Jiraiya v/s Akatsuki's....

[Saiyan Kammy]

to cheap for anyone to kneel to an uchiha.. No one is saying Itachi wasn't a genius, I am saying yeah, genius, easily if happened beaten by Jiraiya.

Besides, if you thik about it , Itachi was receiving orders from DaNZOu and the elders so he might not even have planned his so called super plan.

Just, a simple messenger..poor kitty Itachi:hug:

how can you say it is cheap to kneel to a uchiha. the uchihas were feared by all because they were the strongest clan. and wasnt itachi also taking orders from hiruzen the proffesor?

 

[lord niijima]

you can't just pit someone against everybody. he's bound to lose to someone you might think he would win easily. take naruto for example, he won against pain. sasuke also won against {and please no itachi let him win bulls**t. even if he let him win, he still put out a great fight}. but can you think of naruto winning against itachi....mmmmmm no. what about sasuke wining agaihst pain...... hahaha nope not in a million years. so you see every ninja has someone who can own him. a lot of factors also come into play. do u think jiraiya would have lost to pain if he new his secret, or just that he had 6 bodies?. he just let his guard down because he thought he had won. so you can't really determine until they actually fights. for all we know, deidara can even own j-man with his nano bombs since he doesn't have the sharingan to actually see them.

 

[Spartan117]

you can't just pit someone against everybody. he's bound to lose to someone you might think he would win easily. take naruto for example, he won against pain. sasuke also won against {and please no itachi let him win bulls**t. even if he let him win, he still put out a great fight}. but can you think of naruto winning against itachi....mmmmmm no. what about sasuke wining agaihst pain...... hahaha nope not in a million years. so you see every ninja has someone who can own him. a lot of factors also come into play. do u think jiraiya would have lost to pain if he new his secret, or just that he had 6 bodies?. he just let his guard down because he thought he had won. so you can't really determine until they actually fights. for all we know, deidara can even own j-man with his nano bombs since he doesn't have the sharingan to actually see them.

Remember sage mode can sense users chakra... with ma and pa... no way lol
Jiraya is strong... he was beaten twice as far as I know one by hanzo not really beaten because, jiraya was still standing. Jiraya against Nagato he lost he let his guard down.

Not all ninja have someone who can own them lol. Shodai was not.... Please don't let me mention Yondaime!

 

[veggetta13]

Hammy and kisamex rocks once explained how stupid it is to try to make a top 10 of fighters when it is soooo circumstancial, I mean, the way fighters died..many of them in the manga even pretended to be defeated..
it always depends who yo are fighting

Jiraiya actually didn't fight too many characters..with proof, I can accept Itachi.

 

[GregTheGamer]

Even Jiraiya would be overwhelmed by 100,000 zetzus

 

[Inception]

lord niijima is right. All you can do is speculate on who would win.

Exactly Look at all the ultimate Defenses Gaara's (big weakness is speed). Neji has a blind spot and its useless in long range. Sasuke's inferior version of Susano'o will get owned by Naruto...

We've only seen Yata's Mirror once and Zetsu mentions it being a Spirit Item that makes all attacks used against it ineffective. Yata's Mirror with the sword that seals souls on contact (Totsuka Sword); is an invincible defense with an invincible offense. You can argue that "so and so" can dodge it or beat it but you can't deny the fact that using both of these Spirit Items will likely result in a easy victory. We have not seen Itachi's Susano'o as much to assume that it's beatable by someone but it's safe to say that it has a weakness. Everything has a weakness. It could be just the risk of using all these techniques (Spirit Items plus Susano'o) at once, just like Gai's techniques.

Danzo already broke through Sasuke's Susano'o and Raikage hit through his Amaterasu cloaked Susano'o.

Remember sage mode can sense users chakra... with ma and pa... no way lol
Jiraya is strong... he was beaten twice as far as I know one by hanzo not really beaten because, jiraya was still standing. Jiraya against Nagato he lost he let his guard down.

Not all ninja have someone who can own them lol. Shodai was not.... Please don't let me mention Yondaime!

Have you considered how long it takes for Jiraiya to go into Sage Mode? Jiraiya never let his guard down. He was trying to find the true identity of Pain and the secret of the Rinnegan. Regardless of that, Jiraiya did not win against Nagato. It's still impressive how he took on Pain and his three bodies without knowing their secrets, techniques or powers. Had Jiraiya known Pain's powers, would the fight end differently? Maybe. We can say that he did play a huge role in defeating Pain; "The real one is not there".

 

[-The Agent-]

lord niijima is right. All you can do is speculate on who would win.



We've only seen Yata's Mirror once and Zetsu mentions it being a Spirit Item that makes all attacks used against it ineffective. Yata's Mirror with the sword that seals souls on contact (Totsuka Sword); is an invincible defense with an invincible offense. You can argue that "so and so" can dodge it or beat it but you can't deny the fact that using both of these Spirit Items will likely result in a easy victory. We have not seen Itachi's Susano'o as much to assume that it's beatable by someone but it's safe to say that it has a weakness. Everything has a weakness. It could be just the risk of using all these techniques (Spirit Items plus Susano'o) at once, just like Gai's techniques.

Danzo already broke through Sasuke's Susano'o and Raikage hit through his Amaterasu cloaked Susano'o.

Yeah I know That is basically what I was saying. Every ultimate defense we have seen has a weakness. we've seen Itachi's susano'o once so fo course we wont know its weakness. But I did say that Sasuke's version is nothing compared to Itachi's because multiple people broke though his inferior version of Susano's defense.

 

[Spartan117]

lord niijima is right. All you can do is speculate on who would win.



We've only seen Yata's Mirror once and Zetsu mentions it being a Spirit Item that makes all attacks used against it ineffective. Yata's Mirror with the sword that seals souls on contact (Totsuka Sword); is an invincible defense with an invincible offense. You can argue that "so and so" can dodge it or beat it but you can't deny the fact that using both of these Spirit Items will likely result in a easy victory. We have not seen Itachi's Susano'o as much to assume that it's beatable by someone but it's safe to say that it has a weakness. Everything has a weakness. It could be just the risk of using all these techniques (Spirit Items plus Susano'o) at once, just like Gai's techniques.

Danzo already broke through Sasuke's Susano'o and Raikage hit through his Amaterasu cloaked Susano'o.



Have you considered how long it takes for Jiraiya to go into Sage Mode? Jiraiya never let his guard down. He was trying to find the true identity of Pain and the secret of the Rinnegan. Regardless of that, Jiraiya did not win against Nagato. It's still impressive how he took on Pain and his three bodies without knowing their secrets, techniques or powers. Had Jiraiya known Pain's powers, would the fight end differently? Maybe. We can say that he did play a huge role in defeating Pain; "The real one is not there".

Please read before you quote about my quote yo!
I am on jiraya-sama strong side -.-

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

zetsu mentioned that itachi with his mastery with the sharingan and sussano with the legendary items stated that itachi is nearly invincible

 

[Inception]

Please read before you quote about my quote yo!
I am on jiraya-sama strong side -.-

Jiraiya

I read it.

 

[simonsez0800]

ok. Let's start

are you insane? Itachi and kisame couldn't take jiraiya on their own, they even said so???!!remember?
A cool thing about j man is he's either a long or close range fighter, the guy's got a cocktail menu of jutsus to attack with..
Susano"o??? Stop blowing...uuu, huge mass of chakra, so what? Jiraiya always proved to be a quick fighter, he could have imprisoned itachi even before he attacked him with susilo.
Hidan=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz dogmeat for jiraiya. Too quick, too strong, too fierceful.

Kakuzo? Nah, he is scary, but seeing him objectively for allthe chakra his got and element ability, he';s a pretty crappy fighter in all ground scheme.

Nagato? The revenge? Knowing enough about the way pein fights, jiraiya, even without a full sage mode, could've beaten pein, i do think j man was a good strategist.

Deidara? Give me a break. All you need to do is get him off the sky and bye-bye akatsuki artist

madara: Shit!! I dunno. J man could have, before madara took over the rinnegan, now, i dunno

sasori would have become good wood stock for a camp fire":?!>!

i agree with u 100% itachi and kisame said it there self with both of them at the same time couldnt beat jaraiya and all the other akatsuki beside madara would fall before jaraiya

 

[Avani]

itachi at full power with susano would beat sage mode jiraiya. jiraiya is fast in sage mode but he would not break threw the incredible yata mirror then when jiraiya gets tired with sage mode itachi will use the legendary totsuka sword to seal jiraiyas fate in a invincible genjutsu

Aren't you forgetting something? Sage mode uses nature's chakra- it doesn't tire the user but, refreshes him. The only problem is gathering it continuously for which Jiraiya used help of Old toad couples. It was Itachi who got tired soon due to use of Sharingan as MS used up his chakra. After using Tsukoyumi and Ametsrasu one after another soon he had to run away along with Kisame from Jiraiya. I didn't see Kisame using his Samehada to get free of Toads belly and helping out Itachi.

And when Toads are attached to his shoulders genjutsu won't work on Jiraiya, since they can free him from it soon enough.

If Raikage can break Susano ribs maybe Jiraya could try and we can see how a a sage mode rasengan affects it.

I think Nagato and Tobi might have been a challange for Jiraiya. If Jiraiya knew about Nagato beforehand he might have better prepared but he kind of already accepted his fate and decided to gather only as much info as he could instead of retreating back and fight another day.

Kakuzu would have ben beaten. Sasori and deidara would not stand a chance too.
Orochimaru would probably would be probably a stand off case.
Hidan- If Jiraiya realized his trick in time he had no chance otherwise 50%. Hidan was not much talented but his trick was quite mean and deceptive.

 

[Escorpiius]

i agree with u 100% itachi and kisame said it there self with both of them at the same time couldnt beat jaraiya and all the other akatsuki beside madara would fall before jaraiya

Why did you revived this thread?
Get infracted at your own risk!

 

[xShinra Tensei]

zetsu mentioned that itachi with his mastery with the sharingan and sussano with the legendary items stated that itachi is nearly invincible

If he was in his prime, which he wasn't due to disease; as seen in the Sasuke fight, it took a hell of alot for him to maintain Susano'o, Jiraiya could probably time-stall inside barrier toads inside Bunta while charging up SM lol.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

to the person who said itachi and kisame couldn't take down jiraiya i disagree it states that kisame has chakra of a jinchuuriki because of his sword i think chiyo stated it i forgot who jiraiya would have a hard time beating itahchi heck itachi might be allot more skillful than jiraiya to begin with and kisami would damage jiraiya

 

[a thousand years of death]

tobi maybe, otherwise i dont think any of them can actually beat jiraiya. would be some close matches with cahrs like itachi and kakuzu but i dont think they can beat the toad sage.

 

[Rihari]

Madara is the only one

maybe itachi but besides them none of them would have won i dont even think itachi would win to be honest

 

[JMAN]

I hate it when people say that itachi's got susanoo so he can beat JMan, Susanoo is a very risked technique, it takes alot of chakra and eyesight. Do you really think Itachi can stay in Susanoo mode all the fight ? , No one can, even with EMS you can't because it takes too much chakra

Thanks