Jiraiya, Itachi, and Orochimaru

[Draphsin]

Deva path clearly said that if Jirayia would of known about the connected vision and the other paths, he would of been dead. Tell me how a sick Itachi even has a chance against deva path

How do you know that Itachi with the smae info couldnt do the exact same thing??

 

[Trollasaur]

How do you know that Itachi with the smae info couldnt do the exact same thing??

That doesn't work I don't have the burden of proof, thats like saying how do you not know that Minato can't summon dicks.

 

[Draphsin]

That doesn't work I don't have the burden of proof, thats like saying how do you not know that Minato can't summon dicks.

Prove that Itachi would lose to the 6P0P minus Deva path then?

 

[Avinash012]

Jiraya can't mould chakra due to tsunade's drog while fighting Oro without hands...............
Jiraya is stronger than Itachi,Itachi never lied abt opnt's strength he said that Gai stomps Kisame ,and if his true intention is not to fight leaf ninja y did he fought Kakashi and crew......and Kisame knw that Itachi defeated Orochimaru and after that he left the akatsuki and still both of them considered Jiraya is Strong.............
Jiraya is holdng back in every fight with Orochimaru ,his true intention is to bring Oro back ,not to hurt him or to kill him,,,,,,
Itachi able to beat Oro easily bcoz Oro think Itachi is a fodder com to him in his first fight and get stomped by Itachi,,,
and he let Itachi cut him with totsuka bcoz he thought it can't hurt him,,and b4 realizing wat actually happend he sealed by Itachi,,,otherwise Itachi can't win Oro that easily..................

 

[Trollasaur]

Prove that Itachi would lose to the 6P0P minus Deva path then?

Prove to me he would win, stop avoiding the question.

 

[blackstar9]

Jiraya can't mould chakra due to tsunade's drog while fighting Oro without hands...............
Jiraya is stronger than Itachi,Itachi never lied abt opnt's strength he said that Gai stomps Kisame ,and if his true intention is not to fight leaf ninja y did he fought Kakashi and crew......and Kisame knw that Itachi defeated Orochimaru and after that he left the village and still both of them considered Jiraya is Strong.............
Jiraya is holdng back in every fight with Orochimaru ,his true intention is to bring Oro back ,not to hurt him or to kill him,,,,,,
Itachi able to beat Oro easily bcoz Oro think Itachi is a fodder com to him in his first fight and get stomped by Itachi,,,
and he let Itachi cut him with totsuka bcoz he thought it can't hurt him,,and b4 realizing wat actually happend he sealed by Itachi,,,otherwise Itachi can't win Oro that easily..................

everytime he beat oro he did it pretty easily

 

[AirWind]

Itachi was a konohan spy by nature, its a common sense if he still had some respect left for jiraiya, and dislike orochimaru as he's a bad guy.

 

[Ababeel]

It's just that Jman is stronger than Itach & Kismae (as they both admitted it)
and itachi is stronger than oro (as Oro said)
Jman will lose against Oro as it did happen. (perhaps without SM?)

 

[ItachiStillSolos]

What do the paths of pein have to do with anything he was talking about?

Jiraiya didnt even go up against deva path (peins strongest ability by far), so why are you even bringing them up.........?



So what you're saying is hiruzen is stronger than Itachi?

& dont give me that a>b>c logic crap, hiruzen was on his deathbed, 10 years younger & he would've killed oro, yet he still managed to seal those useless controlled edos.

If oro programed the edos then they become fodders, if oro gives them their personality then hashi kills him.

KCM Minato could beat Itachi.

 

[Draphsin]

Prove to me he would win, stop avoiding the question.

Who said I was avoiding the question? lmao, Itachi/Jiraiya's databook stats are both 35.5. Tell me why Itachi would lose when kishi puts a sick Itachi on equal footing with jiraiya?

KCM Minato could beat Itachi.

You mean an edo KCM minato? highly unlikely, what has minato done with KCM that puts him anywhere higher on a list? Speed? Itachi can keep up with KCM. Bijuudama's? Prove that minato can even use them without training.

 

[Trollasaur]

Who said I was avoiding the question? lmao, Itachi/Jiraiya's databook stats are both 35.5. Tell me why Itachi would lose when kishi puts a sick Itachi on equal footing with jiraiya?

Databook also says Sasuke has god like speed :/, also stats don't matter here Itachi might be able to beat J Man but Itachi might not be able to bet Pain it's just a bad matchup

 

[Ababeel]

Who said I was avoiding the question? lmao, Itachi/Jiraiya's databook stats are both 35.5. Tell me why Itachi would lose when kishi puts a sick Itachi on equal footing with jiraiya?

Itachi admitted that he (and Kisame) are weaker than Jman, and he was not sick in part 1.
Also, the DB is about the characters in their Base, so that's Jman's state without SM.

 

[Avinash012]

Prove that Itachi would lose to the 6P0P minus Deva path then?

Itachi can't win against 6 paths ,,I strongly belive that he can manage to kill 5 of them but he can't kill Tedndo....!

 

[Draphsin]

It's just that Jman is stronger than Itach & Kismae (as they both admitted it)

Wrong, Jiraiya is not stronger than Itachi/kisame, going by that statement makes no sense. Itachi was a double agent, he wouldnt start a battle between one of the legendary sannin when they would 100% stomp & take naruto (thereby ending the series....).

Itachi can't win against 6 paths ,,I strongly belive that he can manage to kill 5 of them but he can't kill Tedndo....!

Thats what I'm saying, deva would be his end though

 

[Ababeel]

Wrong, Jiraiya is not stronger than Itachi/kisame, going by that statement makes no sense. Itachi was a double agent, he wouldnt start a battle between one of the legendary sannin when they would 100% stomp & take naruto (thereby ending the series....).

double agent or no that does not mean anything. He tried to kill Kakashi & Kurnai so why not Jman?
Also, Kismae was not double agent and he said that they are both nothing.

- lol, clearly Itachi and Kismae disagree with that. and that what does matter.

 

[Draphsin]

Databook also says Sasuke has god like speed :/, also stats don't matter here Itachi might be able to beat J Man but Itachi might not be able to bet Pain it's just a bad matchup

So what if it says sasuke has god-like speed? are those stats??? Why are you trying to disprove official stats with databook hyperbole?

Okay....Then what's your point? Because im saying that Itachi>Jiraiya, but you brought pein into this.....

Itachi admitted that he (and Kisame) are weaker than Jman, and he was not sick in part 1.
Also, the DB is about the characters in their Base, so that's Jman's state without SM.

No he didnt....explained why Itachi said that & believeing it is not a smart move

Prove that Itachi wasnt sick in part 1

& Susanoo is base??

 

[Trollasaur]

So what if it says sasuke has god-like speed? are those stats??? Why are you trying to disprove official stats with databook hyperbole?

Okay....Then what's your point? Because im saying that Itachi>Jiraiya, but you brought pein into this.....



No he didnt....explained why Itachi said that & believeing it is not a smart move

Prove that Itachi wasnt sick in part 1

& Susanoo is base??

Databooks aren't acuarate Sasuke clearly doesn't have God like speed..
Also IDK what I was thinking on the second part I kinda pulled it out of my ass.
But seriously go ahead I made this about Pain vs Itachi, how does Itachi beat Pain?

 

[Avinash012]

Who said I was avoiding the question? lmao, Itachi/Jiraiya's databook stats are both 35.5. Tell me why Itachi would lose when kishi puts a sick Itachi on equal footing with jiraiya?



You mean an edo KCM minato? highly unlikely, what has minato done with KCM that puts him anywhere higher on a list? Speed? Itachi can keep up with KCM. Bijuudama's? Prove that minato can even use them without training.

We knw every thing abt Itachi and the extent of Uchiha's powers,we still have a ton of thing to knw abt Minato ,we barly knw 4-5 jutsu of MInato and still put him on par with strongest ppl of all time.....!
Naruto is compltly a fodder in his baseform and he became on of the strongest ninja as wel as one of the fastest ninja after getng kcm and Minato is stronger than KCM Naruto in his base form or atleast as stronge as KCM Naruto and imagin how stronge some one like him wil become after getng that chakra...........!
he dnt need training since he is the master of chakra control..............

 

[Draphsin]

double agent or no that does not mean anything. He tried to kill Kakashi & Kurnai so why not Jman?

Wrong, he didnt try to kill anybody, saying that he did is going against kishi's entire manga.

Also, Kismae was not double agent and he said that they are both nothing.

Show me the scan, because from what I saw kisame said that jiraiya would lose to Itachi, lmao

- lol, clearly Itachi and Kismae disagree with that. and that what does matter.

Wrong again my friend, I guess ill do the goddamn digging for you

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[Avinash012]

everytime he beat oro he did it pretty easily

Yes am sayng the exact same thing ,,,Itachi can't win that easily if Oro didn't let his guard down..........