Jinton VS samehada

[Mad Titan Thanos]

I think it would just be destroyed. I know it eats chakra but I don't think it absorbs jutsu

so are we going to ignore that samehada absorbed raiton from Killer bee and katon from Itachi. Yes it can and already did absorb jutsu

 

[Curse Mark]

Once it's formed its no longer just chakra. That's like saying Tobiramas Suiton Blade is a pure blade of chakra.

Exactly, it's a KT.

 

[BlacLord™]

Depends on the individual situation.

Either one can rid the other, it's down the user's speed of atomizing or absorbing. In short, if Kisame starts absorbing the chakra then Jinton is over, but if Onoki completes the dismantling before he does, then Samehada is dust.

Either way, Jinton has the upper hand because it only takes a moment to particulate. But Onoki likes to jabber on, giving even Obito time to Kamui Sasuke away.

 

[Curse Mark]

Depends on the individual situation.

Either one can rid the other, it's down the user's speed of atomizing or absorbing. In short, if Kisame starts absorbing the chakra then Jinton is over, but if Onoki completes the dismantling before he does, then Samehada is dust.

Either way, Jinton has the upper hand because it only takes a moment to particulate. But Onoki likes to jabber on, giving even Obito time to Kamui Sasuke away.

Again, that's a different form of jinton. Cylindrical vaporizes anything it comes into contact with, like FTW.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Once it's formed its no longer just chakra. That's like saying Tobiramas Suiton Blade is a pure blade of chakra.

*Which utilizes chakra to atomize objects*
Samehada>whatever chakra based attacks, unless you have an attack with the same amount of chakra as Bee's v2 cloak

 

[Curse Mark]

*Which utilizes chakra to atomize objects*
Samehada>whatever chakra based attacks, unless you have an attack with the same amount of chakra as Bee's v2 cloak

If samehada touches it, it gets vaporized.

 

[LuckyMan]

*Which utilizes chakra to atomize objects*
Samehada>whatever chakra based attacks, unless you have an attack with the same amount of chakra as Bee's v2 cloak

Chakra amount is only a sub-factor. It being able to survive said attack is the main factor. The weapon still got a hole put in it before it absorbed Bee's chakra. It also got burned before it absorbed Itachis chakra. It would eat Jinton only if it could survive coming in contact with it like it did those 2, but it can't tank atomization if fire or blunt force damages it that easily.

For example, a gudodama erases whatever it touches like Jinton albeit its more advanced. By your logic, if Naruto formed a Gudodama but it contained less chakra than Bee's V2 Cloak, Samehada would eat it if it came in contact with it. I think the Gudodama would still expand normally and erase the sword because Samehada can't survive coming in contact with that.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Draegod is right. That scan of Samehada absorbing chakra off bee's blade it irrelevant because it will never get to absorb Jinton in time at least not before Samehada is hit.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Chakra amount is only a sub-factor. It being able to survive said attack is the main factor. The weapon still got a hole put in it before it absorbed Bee's chakra. It also got burned before it absorbed Itachis chakra. It would eat Jinton only if it could survive coming in contact with it like it did those 2, but it can't tank atomization if fire or blunt force damages it that easily.

Are you serious or are you deliberately denying manga facts?
Manga fact #1: Samehada was not burned when it absorbed Katon

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You cannot show me a scan of Samehada being hurt by Katon without going into Fanficville. The only think you can say is Samehada not liking the "nature" of katon's chakra, as Samehada is an amphibian creature.

Manga fact #2: Samehada only was damaged because of physical interaction
The only reason Bee could hurt Samehada with his lariat was the force behind it. V2 gave a massive speed boost to B, which in turn increased his forcefulness. As we've seen, Samehada absorbed Bee's chakra, but couldn't absorb Bee's boost in physical strength. And good thing is that Jinton doesn't deal blunt damage, and you're suggesting in the bold.

For example, a gudodama erases whatever it touches like Jinton albeit its more advanced. By your logic, if Naruto formed a Gudodama but it contained less chakra than Bee's V2 Cloak, Samehada would eat it if it came in contact with it. I think the Gudodama would still expand normally and erase the sword because Samehada can't survive coming in contact with that.

The balls are a different case as we don't know if whether or not they can be absorbed. As far as we know they can only be destroyed.

 

[Curse Mark]

Are you serious or are you deliberately denying manga facts?
Manga fact #1: Samehada was not burned when it absorbed Katon

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You cannot show me a scan of Samehada being hurt by Katon without going into Fanficville. The only think you can say is Samehada not liking the "nature" of katon's chakra, as Samehada is an amphibian creature.

Manga fact #2: Samehada only was damaged because of physical interaction
The only reason Bee could hurt Samehada with his lariat was the force behind it. V2 gave a massive speed boost to B, which in turn increased his forcefulness. As we've seen, Samehada absorbed Bee's chakra, but couldn't absorb Bee's boost in physical strength. And good thing is that Jinton doesn't deal blunt damage, and you're suggesting in the bold.

The balls are a different case as we don't know if whether or not they can be absorbed. As far as we know they can only be destroyed.

Replace the forcefullness of V2 that damaged the sword with the vaporization that will occur when it touches the sword

 

[Lord Tywin]

Replace the forcefullness of V2 that damaged the sword with the vaporization that will occur when it touches the sword

:lol dude the force behind Bee's attack and jinton are two different things

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Only way Jinton ever hits Samehada is if it travels at around or above V2 Bee's running speed and contains more then 6 tails of bijuu chakra.

 

[KISSame]

The only way I could think of samehada surviving is if it can eat the chakra that forms the shape of the jinton if it can eat that shouldn't it avoid being atomised? Don't know if this would work really sounds a bit iffy but maybe.

 

[Beans2]

That makes no sense unless you're going to prove Sasuke was hit by Jinton then Obito came and warped he and Sasuke so fast the technique had literally no time to affect either of them.

But I know that's not what happened anyway. When Onoki shoots the shape around his target, they don't instantly get atomized, the 3D structure is to trap his target, then he ignites it to atomize them. Obito saved Sasuke when it lit up and got bright where no one could see them, but before the atomization took effect.

The Last showed a good example of this.

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In this case Shark Skin will still be destroyed because Onoki can ignite the inside of the cylinder as its traveling (which is what sweeping Jinton is) like he did on Flower Tree World. The inside of the cylindrical beam is already ignited and he shoots/swings it, effectively atomizing what it touches almost instantly.

The bolded is the lag time I'm referring to. Obito rescued Sasuke after it got lit up and bright but before it could disintegrate them meaning Samehada can still absorb it during the same window of time that Obito took advantage of.

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As for the FTW feat, just because Onoki swung it around doesn't mean it atomized what it touched instantly. It needs a split second to take effect.

So I don't really see why Samehada can't absorb Jinton.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Draegod, you can dislike my post all you want. I supplied irrefutable concrete manga fact on how Samehada works - which you elect to disregard time after time. Instead of repeatedly butchering the manga on the particular topic, I challenge you to attempt at disproving me.

 

[Draegod]

Draegod, you can dislike my post all you want. I supplied irrefutable concrete manga fact on how Samehada works - which you elect to disregard time after time. Instead of repeatedly butchering the manga on the particular topic, I challenge you to attempt at disproving me.

Bro don't tell me you're like Beans with the Like and Dislike now? lol Ima ignor the mentioning of the Like/Dislike of anyones post you just brought up.

You like others didnt get what I was saying and chose to play Dumb bro. Even in the scan you showed The lightning was being Draw into Samahada was it Not? Or did the Lightning Go into an invisible force field Like Petra path? The only difference between Basic Lightning chakra and KKT is the KKT is designed to erase anything it touches or atleast most things it touches. Madara with SUsanoo and Petra got instantly Vaporized around Madara with his body being the only thing standing. Indicating how instant and how much time you would need to absorb Jinton Beam (clone to instant). And Sama isn't instant nor close to instant!

Sama cannot absorb an entire beam faster then the beam can desintergrate the sword the moment it it makes contact.

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Jinton Crossed All of this:

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Instantly to rid the entire field of Flowers! DO you not see

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r and all around the Battle ground? Literally

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Sama absorbs slow and comes in contact with the Chakra thus ending him since he lack the speed of absorption like petra and the chakra gets absorb into the scales unlike petra which has a Forcefield to help absorb to the point he can turn it on instanly and allow a certain part of his body get blown off but the rest be preotected.

 

[Curse Mark]

Drae putting in work

 

[KISSame]

Bro don't tell me you're like Beans with the Like and Dislike now? lol Ima ignor the mentioning of the Like/Dislike of anyones post you just brought up.

You like others didnt get what I was saying and chose to play Dumb bro. Even in the scan you showed The lightning was being Draw into Samahada was it Not? Or did the Lightning Go into an invisible force field Like Petra path? The only difference between Basic Lightning chakra and KKT is the KKT is designed to erase anything it touches or atleast most things it touches. Madara with SUsanoo and Petra got instantly Vaporized around Madara with his body being the only thing standing. Indicating how instant and how much time you would need to absorb Jinton Beam (clone to instant). And Sama isn't instant nor close to instant!

Sama cannot absorb an entire beam faster then the beam can desintergrate the sword the moment it it makes contact.

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Jinton Crossed All of this:

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Instantly to rid the entire field of Flowers! DO you not see

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r and all around the Battle ground? Literally

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Sama absorbs slow and comes in contact with the Chakra thus ending him since he lack the speed of absorption like petra and the chakra gets absorb into the scales unlike petra which has a Forcefield to help absorb to the point he can turn it on instanly and allow a certain part of his body get blown off but the rest be preotected.

Does samehada need to absorb the entire beam or just the part that comes into contact with it? Imo it should be pretty quick bees cloak was gone in a snap as I recall.

 

[Curse Mark]

Does samehada need to absorb the entire beam or just the part that comes into contact with it? Imo it should be pretty quick bees cloak was gone in a snap as I recall.

Drae showed in the very thing you quoted samehada absorbing V2. Not faster than jinton destroys.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Only way Jinton ever hits Samehada is if it travels at around or above V2 Bee's running speed and contains more then 6 tails of bijuu chakra.

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Jinton travels much faster than v2 bee since it did this nearly instantly[

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]. L0l as much chakra as v2 cloak bee? Itachi Katon burned Samehada and it doesn't have anywhere as near as much chakra as v2 bee so that claim was pointless and irrelevant.