Jiraiya could have easily won the Pain fight

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If j-man had the intel naruto had during the pain fight, jiraya would have shitted on all 6 pains Lol
 

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Too bad J-man had to die for that info to get obtained though.

Also Deva path would have to be totally out of commission, and they would have to fight with the intent to capture... :|
 

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Also Deva path would have to be totally out of commission, and they would have to fight with the intent to capture... :|

True,I think if given the circumstances Naruto had, Jiraiya would've done much better considering he knew Nagato well.
 

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Nah; he couldn't have. As soon as Deva became a problem, it was a wrap.

When Nagato says if he knew their secret, Jiraiya would have beaten relates to the fact of finding the real Nagato somewhere and defeating him personally.
 

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Nah; he couldn't have. As soon as Deva became a problem, it was a wrap.

When Nagato says if he knew their secret, Jiraiya would have beaten relates to the fact of finding the real Nagato somewhere and defeating him personally.

This is the correct answer. Pain defeats any character presented in the manga up until that point 1v1 (except Tobi imo.)
 

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Nah; he couldn't have. As soon as Deva became a problem, it was a wrap.

When Nagato says if he knew their secret, Jiraiya would have beaten relates to the fact of finding the real Nagato somewhere and defeating him personally.

Jiraiya was handling the Pains pretty well until one of them did a sneak attack.Deva would be a problem but considering the area they were fighting in I doubt he would be able to use Shinra Tensei too much.
 

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Shinra Tensei should theoretically take a crap on sound genjutsu, because fuuton can. That is if he does it fast enough. Keep in mind Deva wasn't there when Frog Song happened.
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Shinra Tensei should theoretically take a crap on sound genjutsu, because fuuton can. That is if he does it fast enough. Keep in mind Deva wasn't there when Frog Song happened.
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If Jman attacks all 6 of them at the same time and pain having no intel on it... well i guess you know the outcome Lol
 

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Actually not, defeated by plot means for the benefits and progress of the story since jiraya could have won if given him the right circumstances

But every dead person died for the benefit and progress of the story, not just jiraiya
 

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no. pain needs to hear the entire song for it to work. besides, he was missing an arm.
 

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Nah, pain hasnt even used ST or CT on him U_U
Just lame hype goodbye statement, same as Obito about itachi U_U
 

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I doubt but maybe with intel and element of surprise Jirayia would have chance.

Anyway Jirayia has no chance against Prime Healthy Nagato(as Edo Nagato but without regeneration)
 
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