Jiraiya,Tsunade,3rd raikage,4th raikage> Minato and Tobirama

[grizzlyshree]

Jiraiya,Tsunade,3rd raikage,4th raikage> Minato and Tobirama. wonder how?

Jiraiya- has frog sage mode,rasengan,a jutsu using his hair(forgot its name) and all basic toad techniques

Tsunade-has near-infinite healing abilities,brute strength

3rd raikage-has speed and strength, one of the most endurable shinobis(with Madara,Tobirama,Hashirama and Hiruzen as exceptions).

4th raikage-same as the 3rd raikage with more speed than strength, as endurable as the 3rd raikage


now finally Minato and Tobirama

they have FTG while Tobirama is probably more endurable than all of the above while Minato has speed,reflexes,rasengan,Toad techniques.but how can he kill the above mentioned shinobis? how will Tobiraam kill the above mentioned?

this is 1on1 kind of scenario which means

Minato vs Tsunade Tobirama vs Tsunade
Minatovs 3rdraikage Tobirama vs 3rd raikage
Minato vs jiraiya Tobirama vs Jiraiya
Minato vs 4th raikage Tobirama vs 4th raikage

Restriction:KCM of Minato
this is not my view but it just striked me today. you can put your ideas,opinions etc and if i am wrong you can correct it.

 

[FemmeFatale]

They are gonna say Tsunade isn't fast enough.

 

[grizzlyshree]

They are gonna say Tsunade isn't fast enough.

thats true. you cant refute that.Minato is too fast even in base speed.

 

[The Sach]

3 kages+sannin>2 kages so I think they are...

 

[grizzlyshree]

3 kages+sannin>2 kages so I think they are...

no it is not a tag team like you think . i put each of them individually against Minato and individually against Tobirama.

 

[Optimistic]

Sasori,Deidara,Kisame,Sasuke and Kakazu > Shitrama.

 

[YellowFang]

Ultimate FTG'ers duo???
And you think they have a chance to even think of landing a strike???

I lean towards FTG'ers...

 

[Kazehokage]

Minato has proven > 4th raikage just with some luck of killer bee they survived

 

[The Sach]

no it is not a tag team like you think . i put each of them individually against Minato and individually against Tobirama.

If you arenot comparing them as tag teams then Minato and Tobirama can take out all of them,#fact...

 

[grizzlyshree]

Ultimate FTG'ers duo???
And you think they have a chance to even think of landing a strike???

I lean towards FTG'ers...

Minato has proven > 4th raikage just with some luck of killer bee they survived

this 1on 1 scenario it is not a tag team. wat i meant was minato would individually lose to 3rd raikage,tsunade,4th raikage,Jiraiya and the same about tobirama.

 

[grizzlyshree]

If you arenot comparing them as tag teams then Minato and Tobirama can take out all of them,#fact...

how will they kill them or wound them mortally? it is not about speed alone.

 

[GrayParadise]

I kind of agree with 3rd Raikage. But just because he can't be touched doesn't mean he can't be drowned.
Minato can go in KCM and headbutt her to the next dimension.
Jiraiya... nah.
And 4th Raikage? He already admitted inferiority.

 

[grizzlyshree]

I kind of agree with 3rd Raikage. But just because he can't be touched doesn't mean he can't be drowned.
Minato can go in KCM and headbutt her to the next dimension.
Jiraiya... nah.
And 4th Raikage? He already admitted inferiority.

if you havent looked KCM is already restricted.

 

[Crossroads]

Jiraiya, Tsunade, 3rd and 4th Raikage take this extremely high diff.

Honestly if they didn't have Ma and Pa on their side it would be high diff on Tobirama and Minato's part.

 

[The Sach]

how will they kill them or wound them mortally? it is not about speed alone.

1.4th raikage could have been dead if Bee couldn't have been there.
2. Jiraiya speed<<Tobirama he will use Hiraishingiri and then gg Jiraiya,
Sage mode will be countered by Minato using FTG,rasengan variations and last but not the least sealing techs.
3. Tsunade...Well do I need to explain??
4. 3rd Raikage already explained by GrayParadise.

 

[Optimistic]

if you havent looked KCM is already restricted.

KCM isn't accessible to alive Minato anyway so i don't understand where this alive KCM bs is coming from.

 

[Vandenreich]

Minato and Tobidaddies win.
You didn't restrict edo tensei.
And Minato doesn't need KCM tbh...

 

[grizzlyshree]

1.4th raikage could have been dead if Bee couldn't have been there.
2. Jiraiya speed<<Tobirama he will use Hiraishingiri and then gg Jiraiya,
Sage mode will be countered by Minato using FTG,rasengan variations and last but not the least sealing techs.
3. Tsunade...Well do I need to explain??
4. 3rd Raikage already explained by GrayParadise.

1.but how can 4th raikage be killed just by rasengan?
2.Hiraishingiri is ok but cant Jiraiya destroy it in sage mode

3.ya explain i just need to get it in my imagination

4.he tanked even rasenshurikken without difficulty

 

[grizzlyshree]

KCM isn't accessible to alive Minato anyway so i don't understand where this alive KCM bs is coming from.

it is accesible. just because he didnt use it when he was alive doesnt mean that he cant use .i just restricted it to bring out the minato prior to his fight with Obito.

 

[The Sach]

1.but how can 4th raikage be killed just by rasengan?
2.Hiraishingiri is ok but cant Jiraiya destroy it in sage mode

3.ya explain i just need to get it in my imagination

4.he tanked even rasenshurikken without difficulty

1. Simple Minato will mark him and again he will use it from point blank range before he activates lightning armor, so rasengan destroys him, becasue Minato is more clever than Raikage.
2. No he can't Jiraiya sage mode<<Naruto sage mode, as Jiraiya need to remain still to gain nature energy and Minato won't let him do so(both have summon summon of no use).
3. Tsunade is only strength not speed,she can't keep up with Tobirama or Minato, and she can't hit them as they are two fast, again FTG..
4. Minato is clever enough to point out his weakness and Tobirama must have fought him so he knows his powers, so once they hit at the weak point, game over.
Ya I need some piece of cake after typing this...