Jiraiya, Itachi, and Orochimaru

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Something has always troubled me about these three. Itachi is afraid of Jiraiya, Jiraiya got beaten up pretty badly by Orochimaru, yet Orochimaru was easily bested by Itachi. How does that work?

We saw Jiraiya beat Itachi + Kisame after Itachi beat up Sasuke. Later, Orochimaru fights Jiraiya one-on-one and gets hurt pretty badly. And of course, we saw what happened when Orochimaru tried to take Itachi's body in Ataksuki.

So how do you explain it? Was Itachi holding back when he fought Jiraiya? Was Jiraiya holding back when he fought Orochimaru?
 

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Have you read anything past the Hidan and Kakazu arc?
 

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Oro's arms were sealed tho.
 

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just a>b and b>c doesn't necessarily mean a>c xd different opponents have different weaknesses which might hurt them against an oppent. for example, kisame will pretty much win most fights that are ninjutsu based but genjutsu (itachi) or taijutsu (gai) will destroy him xd plus itachi was just being careful and jiraiya was drugged by tsunade that time
 
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i think jiraiya was holding back against orochimaru and that itachi was also holding back against jiraiya.
 

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Jiraiya was drugged in that fight by tsunade . Tsunade was basically retired . Oro didnt have his arms . No arms , no sage mode, no byakugo . Id hardly say anybody went all out in that fight
 

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Itachi>Jiraiya :|

A>B>C logic doesn't work when comparing Naruto characters.
 

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That's ABC logic and that was part one
A lot of things have been cleared up
 

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Jiraiya is said to be stronger than Itachi, Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than himself, and yet Jiraiya had a tough time with Oro in the past. I dig what you're saying, but that's Kishi for you.
 

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Itachi is not afraid of jiraiya
 

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Jiraiya is said to be stronger than Itachi, Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than himself, and yet Jiraiya had a tough time with Oro in the past. I dig what you're saying, but that's Kishi for you.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one who thought this was weird.
 

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Jiraiya is said to be stronger than Itachi, Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than himself, and yet Jiraiya had a tough time with Oro in the past. I dig what you're saying, but that's Kishi for you.

And that's the inconsistencies with part 1 vs part 2
 

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Jiraiya is said to be stronger than Itachi, Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than himself, and yet Jiraiya had a tough time with Oro in the past. I dig what you're saying, but that's Kishi for you.

Jiraiya is not stronger than Itachi....
 

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Jiraiya is said to be stronger than Itachi, Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than himself, and yet Jiraiya had a tough time with Oro in the past. I dig what you're saying, but that's Kishi for you.

No that's people that follow ABC logic for you.

Not to mention Itachi was never afraid of Jiraiya, he just never intended to fight Jiraiya since he wasn't really evil.
 
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