Jiraiya,Tsunade,3rd raikage,4th raikage> Minato and Tobirama

[Sacrosanct]

The one who stands the best chance here is the Sandaime Raikage, as he can outlast the both of them in a one-on-one battle and his speed will keep him on their toes (well, probably not Minato, seeing as the Sandaime Raikage is assumed to be slower than the Yondaime Raikage).

 

[Crossroads]

The one who stands the best chance here is the Sandaime Raikage, as he can outlast the both of them in a one-on-one battle and his speed will keep him on their toes (well, probably not Minato, seeing as the Sandaime Raikage is assumed to be slower than the Yondaime Raikage).

Minato FTG to Sandaime Raikage and Rasengan's his hand to his chest like Naruto.

He actually goes down first.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Minato FTG to Sandaime Raikage and Rasengan's his hand to his chest like Naruto.

He actually goes down first.

With what marking? With what information on the Sandaime Raikage's wound? You do realize that your situation implies that he's already activated Hell Stab, when in canon he was shown to use raiton armor first?

You do know these are one-on-one fights, right? Did you read the thread?

No, the Sandaime Raikage never told anyone of how he acquired that wound and it was assumed that a Tailed Beast Bomb caused it during his fight with the Hachibi. Tobirama has no knowledge on it.

 

[The Sach]

With what marking? With what information on the Sandaime Raikage's wound? You do realize that your situation implies that he's already activated Hell Stab, when in canon he was shown to use raiton armor first?

You do know these are one-on-one fights, right? Did you read the thread?

No, the Sandaime Raikage never told anyone of how he acquired that wound and it was assumed that a Tailed Beast Bomb caused it during his fight with the Hachibi. Tobirama has no knowledge on it.

I think Minato and Tobirama will figure it out if Naruto can..

 

[Crossroads]

With what marking? With what information on the Sandaime Raikage's wound? You do realize that your situation implies that he's already activated Hell Stab, when in canon he was shown to use raiton armor first?

You do know these are one-on-one fights, right? Did you read the thread?

No, the Sandaime Raikage never told anyone of how he acquired that wound and it was assumed that a Tailed Beast Bomb caused it during his fight with the Hachibi. Tobirama has no knowledge on it.

Minato and Tobirama are some of the most intelligent and quick reacting people in the Manga.

They would find out that the only thing strong enough to pierce his armor is himself.

Why wouldn't have Hell Stab active? Unless he isn't on the offensive.

They can mark it with a clone?

 

[Sacrosanct]

Minato and Tobirama are some of the most intelligent and quick reacting people in the Manga.

They would find out that the only thing strong enough to pierce his armor is himself.

Why wouldn't have Hell Stab active? Unless he isn't on the offensive.

They can mark it with a clone?

Now tell me, why would they go after the Sandaime Raikage when they can easily pick apart the slower targets, such as Tsunade and Jiraiya before he gets into Sage Mode? Actually, I think stopping Jiraiya from summoning the toads and entering Sage Mode would be priority, or attacking Tsunade as she's the medic of the group as well as the easiest target. It's highly unlikely that they would target the Sandaime Raikage out of all people.

 

[Crossroads]

Now tell me, why would they go after the Sandaime Raikage when they can easily pick apart the slower targets, such as Tsunade and Jiraiya before he gets into Sage Mode? Actually, I think stopping Jiraiya from summoning the toads and entering Sage Mode would be priority, or attacking Tsunade as she's the medic of the group as well as the easiest target. It's highly unlikely that they would target the Sandaime Raikage out of all people.

I honestly think it would be a 1v2 on each person's side.

Minato takes Ay and his father.

Tobirama takes Jiraiya and Tsunade.

Obviously Jiraiya and Tsunade is going to take longer, so it comes down to who loses the Minato Vs. Raikage's.

You can't focus on Jiraiya to be honest, he's going to find a way to enter Sage Mode.. and letting two of the fastest and strongest people in the Manga do what they want isn't a great plan.

 

[Sacrosanct]

I honestly think it would be a 1v2 on each person's side.

Minato takes Ay and his father.

Tobirama takes Jiraiya and Tsunade.

Obviously Jiraiya and Tsunade is going to take longer, so it comes down to who loses the Minato Vs. Raikage's.

You can't focus on Jiraiya to be honest, he's going to find a way to enter Sage Mode.. and letting two of the fastest and strongest people in the Manga do what they want isn't a great plan.

This shows you didn't read the thread and you confused me into thinking it was a 2v4 battle as well even after I corrected you, meaning you didn't take the time to read through my post as well. All of these battles are 1v1, go back and read the OP.

 

[Crossroads]

This shows you didn't read the thread and you confused me into thinking it was a 2v4 battle as well even after I corrected you, meaning you didn't take the time to read through my post as well. All of these battles are 1v1, go back and read the OP.

I read your posts, I didn't read the OP because TheRapGuy is a troll. False assumption on your part.
The title is misleading.

But 1v1 Tobirama takes Ay, Tsunade, and Jiraiya.

Sandaime Raikage is debatable, don't know how he'd make him pierce himself.

Minato takes them all.

 

[Crossroads]

Naruto could have never figured out without Hachibi's infos, your argument is invalid.

Naruto actually figured it out for himself.

Hachibi didn't know himself, he just gave Naruto the info of what happened when the fight was over that let Naruto assume it was Hell Stab.

 

[Avinash012]

Jman VS Minato : Minato take's this

Minato vs Rikage's : One of the most arrogant charecter who hate's to admit other's superiourity,the almighty 4th Rikage admited that no oone can beat Minato and that include's 3rd Rikage......

Minato vs Tsunade : No explination needed ,If Minato had real Killing intent Then fight wil be over in an Instant

Tobirama vs Jman : Could go either way

Tobirama vs 3rd Rikage : Tobirama take's this high dif

Tobirama vs Tsunade : Tobirama mid dif

Tobirama vs 4th Rikage : could go either way

 

[ssiddiq78]

The only problem for minato & tobirama is 3rd raikage rest of them dont have chance in landing a blow on minato same can be said for tobi but his ftg is not versatile as minatos.
Minato can use clone with ftg after marking the target he can attack with rasengan and clone from any direction repeatedly.

 

[Percy Jackson]

J-man might have a chance on defeating minato if he got to use his SM in the start of the battle. Inother words basic jiraya can't win against minato or tobirama.

Tsunade's speed is quite underrated she's not slow, but comparing her speed to the speedster like minato and tobirama is just to much for her. It's true as long Tsunade has a chakra she can regenerate her body.. But her chakra reserve is not infinite.. They can hit her and she can regenerate, that will takes time. But don't forget that she's be losing lots of chakra on regenerating her wounds. If that's happen, ofcourse she'll become old and if she's become old even konohamaru can stomp her.

Young 4th raikage vs minato by using manga fact.. Minato wins. Tobirama can also do the same with combination effort water jutsu, clones + FTG or edo.

3rd raikage dose indeed can take either of this guys. With his awesome durability + speed + strength + reflex. A single heavy blow could end minato or tobirama's life.

 

[Crossroads]

Good job you're proving my point and contradicting yourself, without Hachibi's infos about the fight he could have never figured that out.

I didn't contradict myself, look up the meaning of the word.

Hachibi's info helped Naruto figure out how to defeat him, someone more logical could have figured this out without the Hachibi's info.

AKA- Shikamaru
AKA- Shikaku
AKA- Minato

 

[Crossroads]

You contradicted yourself, look up the meaning of that word. You said Naruto figured it out by himself then right after you stated that Hachibi helped him, good job.

With not infos it is impossible to simply figure that only his own attacks can damage the 3rd, no matter how intelligent you are, Minato can't beat him except with RDS.

Lol.

Naruto technically did figure it out for himself. Hachibi didn't suggest anything to Naruto whatsover, he didn't tell him

"Maybe you should try this"

He simply told him the fight and Naruto made an assumption, him figuring that out was 100% Naruto.

Let's say I have a gun and I don't know how it works (let's say I have a registered liscense), and I ask my neighbor how to use it properly.

He tells me he doesn't know, but tells me most guns require you hold the barrel back or w/e.

I now use this gun to go out on a killing spree and shoot 50 people.

With your logic, my neighbor is also responsible.

 

[grizzlyshree]

J-man might have a chance on defeating minato if he got to use his SM in the start of the battle. Inother words basic jiraya can't win against minato or tobirama.

Tsunade's speed is quite underrated she's not slow, but comparing her speed to the speedster like minato and tobirama is just to much for her. It's true as long Tsunade has a chakra she can regenerate her body.. But her chakra reserve is not infinite.. They can hit her and she can regenerate, that will takes time. But don't forget that she's be losing lots of chakra on regenerating her wounds. If that's happen, ofcourse she'll become old and if she's become old even konohamaru can stomp her.

Young 4th raikage vs minato by using manga fact.. Minato wins. Tobirama can also do the same with combination effort water jutsu, clones + FTG or edo.

3rd raikage dose indeed can take either of this guys. With his awesome durability + speed + strength + reflex. A single heavy blow could end minato or tobirama's life.

she is slower than itachi,kakshi etc. she isnt dead slow but she is slow in general

 

[Crossroads]

He helped him with a piece of information without which Naruto could have never figured out his weakness therefore he did help him and he didn't figure it out by himself.

This is a logical fallacy because

1. The neighbor had almost no importance since that was an obvious thing which he could have learned by himself or by asking anyone else whereas only Hachibi knew anything about how the fight went.
2. You accused the neighbor for killing people when it has no relevance in this case, you are literally saying that Hachibi is responsible for the 3rd's defeat, actually he is, partially.

No, I'm saying that's what you believe.

I think that in a sense, everyone contributed to finding out the 3rd's weakness that was at the battlefield. Rasenshuriken is one of the most devastating Jutsu's in the Manga.. if that's not hurting someone then what is? I do believe even without the Hachibi's help it would have been figured out, just not as quickly.

 

[H a n]

Team one wins.

 

[Xāvî1]

Re: Jiraiya,Tsunade,3rd raikage,4th raikage> Minato and Tobirama one on one each

Jiraiya,Tsunade,3rd raikage,4th raikage> Minato and Tobirama. wonder how?

Jiraiya- has frog sage mode,rasengan,a jutsu using his hair(forgot its name) and all basic toad techniques

Tsunade-has near-infinite healing abilities,brute strength

3rd raikage-has speed and strength, one of the most endurable shinobis(with Madara,Tobirama,Hashirama and Hiruzen as exceptions).

4th raikage-same as the 3rd raikage with more speed than strength, as endurable as the 3rd raikage


now finally Minato and Tobirama

they have FTG while Tobirama is probably more endurable than all of the above while Minato has speed,reflexes,rasengan,Toad techniques.but how can he kill the above mentioned shinobis? how will Tobiraam kill the above mentioned?

this is 1on1 kind of scenario which means

Minato vs Tsunade Tobirama vs Tsunade
Minatovs 3rdraikage Tobirama vs 3rd raikage
Minato vs jiraiya Tobirama vs Jiraiya
Minato vs 4th raikage Tobirama vs 4th raikage

Restriction:KCM of Minato
this is not my view but it just striked me today. you can put your ideas,opinions etc and if i am wrong you can correct it.

what is the point of this. bull sh!t

 

[Percy Jackson]

she is slower than itachi,kakshi etc. she isnt dead slow but she is slow in general

1)She speed blitze shizunie. (That must be kage lv. Speed)
2)She try's to hit kabuto, but kabuto just keep running away until both of them are tired.. (That shows she's on kabuto's leauge or if not faster.. *IF kabuto were much faster then tsunade, he would att. Her while she's trying to att. Him but In stead he's running away).
3)When both of them were tired, kabuto ate pill that makes him better then ever (or at least as good as ever) and att. Tsunade.. But she could dodge kabuto's att. (Despite being "tired" tsunade vs average kabuto).
4)he's the one of few who able to punch madara..
5)madara said "she's slower then raikage, but stronger then him.. (He compare tsunade's speed with raikage instead of saying "she's stronger then raikage & faster the the mizukage")

Kabuto, kakashi and itachi.. They seems to have compareble speed.