he can use SUW jutsu which takes just two hand signs? the different b/w Jman and k11 is 30M which is more than enough for Jman to be at safe side.none of them are making a move that can stop Jiraiya from making two hand signs.

Weaving two handsigns, takes roughly the same amount of time as summoning something.

 

[LuckyMan]

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Need I say more? They all become snacks to the Great Mountain Toad and there is nothing none of them can do about it. He easily beats them this is a spite topic.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Not sure if you are being serious or not, Are you telling me that Sakura has enough time to using summoning jutsu against Jiraiya b4 he can use SUW jutsu which takes just two hand signs? the different b/w Jman and k11 is 30M which is more than enough for Jman to be at safe side.none of them are making a move that can stop Jiraiya from making two hand signs.

I didnt say they did im saying The mud isnt going to sink them all the way under in just seconds but once it does catch them Sakura has time to summon katsuya and then we have choji with Expantion jutsu. IF he does this he could easily grab them out of it and toss them to land. They have too much participants and variety of skill to loose to one jutsu your having a laugh.

 

[Beans2]

I didnt say they did im saying The mud isnt going to sink them all the way under in just seconds but once it does catch them Sakura has time to summon katsuya and then we have choji with Expantion jutsu. IF he does this he could easily grab them out of it and toss them to land. They have too much participants and variety of skill to loose to one jutsu your having a laugh.

Dark Swamp from below and Food Cart Destroyer above would sink Choji into the earth. He drowns.

 

[Headmaster]

K11 low - mid diff

Sakura, lee, and neji will f up jiriya the rest are supports

 

[Braiyan]

Swamp of the Underworld is not sinking a Choji who can enlarge himself and enter BM at will. Neither is it catching a Lee who dodged Madara's faster-than-Kamui black Jinton balls whilst carrying someone bigger than him, and who can

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. He can easily escape the swamp whilst carrying someone, then open the 6th Gate and put pressure on Jiraiya, whilst Choji grabs the rest and get thems out of the swamp. And this is assuming Sakura doesn't summon just Katsuyu underneath the team as a foothold to counter the Swamp as well.

The thing is Lee and Choji don't need the rest of the K11 to beat Jiraiya. With Lee's speed feats in the 5th Gate, and the power increase 6th Gate gives, he could arguably just pinball Jiraiya into enlarged Choji's BM fist long before he tries to go into Sage Mode.

 

[Akatsukii]

I can't believe this is even an argument the K11 take this mid diff. Jiraiya doesn't have the necessary counter-attacks for the varied movesets of the K11 members not to mention Sai who he would have no knowledge on.

 

[A v i]

I didnt say they did im saying The mud isnt going to sink them all the way under in just seconds but once it does catch them Sakura has time to summon katsuya and then we have choji with Expantion jutsu. IF he does this he could easily grab them out of it and toss them to land. They have too much participants and variety of skill to loose to one jutsu your having a laugh.

Not a chance,an imperfect version of SUW managed to suck half of giant snake bodies in an instant.Unlike last time i.e. his battle with Orochimaru,Jiraiya is in a good shape now so he can perform a better version of SUW than last time so they are not going to escape it and if Choji expands himself then Jiraiya sits on top of him with Bunta or even if they can escape it by any chance then Jiraiya has planty of time to kill them while thay are trying to escape.

Weaving two handsigns, takes roughly the same amount of time as summoning something.

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It takes 5 hand signs and a lil bit of your blood to use summoning jutsu so she is not going to pull a summon within equal amount of time unless you think Sakura can wave hand signs alot faster than Jiraiya.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Not a chance,an imperfect version of SUW managed to suck half of giant snake bodies in an instant.Unlike last time i.e. his battle with Orochimaru,Jiraiya is in a good shape now so he can perform a better version of SUW than last time so they are not going to escape it and if Choji expands himself then Jiraiya sits on top of him with Bunta or even if they can escape it by any chance then Jiraiya has planty of time to kill them while thay are trying to escape.




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It takes 5 hand signs and a lil bit of your blood to use summoning jutsu so she is not going to pull a summon within equal amount of time unless you think Sakura can wave hand signs alot faster than Jiraiya.

Actually when sakura did it it took 0 handsigns. She bit he finger then slapped the floor.

 

[A v i]

Actually when sakura did it it took 0 handsigns. She bit he finger then slapped the floor.

Kishi didn't draw them that dosen't mean that she did it without hand signs.

 

[WreckRolled]

K11 low mid diff

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kishi didn't draw them that dosen't mean that she did it without hand signs.

It most likely does.
We've seen kakashi and sasuke use chidori/raikiri without handseals ask the time. Even though it supposedly needs like 11.

In fact handseals are just too help mold the chakra. When one is proficient enough less/ no handseals are required.

Another example would be mei dropping the amount of seals for water Dragon from 44 to...1.

 

[Exaar]

People are overrating the k11 alot here.

People seem to think that Jiraiya only has one boss toad, I'd like to see the K11 deal with 3 Boss toads

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Jiriya puts up a barrier and senses any in coming attacks or sneak attacks, It also has a large radius

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His Physical strength in Sm is quite high

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They also have no counter to

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Or this (Drugged jiraiya who couldn't controll his chakra properly yet he made a very large swamp)

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This one shots most of them if not all

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K11 aren't taking this with Low-Med dif, If anything even in the best scenario, Most will be killed.